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  1. 16 hours ago, MYCVAStory said:

    Survivors need to be cautioned that at some point they'll learn what their award is "valued" but the actual amount received will be a function of the total amount of money the Trust can generate....minus expenses. 

    As well as the number of claims left standing after the JLSS-mandated investigation, ferreting and vetting. 

  2. 17 hours ago, fred8033 said:

    “Forward, yes" ... I don't understand.  Are you saying the post-bankruptcy BSA would pay into the bankruptcy trust for abuse that happened after the bankruptcy? 

    Abuse that occurs after emergence (and Phoenix rising) is new liability with no release protection from the bankruptcy. Also, “claim values” will be referenced in future cases, which is one of the reasons insurers hate that matrix. 

  3. 12 minutes ago, MYCVAStory said:

    Why didn't you send them out into a meeting room, or tell them to hammer it out overnight, and finalize it?" 

    Ja. What was the longest hearing we've had to date? 7PM ET or so? Why did BSA proposed Wed? We had multiple hours today AND the mediation parties previously fell all over themselves (and each) lauding their their herculean endurance skills. I'm sure we recall with  deep reverence when they labored through the night while [*gasp*] the Super Bowl was being played. I'm shocked beyond recovery. Someone please bring me my fan and spirits of ammonia. Right quick...

  4. By way of court color commentary, we've already had three recesses. One was because the judge had no Zoom feed. Another because we were exceeding online capacity. People were being dropped and/or denied access. Mid-morning, the number of Zoom attendees capped out the 1000 mark and they had to upgrade. The third recess was due to the attorney then appearing and speaking had a hiccup attack. To this humble reporter, the poor fella seemed on the verge of being sick. 

    This post is intended as a substantive process report for those unable to attend this important proceeding.  

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  5. On 7/29/2022 at 1:43 PM, johnsch322 said:

    At Vandenburg I also saw the silos and yes that was kind of cool. But I was also raped there by two airmen (BSA Volunteers) on base property.  Guess which situation had the most impact on my life?

    My SM abuser was in the Army National Guard. He borrowed vehicle for our campouts. He took me there many times...

  6. 18 minutes ago, Eagle1993 said:

    She doesn't trust the STAC or law firms with respect to vetting claims.  She brought up how lawyers backpaddled supporting claims with their signature.  So, she doesn't want anyone with self interest in charge of the process any more.  It was a great move for non fraudulent claimants.  

    "Hello. Um, yeah. This is ___________ your non-CSA expert non-tort and non-bankruptcy lawyer who hired an aggregator and call center to fetch me some BSA claimants. Uh huh. Yes. I know you haven't heard from me since the case was filed, but I was busy with 25 slip and falls, a ton of evictions, 6 domestic disputes and a couple hundred DUIs. So, about that claim of yours. It's taken a really really really long time and I know it's been very rough. In light of the judge's ruling on Friday and some complicated matters she's addressed, my partner and I have spent two minutes thinking about your case and come to an important recommendation. As of this moment, we are strongly recommending you opt for the $3500 expedited payment. Yes. I know what the call center intake person told you. Uh huh. Uh huh. Yup. Yup. Yup. Anyway, about that wonderfully attractive and utterly sensible $3500 speedy pay option..."

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  7. 47 minutes ago, RememberSchiff said:

    Silverstein also ruled that a committee of abuse claimants attorneys who would advise the trustee overseeing the victims compensation fund will have no consent or veto rights over procedures developed by the trustee, a retired federal judge, to ferret out fraudulent claims.

    Yeah, another powerless advisory committee. Reminds me of ...

    Perhaps, but this is a matter of her knowing foxes aren’t good guards for henhouses. (I guess ferrets are fine.) Judge Houser is going to be vetting claims and sniffing out fraud, with the hammer of penalties and prosecution. JLSS wants no self interested parties - or those with something to hide - to obstruct the process from tip to tail. The STAC has plenty of advisory and oversight influence in other matters, just not here. JLSS is seeing to that. Very wise stroke of an angry pen.

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  8. I need to go back, so don't hold me to this. A few happy notables on the approval side:

    "Many survivors have been waiting for thirty, forty or even fifty years to tell their stories and receive a meaningful recovery. This plan makes that happen." (Page 158)
     
    "While I understand objectors' strongly held view that they are better off individually if left to their own litigation, this is a mass tort case. There are 82,209 claimants whose views need to be considered, and ... I consider 85% to be overwhelming acceptance." (Page 164)
     
    "This is an extraordinary case crying out for extraordinary solutions.... The combination of monetary and non-monetary aspects of the plan are fair to the holders of abuse claims." (Page 168)

     

  9. 23 minutes ago, Eagle1993 said:

    From my brief review, it is not an approval; however, not a full rejection.

    I concur. It is a very circuitous route for having spent such and enormous amount of time getting to a destination which location is in no way crystal clear. Mud comes to mind. Enjoy. As I go back with a flashlight and tweezer, I will pine for Eagle1993's anticipated outstanding Cliff Notes. Reader's digest version would be totally sufficient, in the alternative. Buckle up people. It's gonna be a bumpy ride, me thinks.

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