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  1. On 1/20/2019 at 4:30 PM, ccjj said:

    We purchased a 13th edition Boy Scout Handbook at our camp this fall.  They were selling them for $5.00    That is what my daughter will be using on February 1st.

    A Scout is thrifty! Sounds like a great plan. You will want to read  (edit - RS) about the two requirements where I noticed changes since she will have to use those updated requirements when ranking up.

    I have the new book in my hands because the Scout Shops are now selling them, which is a bit earlier than I had hoped. A quick rundown of the changes:

    All images of Scouts were updated to be girls. Several other photos containing people were changed to use females or are simply different. They still all have the same theme and often very similar poses.

    Colors behind headers, like section headings, have changed. The white text is more readable because the backgrounds are darker.

    Boy Scouts, when referring to the program, now typically says Scouts BSA. When referring to the individual, it is now Scout.

    The youth protection booklet in the front has more content. Likewise the safety chapter has much more about sexual abuse, plus the topics were slightly rearranged. Two pages were added here about dangers, warning signs, and what to do.

    I could find no updated hygiene section. Everything there looked the same. The instructions for tying a necktie are still in the book too.

    Structurally the books are identical up to chapter 13. That means each page in the 13th edition looks identical to the 14th edition. As mentioned earlier, there is more content in chapter 13, so chapter 14 starts on page 412 instead of 410, and we are back to nearly identical content. If you refer to any page before 396, those page number references, paragraphs and sentences are still spot-on.

    The only changes I noticed in the rank requirements were for Second Class 1b and First Class 1a. They seem to have relaxed the requirement a tiny bit, though I suspect the boys edition will have the same wording.

    Second Class 1b: "Since joining Scouts BSA, participate in five separate troop/patrol activities, at least three of which must be held outdoors. Of the outdoor activities, at least two must include overnight camping. These activities do not include troop or patrol meetings. On campouts, spend the night in a tent that you pitch or other structure that you help erect, such as a lean-to, snow cave, or tepee. (See pages 260 and 276-277.)"

    First Class 1a has 10 activities, six outdoors and three overnight camping. The rest is the same 

    Oh that brings up another change. The requirements all now have page numbers listed for relevant information.

    I may have missed some stuff, but I did page through it for the past two hours and that was everything I saw. Overall I am very pleased with this book.

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  2. On 1/6/2019 at 6:35 PM, fidian said:

    Scouts BSA Handbook for Boys, 14th edition, publication 34462, SKU 648103

    Scouts BSA Handbook for Girls, 14th edition, publication 39006, SKU 648768

    An email was sent out and the Scout Shops will hold the new Scouts BSA materials (handbooks, shirts, etc.) until February 1st as the official release date.

  3. On 8/28/2018 at 3:44 PM, gblotter said:

    Different handbooks with different numbers.

    Scouts Handbook for Boys, No. 34462

    Scouts Handbook for Girls, No. 39006

    I've been able to track down the SKUs for those publication numbers. I'm told that "the warehouse has 10,000 copies on order that have not yet been fulfilled." Posting this information here because this is the only place I was able to even find this information.

    Scouts BSA Handbook for Boys, 14th edition, publication 34462, SKU 648103

    Scouts BSA Handbook for Girls, 14th edition, publication 39006, SKU 648768

    On 8/28/2018 at 6:37 PM, Jameson76 said:

    The messaging concerning Boy Scouts (AKA Scouts BSA)  has been IDENTICAL programs, no changes to the program, the same program for all, etc etc.   Step on up and get your Eagle.  Now there are in fact two handbooks, a Girls Handbook and a Boys Handbook.  One would assume actually 4 handbooks, 2 for Girls English and Spanish and 2 for Boys English and Spanish.

    What message does that send?  Basically subliminally telegraphing that there are in fact differences.  There probably are not any other than the photos, but is that in fact the case (one would hope that is the case).  Again, even another botched message from the tone deaf crowd at National.

    I see the necessity of the Spanish vs English books. I also agree with the point that there should be a single book. Perhaps it was done in order to make the boys and girls both accept the book more readily. Boys, especially when they are 11 - 13, don't want to read books by girls or that feature girls or do anything with girls. Take the Harry Potter author; Joanne went by J. K. Rowling because the publishers asked to user her initials in order to disguise her gender and open the book up to young (and apparently finicky) readers.

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