campcrafter

I just found this at the ClassB.com site

Troop WISE Method of Building a Boy Run Troop

http://www.classb.com/resources/wise/twise1_1.pdf

Haven't really had chance to read but wondering if anyone else had read it or used it.

CC

Avid

One of the things I try to do in situations where I think something is wrong is to see if it is me or my perspective that is wrong first. I don't always succeed and don't always accept the answer. In this instance I know it isn't just me because of the calls I have ahd from other parents. ( They still call me since I was their boy's leader for so long.)

So next week at the "leader's meeting" another dad who is very dissatisified and I will attend and make our views known.

I promise here that I will not lose my cool and will remember points 3, 4, 5, 6, 8 and 10 (I am sometimes intimidated easily by others and find it hard to express myself) of the Scout Law.

Yes I must remember ( and my wife reminds me) that it is my son's choice and I am in it for him.

Thanks, Avid, for your counsel.

cc

ScoutingAgain

Yep you are right. The best camp out I ever had with these boys was our last Webelos camp.

We went to a YMCA camp that had a low ropes course, zip line, stream to wade in, and fishing pond. We also had the boys involved in cooking, prep and clean-up. Amazing too about that campout was the boys were no longer all gathered around the fire at night poking it with sticks and throwing stuff in to see what would burn. Some were checking out stars and constellations, some were playing cards, some were playing flashlight tag. It will always hold special memory. I was especially proud how far they had come since Tigers. I don't want them "ruined" by this troop.

Right now I think its the meetings that are turning him off. As I said he likes structure and the meetings are anything but.

cc

SR540Beaver

I'm going to be rude and reply before the Big E.

BSA Crack - that's good!

Why I think boys get excited about OA

1. Mystery

2. Eliteness

3. Ceremony

4. Indian Lore

5. It is more boy led usually and usually older boys 14+

6. Something new

Seton's Woodcraft Indians precursor to Scouting had much of this also

including that he was dealing with older boys. Remember the joining age for BSA at first was 12 which at times I think wasn't a bad thing.

cc

(This message has been edited by campcrafter)

Thanks for the replies.. Great moral support on this forum.

Anne you are wise woman and obviously a good SM.

We just crossed over to Boy Scouts in Feb.

The boys have been on one Weekend outing to the Cosmoshpere. Went really well boys all had a great time.

Have had 1/2 dozen meetings. Mostly Chaos even though this is an established Troop. It is adult led - boys "expected" to get Eagle ( an Eagle mill in opinion) Older boys (>15) not around much only a few 3 or 4 other older boys (13-15) and our 10 new boys (11 yo)

They supposedly made up a new scout patrol of these boys but other than elcting PL and picking a name - no other patrol activity.

THE CAMPOUT - Last weekend was the first Troop camp out we have been on. Not much diffrent than the Cub Scout camps we did the past five years except fewer parents. The adults cooked and ran the program ( we did get some Tenderfoot requirements done). But some of the boys were quite dissapointed they didn't get to cook. The boys overall had fun but they are not new to camping. We went camping at least twice a year as Cubs since Tigers.

I am registered and ASM (was DL, CC, CM and WDL) but have just stood aside and observed, though I did tell the SM how I and some of the other new parents felt.

My son always has a good time but has not been very impressed with the meetings. ( He likes structure).

I did talk with another dad last nite who also talked with one of the veteran adult leaders about the situation. We will further present our views at the "leaders meeting" next week. ( They don't have a PLC - they have "leaders meetings" were the adults do the planning.)

I have read enough on this forum to know what needs to be done in the troop ( Which by the way I sorta of knew it was this way going in - just not how bad it was. We chose the troop because it is at our church and most of the boys go to school together.)

I just want my son to have a good experience. But it really is making by stomach hurt that he might not want to be a Scout!

Thanks for listening.

CC

As a boy I lived for Scouting and as an adult I really eat it up too.

My boy while he enjoys it isn't as ate up with as I was/am.

I fear he will want to quit and my selfish side wants him to stay in not only cause I enjoy it but for the growth he will get out of it.

Anyone else have this situation.

YIS,

CC

OK why am I double posting?

I was only kidding about trying to get my numbers back up.

(unless there is a patch involved)

CC

Yeah, but I decided that while I was at it I would get a more "scouty" handle.

YIS,

Schizo, er, I mean ronvo - no I mean Campcrafter!

Yeah, but I decided that while I was at it I would get a more "scouty" handle.

YIS,

Schizo, er, I mean ronvo - no I mean Campcrafter!

Thanks Trev - the bummer is I have to start over on my post count to become a Senior Member again!

CC

Thanks Trev - the bummer is I have to start over on my post count to become a Senior Member again!

CC

Hi all - ronvo here

I have changed my email address and so made a new profile and will now be known as campcrafter.

Didn't want to deceive anyone:)

YIS,

campcrafter aka CC aka ronvo