ThenNow

45 minutes ago, MYCVAStory said:

Hauser

Judge Barbara "Houser" in case anyone is researching.

3 hours ago, RandomScouter said:

Are you serious?  (Given the tone of many of your posts, I think it is a legitimate question. 😉)

It's over 20 pages long, and not just that--it's over 20 pages of legalese.

mama mia!

Definitely not serious. Again, where is that tongue in cheek emoji when you need it?  

4 hours ago, Eagle1993 said:

Omni FRAUD?!?

A former employee of Omni is alleging they are charging high fees for lower wage workers.  $16 - $20/hour workers are being charged at $80 - $125/hr to BSA.

Also claiming they hired 30 temporary workers who did nothing and they charged BSA.

Also claims knowledge that the ballot count is incorrect, and COO lied to court.

Finally, also claims they did the same in other cases, including USA Gymnastics

4 hours ago, fred8033 said:

This sounds more like a disgruntled employee.  

Hm. I wonder if this person was "encouraged" to write this letter. I am not prone to conspiracy theory, but this would add flavor to the screenplay.

Was going to post about the Osprey we saw last season down in GA. Lo and behold. Check out the article. 

https://thebrunswicknews.com/news/local_news/jekyll-replaces-osprey-platform-ahead-of-nesting-season/article_71fea0a3-d5b0-5174-855f-a6c14e98bc06.html

17 hours ago, yknot said:

I came out to piles of feathers exploded all over the yard and not one bird left. Same thing happened to my neighbor. The electric fence kept the bear, fox, opossum and coyotes out but not the Cooper's hawks which we have in abundance. 

Sorry to hear it. Sound like you've had a very diverse collection of pets.  When we lived more north, the Cooper's were my favorite to watch, but by far the most aggressive and agile. We had one in the Chicago area that would crash straight into an evergreen shrub, talons extended and snatch a songbird. Watched it 'dance' in the driveway taking off with a very red Cardinal one day. Prior to last summer, I don't recall any hits our Bluebirds in the back of this house, but I had poofs of Blue mid-summer. I'm now starting to suspect the Sharp-shinned. Has anyone seen a Barred Owl defend its (her) nest? 

I realize I’ve asked this before, but thought I would try the old material in front of a new audience. By any wild chance might someone have a link or digital copy of a Charter Agreement from the 70’s or 80’s? I’d be much obliged to see it, if so. 

1 hour ago, MattR said:

Update on the hawk: it tried 3 times to pick off our dog. The dog is a 10 lb fluff ball that we got after my mother in law passed. It will ignore any shouting to come home unless it's wearing a beeper collar. But it's 5 degrees out so I figure it won't go far. He didn't. I got to see the whole thing.  That hawk had to pull up every time at the last second. Unlucky for the hawk. Very lucky for the dog. And the dog is usually very timid but this time he wanted to play with the big bird with the big talons. And I'm shouting at the dog while also wanting to watch this fascinating bird hunt.

What type of Hawk? Any impact between them? Sounds like not. Good thing. The pup jumped at the bird? Trying to get the full image. 

We live several houses away from about 250 acres of woods, then another similarly-sized tract over a two lane road. We have a small strip of it behind the house. Very small, but there is a creek which is attractive to all. We've had a pair of Barred Owls (which are so fun because they are often out in daylight) and pair of Red Tails since we moved in. Lately, with the cold rain and nasty weather, a Sharp Shinned has appeared in the Cypress tree near the bedroom window. At first, two sessions of multi-hour hunkering, the house protecting a major flank. Since then, she's been hunting. I guess she spotted all the birds while in her bivouac. She has driven no less than 4 Cardinals (birds not Priests) to crash into the window, fleeing for their lives. My wife has her office in there since Covid and she's nearly had multiple cardiac events as this has ensued following the bird's decision to hunt the feeder. Okay. I admit it. I also occasionally shoot critters out of the bedroom turret, er, window. That creates a complete circle of life menagerie as various predators vie for the bounty. They are lazier than I realized. One day, it was one of the two big Hawks, an Owl and a Red Fox. The Fox had the squirrel and the two dive-bombers wanted it. Was pretty cool while it lasted. 

4 hours ago, ThenNow said:

My "I reckon" was meant to say I have no idea, but I would sure think they'd want to know before the hearing starts... I am happy to ask the folks at Omni how they see the ballots being processed and tabulated. We've become close personal friends.  

3 hours ago, fred8033 said:

The new ballot was not for a 2nd round of voting.  It's part of cleaning up the first round of voting. 

