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  1. 3 hours ago, Oldscout448 said:

    I can't match your resume but I was quite unimpressed with most of my IOLS  instruction as well.   I offered to help teach too but was told that my services were not needed.  

    You must be a wave-maker like me😎😎😎

  2. 24 minutes ago, Eagle94-A1 said:

    Still have issues with both today, even with technology. Back then I remember having to tell the Philmont Training Center Faculty member in my district that according to the council's records, he was untrained. That was not a fun experience.

    18 years ago when National told councils to clean up their training records, it was a nightmare. In my council, anyone who had training done over a year prior was "untrained." One of the issues was that  BSA decided only to list only the most current Training courses titles.  None of the older course titles were listed.And some of our Scouters took training in the 1960s. To deal with the situation, The council pro's told us to  use the dates for the original training, but put in the title and codes for the current training. That worked for about 2-3 years. Then National realized they screwed up by not including the older training, any added the older courses, as well as time lines for the courses. That deleted all the work that was done with the older courses as they were beyond the date ranges of the current courses. Thankfully I kept paper and digital copies of all my work, and just had to resubmit. However the council and some training chairs did not keep those records, and they had to redo all the work again.


    I had to laugh here when I put in my paperwork to be a Scoutmaster about 7 years ago now.  The council registrar told me I had to do IOLS...

    Eagle Scout, 15 years camp staff, former ASM/SM for 11 years, 4 x NCS grad (Scoutcraft x 2, Aquatics instuctor, Commissioner), Woodbadge (1992l...would they grandfather me for that requirement?  


    OK, so I took IOLS...and was deeply unimpressed.  There were three instructors that were awesome...the rest, I wondered why they were there. The level of knowledge and skills was extremely lacking.  I began to understand why Scouts repeatedly came up short on skills and knowledge.

    So, I volunteered to help teach for the next few years.  

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  3. Just now, RememberSchiff said:

    I still see both 30in and 36in sash at $11.99


    I think @PACAN means sash with average amount of merit badges...

    21 required for Eagle @ $2.79 current = $58.59, plus sash cost of $11.99 = $70.58

    [My Eagle has 39 MBs currently, so replacement cost would be $120.80}

    A 23% increase would make that $86.81...and you average Eagle Scout has many more than 21 MB's...

    I can see over $100 easy for that...

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  4. 15 minutes ago, yknot said:

    but that's not the place they come from for most of the people that raise them on this forum or at least I don't think so. For example, I'm not here because I like constantly pointing out BSA's failings, I'm here because I want BSA to stop failing. 

    Hear, hear!!

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  5. Involvement of Abused Alumni Post-Bankruptcy?


    Other than persons appointed to serve on governance committees as a result of the bankruptcy settlement, do you think BSA alumni who were abused will return to serve youth in the BSA?


    If so, what do you think they should or will do as BSA volunteers?


    Is a sense of reconciliation or forgiveness likely or even possible?


    Will BSA volunteer parents of today’s daughters and sons and those who step forward to lead the BSA in the future be perpetually held to account for the negligent oversight and evil acts of the past?


  6. 13 minutes ago, fred8033 said:

    It's the continual dumping.  Statements like: that's failure.

    As many have pointed out, the perception, mine included, is that National (and the local council) does its "dumping" on volunteers...consistently.

    I have never been a part of any organization that practices "shoot the messenger" more consistently than BSA.

    There are also a string of failures, demonstrating a pattern of disregard for BSAs mission and purpose, and a disregard for the value that adult volunteers bring to their portfolio, which many, including me, have experienced.  They are failures, because they are being PAID!!!  And many of them, extremely handsomely, to provide services and support to volunteers and youth, which they are not.

    If it was just you and me as volunteers, I'd cut you a great deal of slack.

    I know what Shinola is.  And I know that much of what I see from BSA is not Shinola.




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  7. 29 minutes ago, fred8033 said:

    hate group

    Hate group? 

