TMSM

15 minutes ago, RememberSchiff said:

IMO, a closer relate would be scout Tommy slapped the butt of scout Jenny. Jenny called the police. 

OK Jenny slaps Tommys butt during a Venture crew meeting. I see no difference what the gender is.

Let's relate this to scouts - If scout A slapped the butt of scout B do you call the police? Call the 1-800 of YPT? Have a discussion with both and help them come to some conclusion.

Sorry but he clearly say it was a bad decision and not the right way to act. At :51 the girl admits that it is an apology. Is there a rule book or some kind of guideline that says here is exactly how to apologize to get forgiveness? We are a very diverse nation with different cultures and some people may say sorry in different ways. I get it that in your opinion he didnt go far enough or say the right words but if the world would learn to forgive it would be good for all of us.

1 hour ago, qwazse said:

@TMSM, he "apologized" after he was caught.

Sorry but I don't think there is any laws on how to apologize. He did apologize gave a good explaination of why it was wrong. I just think it makes you a better person when you accept someones apology and not have a specific conditions on it.

Forgiving is not saying what happened was acceptable, its acknowledging that the person feels bad, learned his lesson, taught others and allowing yourself move on. Thats how you regain your power.

He made a mistake and apologized. What ever happened to forgiveness? Not saying he shouldn't be punished but we all make mistakes.

On 10/21/2019 at 9:13 PM, ParkMan said:

As a local volunteer, I have three choices:

1. ignore the rules and run a program like in the old days
2. follow the rules, but try to find solutions to the obstacles they present.
3. blindly follow the rules, decide I can't do what I want, and run a crappy program

I do #2 but interpret the rules in a way that make #1 the true way I run the program.

The best thing I ever did to help make the troop "boy - led" was to teach the scouts several ways to tell the adults to back-off

- Stage 1 "hey we got this"

- Stage 2 "I think it would be great if we could get just scouts ideas right now"

-Stage 3 " We joined th troop because we are "scout led" can you provide more details on what we can and can't take the lead on?

They use #1 on meall of the time and it makes me smile.

In our troop the SM works with the QM and the ASM of equipment to identify what is needed, what features are needed and they choose what fits. We then look at several sources and figure out costs. At a commitee meeting we ask for funds first, then provide details of the tent. The vote is for providing funding not for the type of tent. 

We only buy Eureka Timberline tents and always wait for the Campmor 25% sale.

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Another father-less shooter. I think that's 9 out of the last 10. They don't mention that until the end.

I have taken Webelos to the Boudary Waters for a 5 day trip. 4 dads and their scouts and had a great time. Didn't call it a Webelos trip though more of 4 families getting together for adventure.

Are you concerned about liability? Those boys are young but should be able to go a mile with dads help.

Here is a similiar thread 

We cook turkeys on tripods over charcoal. Turkey is put in oven bags to cook in its own juices. Chicken wire baskets full of charcoal are placed strategicall around box made of aluminum sheets

One thing to consider is diversity. Don't plant just one species or tree type. I remember this warning from my college days when U of I planted all Elms in the Quad and when they succomed to Dutch Elm disease they replanted with Ash trees thinking they were the hardiest of all trees. 

No way. SM works with scouts! This is backoffice for sure CC is wrong.

Yes it was the same application as Jamesons post. We have been doing the same fundraiser for 67 years and always get approval. We did get approval for this year but were told we could not wear uniforms.

When our unit fundraising chair provided the fundraising application to Council they put a big x through "Will your members be in uniform while carrying out this project?" and said nope, can't wear uniform to sell pancakes. We plan to just ignore but our Unit fundraiser is not comfortable with this.

Are you saying that pancakes are not a commercial product and this is a scouting activity to raise funds?

We have a new fund raising chair who insisted that we can no longer wear class As while selling our pancake breakfast tickets. Thats not going to happen but was wondering if anyone has ever gotten into trouble wearing uniforms during fund raising. 

Somehow we always have a really good campout planned the same weekend as MBU - imagine that. We have worked hard to cover all (except swimming) Eagle required MBs plue 20 or more other badges with adults in the troop. 

My biggest issue with MBUs is the lack of need for SM signature or council and the fact that so many first year scouts come back disapointed that they didnt finish their MB. If the had come to me first I would have at least guided them to the right ones and discussed the work needed to be done BEFORE the MBU. 

At some point you have to consider that its not worth the effort. Scouting is supposed to be fun but if dont have enough scouts its not worth it. If your community has no interest in having a big enough girls pack or enough girls to form dens then sometimes its better to find an alternative.

Co-ed dens? Please just stop. No need to rehash this.

1 hour ago, Eagle1993 said:

 My disappointment is not necessarily the increase, but the lack of any transparency on what they did to ensure their financial house gets back in order.  

Lets hope that changes soon. I would like to see National do some cuts at the higher level and make a flatter organization.

Those are summer camp patches and segments (Tomahawk Camp I think). Nothing belongs below the pockets on the right side except for Recruiter. AOL allowed on the left.

Sea Base is now 13 and rank does not matter. We saw a lot of very immature scouts at Sea Base Out island last year and it was very disappointing. 

There are hidden morals in some of the skits - Most of the good ones make you think, trick your mind at first then change to a different reality

What about flag retirement that seems pretty seriousand not always done at the end of the program.

I have heard  civil war ghost stories

My Scout loves BL and Scouting magazines. Also likes Backpacking magazine and reads most cover to cover. Not sure why, I rarely see him with a book and all of high school books are on his iPad. I do read them also although usually get them second hand.

I would think most troops has some teasing or horseplay that could be construed as bullying by someone who is very sensitive. We try to teach 2 things to be proactive - Protect those who are less likely to be able to protect themselves and we tell some of the scouts to "grow a pair" and learn how stick up for themselves. We occasionaly find a Nelson Muntz but they get ratted out pretty quickly and we stomp that behaviour out pretty quickly.

We do invasive species removal to win this award. There are no rules around how big the project is and I find that this award is more to share vision of scouting throughout the world.