Asked and answered, as follows: "The voting deadline is March 7, 2022, and then Omni’s voting report will be filed March 10, 2022."

3 minutes ago, fred8033 said:

Oh.  Ok.  The new ballot was not for a 2nd round of voting.  It's part of cleaning up the first round of voting.  I was trying to get context.

Yup. It's the get on board with the new plan ballot. Did you read that thing? Yikes, right?

36 minutes ago, fred8033 said:

You posted a PDF of a new ballot.  If the new ballot starts in March ... considering first ballot has taken almost six months ... would we face a August / September result?

My sleep deprivation is bleeding over and apologies for lack of clarity. 

My "I reckon" was meant to say I have no idea, but I would sure think they'd want to know before the hearing starts. I don't know how many votes they hope to see flip to accept, but it's not tens of thousands. I am happy to ask the folks at Omni how they see the ballots being processed and tabulated. We've become close personal friends.  

PS - A lot of these votes will come via master ballot from the state court firms. 

13 hours ago, ThenNow said:

Question: Why can't we know how these claims breakdown by open state, open state with in window claims (or timely filings), love within the current SoL and closed by Shades of Gray? I think we should have access to that information as claimants floating around in those numbers. Yes? No? Who cares...?

Translation:

With in = within

Love = live

Good grief = check your work, Doofus Magoo.

7 hours ago, yknot said:

physiological MacGyvering

That’s a great title for a book or documentary on men and aging. 

8 hours ago, fred8033 said:

The current balloting started in September and results are not fully resolved.  If this starts in March, when is the answer?  September?  

March 14th I reckon. since that’s the hearing start date. The vast majority of claims (as represented by the negotiating firms) are in agreement. 

9 minutes ago, Armymutt said:

I'd like to do the AT, but that's probably a dream at this point.  Just walking around my garage cleaning it for 10 hours yesterday caused my injured foot and ankle to swell.  Maybe PT will eventually fix it. 

I always wonder what through hikers do for a living.  The couple with the 5 year old for example.  There's no way the Army or my wife's job would be cool with us disappearing for 209 days.  Even the Scouts in '36 - where did they find 121 days to do it?  I guess the missed some school?

First off, I am NOT telling my wife you spent 10 hours cleaning your garage. That’s on her bucket list (for me to do) and I’ve so far been non-compliant and pretty much deaf to the clanging of the bucket. Actually, I think I tipped that bucket over and stuck it in cement that is no longer wet. Well done, you. Cause of injuries?

The Scouts certainly weren’t from farm families. I know of young people in their late twenties/early thirties who bought small houses in strategic places a few years ago, built out garages with full untitled, AirBnB the house and the garage and live traveling around. Checks auto deposited and pay someone 5-10% to manage. One family I know makes $50k-$60k per year on their house and that’s not full-time rental. I was never so smart or adventurous. My wife hates camping and car travel so that may be part of it.

On 2/20/2022 at 12:24 PM, Muttsy said:

Tier Nature of Abuse Claro Mid Base Claim Value Number of Valued BSA Sexual Abuse Claims Total Estimated Damages

1 Penetration $2,641,865 14,936 $39,458,891,957

2 Oral Sex $1,981,399 12,225 $24,222,597,458

3 Masturbation / Groping $1,320,932 17,868 $23,602,419,707

4 Touching-Unclothed $660,466 $653,861,526 990

5 Touching-Clothed / Photography $330,233 $296,219,085 897

Question: Why can't we know how these claims breakdown by open state, open state with in window claims (or timely filings), love within the current SoL and closed by Shades of Gray? I think we should have access to that information as claimants floating around in those numbers. Yes? No? Who cares...?

For any who are interested. The new ballot. Plain English. Second-grade level. Two-minute read on the treadmill. Enjoy.

Revote Ballot_Redacted.pdf

For any who are willing, I would appreciate knowing if survivors hearing my 'voice' are pro se in the case, as in you don't have an attorney representing you. I know there are a few of us here. It's estimated there are 4500 overall. Again, as you desire, also like to know open/closed and Shade of Gray if closed. Only for those who care to reply! No pressure. Zero.

1 hour ago, BobbyRo said:

As a scout leader you should know by now of The Coalition.Its a group of Scouts that are Leading in the next stages of Safer Scouting for the Youth 

35 minutes ago, Eagle94-A1 said:

The only Coalition I know about the the Coalition for Abuse Scouts for Justice. 