    What prompted that?

    A hate group = 

    An organization whose goals and activities are primarily or substantially based on a shared antipathy towards people of one or more other different races, religions, ethnicities/nationalities/national origins, genders, and/or sexual identities. The mere presence of bigoted members in a group or organization is typically not enough to qualify it as a hate group; the group itself must have some hate-based orientation/purpose. [Anti-Defamation League]

    We have no specific shared goals, and no activities, other than sharing experiences and opinions.  This is a venue for open discussion and expression of ideas to flesh out thoughts and stances on issues.

    What specifically would you identify as indicative of a "hate group"?

    And remember @fred8033, your my mere presence here is not enough to qualify this as a hate group.

    BTW, I hate everyone equally, but sporadically.  Hate is an emotion.  You cannot control emotions.  How I choose to respond to my universal hatred is something I can control.  And I choose to respond with kindness.



  8. 21 minutes ago, fred8033 said:

    BSA does provide scoutbook

    BSA bought Scoutbook, and does not provide support for it.  When they ended the Customer Help Desk for my.scouting.org, they dumped all support requirements on the local registrars, without any warning or training.  Scoutbook support is now done by volunteers.  It seems like it takes an act of God to to elevate an issue through a registrar to the National support desk, but that is the only way National takes input now.  the volunteers of the Scoutbook User Advisory Council monitor the forums on my.scouting to help people.  National does not monitor the forums there, unless it is to ID disgruntled volunteers.  There is no direct support for the end-users.  That is a fail, my friend.

    Most of the really good features I use for Scoutbook are provided by the original developer through the Scoutbook Feature Assistant add-on...which BSA does not provide or control.

  9. 5 hours ago, Eagle1993 said:

    I certainly hope BSA is looking at other organizations on the future of signing up adult volunteers.  There are groups out there that are far smaller that give a much better onboarding experience while limiting the demand on existing volunteers.


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  10. https://generalliabilityinsure.com/small-business/youth-groups-insurance.html


    Abuse and molestation exposure is very high due to activities being focused on children. No coverage is available to the abuser. While there is some coverage available in the standard market for the youth group where the abuse takes place, it may be very restricted.

    More complete coverage should be purchased through specialized markets. The youth group must take all possible care to protect children from predatory adults and older children through criminal background checks, training, monitoring, and supervision, and report all allegations of abuse to the proper authorities.

  11. 5 hours ago, FireStone said:

    I'm not but I'd like to look into it.

    Yes, indeed.  Any issues you have in Scoutbook with log ins, accounts, multiple IDs, etc., go there, start a new topic (most people put them in Scoutbook Bugs, although they aren't bugs), and post.  Someone will answer you within a few hours, and you will get an email notifying you.

    Recommend you read through a few posts of issues to get a flavor for how to ID the problems.  Never post personal info.  That should go without saying, but some people will post enough stuff on there that you could use to seriously mess with them.

    CAUTION:  You are not anonymous on that forum!  People who know what they are doing can find out who you are and what council and unit you are associated with.  Do not post anything you don't want tied back to you easily. 😜

  12. These must be bad peanuts at my local grocer, $3.00...

    Planters Lightly Salted Cocktail Peanuts 16 oz E-Commerce Front

    Wait...how about I buy the peanuts I like...support my local economy, and then donate $22.00 to a local Pack?  Yeah, that's the ticket!!

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  13. 7 hours ago, fred8033 said:

    Yeah, but cookies are sought and wanted versus the lame popcorn.

    C'mon man!  Who doesn't like a stale bag of chocolate covered pretzels for $50?

    OMG... 12 oz of salted peanuts for $24.99.  What a bargain!! https://www.trails-end.com/productDetails/1c58a99b-a40a-11e9-846b-0e41cfdb28ba

    With $18.24 donated to local council?  Hmmm...lemme think... how much do the kids get??

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