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Unsupported as in camping in spots where during the course of a float trip wherein external support is not feasible, or purposefully avoided.

I've seen my fair share of shenanigans. My own son was awarded a 50 miler award when he only completed 1 hour of service work instead of 10. I've been pressured to sign off on on awards and have refused. I witnessed an adult leader be awarded a 5 year veteran award who had only been a leader for 38 months at the last district banquet. This stuff unfortunately happens all the time. Good ole boy nepotism ...... There was also a point in time in my early scouting career I did not have a complete handle on all the processes, such as differentiating in any meaningful the difference betwe

Advancement is only one of eight methods of scouting. Personal growth is also a method, and I think most would agree it is much more meaningful. About 30 percent of our Troop is either ADHD, OCD, or ASD. It has always been this way, and it takes a caring, consideration, and time, to move a Troop forward in this situation, and still have the unit program to be youth led.

I smell a little fudge.

These should be areas of focus for relatively new leaders (3 years or less experience): 1. Understand the BSA parameters. Constantly study the Guide to Safe Scouting, acquaint one's self with the Troop Leader Guidebook. Understanding what the is permissible or not is key. There is no help for an adult leader that haplessly blunders into forbidden territory. 2. Learn to use resources that measure conditions. For example, many flat foots head out Grayson Highlands & Mt. Rogers VA in the Spring for backpacking not understanding the relationship between altitude (4500-5500') and

My Troop occasionally perform uniform inspections for an arbitrary period, and recognizes the scout who best meets all the criterias. This exercise has improved the appearance of the scouts well past the exercise. I suggest doing this type of exercise in the Winter for 8 weeks. There isn't much going on outdoors this time of year.

So older scouts want to get their game on with backpacking and unsupported overnight floats, but there is a strong presence of 10-12 year old scouts. There is never enough time, or committed adults to enable a satisfactory situation for all. No backpack trip in two years...Let's have a discussion about Outdoor Program management and fairness. I seeking examples of good activity management and Outdoor Program management. Also do you adhere to the age recommendations for backpacking...13 and up?

I feel you're completely missing the point. Sectarian preaching is wholly inappropriate in the world of scouting imo. Whatever happened to "A Scout is Kind"? I once witnessed a hell fire sermon being preached at a camporee. I'm a Baptist, and I regret not reporting this to the council as an inappropriate incident.

The patrol method is covered in considerable detail in the Troop Leader Guidebook Vol. I. Unfortunately, very few adult leaders read the Troop Leader Guidebook. The Troop I currently participate in recently has recently experienced a succession. The former SM valued the youth led concept, but failed to facilitate the fruition of a youth led Troop because of the following processes were not practiced. No ILST training for 6 years No annual or semi annual planning conference with the PLC ever. No ASMs assigned as patrol advisors to hold youth leadership accountable, e.g.

I suspect less than 50 percent of the unit/adult leaders in my district know what the stated aims of scouting are. Almost as many probably do not know there are even stated aims. National communicates via online training and various publications. The most substantial of which is the Troop Leader Guidebook Vol. I -III imo. However, few make an effort to immerse themselves in the TLG and other publications. District training focuses only on compliance such as "make sure your YP is up-to-date", but not so much on program comprehension, or even discussions about teaching tools.

@qwazse, I want to learn more about the wild ride you speak of.

OHC

Bookay, but I'm keeping the tank top!

Stopping by to learn a few things, and to blow off some steam. Hopefully I won't degrade this fine resource in any manner. Ran the Outdoor program for the Troop for several years, served a CC, and now serving as ASM. Looking to start of a Venturing unit in the near future. Cheers Y'all