19 minutes ago, BobbyRo said:

I do indeed but I will keep it confidential for the safety of the youth scouts. This coalition will be Stern,Vigilant and will not continue to let this nonsense continue 

@BobbyRo, are you referring to the Survivor Working Group that was initiated by the Coalition of Abused Scouts for Justice and which, along with the TCC, negotiated with BSA for the enhanced youth protection measures now contained within the amended plan? This conversation got my attention because I am a BSA CSA survivor with a deep and abiding interest in YP. I think everyone would love to understand your reference points. Thanks.

2 hours ago, SiouxRanger said:

ThenNow before you go the "hook, line, and sinker" route, our Troop camped at Devil's Lake one April.

I grew up there. It’s my side yard. Slept in the snow banks as a kid. 

2 minutes ago, johnsch322 said:

I find you are as far from a Doofus Magoo as one could be.

You’ve not yet seen either my hair on a windy, humid day at the beach or my trifocals.  

Started with 2+ miles this week. Reasonably decent and relatively sore. Light hiker process continues. The Asolos are very, very nice. Spendy, but worth it if they’re just right. Looked at a pair of Keen’s. Debating if I need over the ankle, as both of mine are weak. Blew out the left one playing basketball in my 20’s and it’s not been right since.

1 hour ago, Muttsy said:

I dunno. 

I’m gratified and honored, though sorry, you have joined me in reciting one of my favorite mantras here on these threads. 

2 hours ago, johnsch322 said:

There definitely is no clearcut answers to anything you have just brought up.

Hm. I watched the faces of every attorney I’ve heard talk about this so far, including Jessic Lauria, Eric Goodman, Ann Andrews, Ken Rothweiler, Rich Puchulski, Jim Stang, Sir David Buchbinder, Mr. Patterson, a TCC insurance professional and several others. Excepting Mr. B, they know what is going on here. He confessed to having spent 7 hours reading 1000+ pages to be ready for the hearing without full understanding of what he read. As he noted, he’s a professional who has been reading stuff like this for a few minutes. Survivor claimants? Not so much.

When attorneys tell claimants (whether their clients in a white collar case or a group of mass tort survivors) “this is really complicated so I’ll give you an overview from 30,000 feet” and “trust us, this is beneficial to all claimants,” they know from whence they speak. I want to know who crafted this new track (all parties), how it was devised and why, what are the breakthrough access points for the towers/excess layers, how many claims are assessed to be “most horrific and most severe.” Someone surely knows — yes, I called you Shirley — the category of claims being discussed or they wouldn’t have decided on the $20,000 number per case. If only ten claims are anticipated to be in that category, the Trust would most like have absorbed the cost. If there at 27,000, not so much.

Are any closed state claims among the “most horrific and severe,” based on the nature of the abuse? You betcha. Based on damages resulting from injury, including factoring in the uptick for eggshell plaintiffs? You bet your sweet bippy. Show me the calculus upon which this model was built. Show me the numbers, the presuppositions and projections, and identify the advocates who crafted it. I realize I am Doofus Magoo, but give me a chance to cipher it out and don’t leave me to to build my own logic tower out of stick matches and model glue. (Nod to the 60’s guys who repeatedly stuck their fingers together building planes and automobiles.)

I’m done. I beg forgiveness for typos. I’m moving in all directions at once today. 

1 hour ago, johnsch322 said:

All else aside I think we should all keep in mind that this settlement is a long way from being done.

Agreed, but if I don’t understand the details, view of the various advocates and detractors, up/downsides, potential machinations and application to all claimants (as well as my case) the lack of control and grasp is deeply destabilizing to me.

23 minutes ago, NJScout1980 said:

My case was filed within the New York SOL open window and months and months before the BSA was reportedly considering a bankruptcy.

I think these and still open cases will be the majority taking the IR track. 

23 minutes ago, NJScout1980 said:

 I had all my information and evidence ready for years and years knowing New York would eventually change the SOL.  After my abuse a portion of what had happened was discovered through no action of my own

Of what nature is the evidence? The discovery was independent corroboration? Of what nature?

23 minutes ago, NJScout1980 said:

As for the seriousness or most horrific question, I don’t think that is a factor. My lawyer told me anyone can go that route. The individual gets to determine what they consider serious or horrific. The difference is the level of evidence, a “hearing” and risk.

It was said at least twice at the hearing. Perhaps they were trying to downplay the preferred class nature before the judge. She didn’t like it at the previous hearing. It’s a high risk endeavor. You can drop to zero. Also, as I understand it, time bar will be a complete defense to recovery. Black. White. No Shades of Gray. This is an open state path posing as “most horrific” and “most serious.” I want someone to be honest with me, if I’m correct.