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  1. A problem that has not been brought up, or I may have missed it. Many current church sponsors required that the scout leadership state that they agreed with the teachings of that church. A CO pastor could require membership to be from his church only. Under the facilities use only, they lose that control, so a  traditional church that does not support homosexuality could have the council appoint a gay or lesbian scouter or other leadership—leaving them few choices. 


  2. That makes the reply more offensive.

    I do not think we as adults have much right to say anything about what a youth wears unless it is genuinely offensive. 
    I see scouter wearing nonwood badge beads, weavings, old goat patrols labels,  multitudes of pins, ribbons, all nonuniform approved.


  3. If the girls are not registered as members of a charter troop/crew or lone scouts, they would I believe they would be unable to process any awards. If the boy troop is processing their awards for them, then it is committing fraud. Yes, coed troops are the future, but not now. Somewhere in the scout and law, obeying the rules is part of the system.
    Work to change the rules if you feel improper, but you do not have the right to change things to fit what you want.

  4. Camp will never to able to compete pay rates with private camps or even public systems. $200 per camper verse $600 plus

    This should not have come as any surprise. This was a topic on one of the nation round tables.

    Finding any camp staff that requires a certifation  is going to be more costly. The local camp will need to compete with a n increasing private sector demand and even against other councils camps and nation or regional scout camps. 

    If the camp wants the programs

    • offer more training
    • offer better pay
    • offer better working conditions
  5. The comments were not meant to go anywhere but to point out the that if this person is so focused being badge legal (wearing of toton chip flap ) Poking a child could also taken way out out of this meaning. If you one want to push the idea of battery.( unwanted touching of one person by an other) john


  6. The only correct choice would be go to the bath house as this is the only substantial building present.

    (Any Close hard top cars would be good also

    Open shelters look inviting but offer no lighting protection and maybe even an increased risk.

    Just look on the first page of BSA lighting awareness page.

    If they youth refuse to go good subject for a troop confernce .

    your other adults are the main issue?


    Lighting you go indoors no questions (search lightning deaths if you have any questions)



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  7. if Any summer camp is to happen I could see the following requirments

    1. limit the number of camper to 1/4 Camp normal capacity (bases on last years attendence)

    2. Test camper for fever at check in

    3. Test staff daily

    4. Have isolation areas set up

    5. Limit the number of weeks (possible skip weeks for cleaning)

    6. Decrease the days to five (for cleaning)

    7. one scout per tent

    8. No foreign scouts or scouters

    9. no out of state scouts

    10 decrease size of any merit badge class to 10 or less

    Just my ramblings , still having a hard time believing any summer camps will happen, praying they do, Offering to help out as health office for free at my local camp

    Fr. John


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  8. While it would be nice to think summer camps will happen I am not putting much faith in it. If the virus was lifted from the earth by end of April. The fear would still be there , The lack of money and other resources by parent who may be just getting back to work.  Finding supplies to open camp may not be possible or very expensive. Finding college age youths to be our staff may be also hard as colleges may be opening for the summer to help make  up for missed classes. This sadly may be the death of a lot of councils and scouting as we know it. All charitable groups fund raising is way down so is friends of scouting. Praying for a rebirth of was and is a good idea fill with good men and woman..

    Fr. John 

  9. 11 hours ago, desertrat77 said:

    @jcousino, welcome to Scouter.com!

    My question is even if an event is canceled there are already non recoverable costs that the council/Area  has to cover. If that event was to be a major money maker how does the council in todays market survive?. We have a major council wide camporee planned in about 4 weeks. do not see it happening with OA and venturing weekends every weekend to follow?

  10. We may be seeing the prefect storm that will push many councils over the financial brink

    • ·         Loss of LDS unit and fee’s

    • ·         Loss of continued loss of membership

    • ·         National financial issues effecting local giving

    • ·         National continued bad press effecting local view of scouting

    • ·         Fear of the corona virus keep parents from sending the children to camp.

    I believe like my council many councils depend on summer camp to cover a large part of camp upkeep.

    If these councils were to see a $ loss on the summer camp the results may be the final weight that breaks the finical backs of many.

    I can easily see these same issues be expressed on a regional and national level with canceled or smaller that planned OA and venturing events. It could go as far as canceling the national jamboree (it would not be the first time)



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