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  1. Ahh.....This should be good (spotted at National Meeting)
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    What is the protocol?

    Wow there is a lot wrong here. Only speaking for our unit but actually kicking someone out has only happened once in maybe 20+ years In that instance the Scout was asked to not return after multiple meetings with the parents, a suspension from outings, suspension for a period and no improvement. IMHO an expulsion from the troop should not come as a surprise to the affected. We have of course had issues between Scouts. In all cases there have been conversations with the SM, CC, parents, and the Scout. Key is to get all the detail and as many have said, insure you have an informed, fair, and impartial decision. Main goal is to keep the Boy Scout active in the troop.
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    And yet more changes - even Pedro is not spared

    I bet they said "Yes...as of right now"
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    And yet more changes - even Pedro is not spared

    Our CSE.... maybe needs to read up on the Oath and Law as he makes statements
  5. If you finished Eagle December 1973 (NOTE - as did I and we took paperwork to Council office on like Friday 12/28 or Monday 12/30, stood in line, and got it filed) then you were under the original requirements and hopefully avoided ISP, berets, and asking the kindly policeman for directions while out on a hike.
  6. I was being kind...also haven't you been paying attention??? THOUSANDS of GIRLS are signing up, plus the LIONS, plus the FAMILIES, and did I mention the GIRLS, and STEM, and SOCCER, and LEARNING FOR LIFE, why the tent is HEEWGE and will need to get HEEEWGER, what with all of this influx BSA (current corporate name but not married to it), will need to no doubt add (wait for it) SUMMIT WEST to handle the need for High Adventure
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    2017 Annual Report

    https://scoutingwire.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/2017-Annual-Report-Combined-FINAL-App-Version.pdf Always interesting - you have to really read the notes. The National Council’s controlling interest in its unrestricted net assets decreased by $6,479,000. The decrease in net assets was driven by payments made to the Boy Scouts of America Retirement Plan for Employees totaling $14,400,000 claims and provision expense related to the General Liability program totaling $57,427,000. Offsetting the decrease in net assets was increases in investment income totaling $58,745,000. Total expenses increased by $19,864,000 to $283,604,000 in 2017, up from $263,740,000 during 2016. Of this increase, $33,221,000 relates to cost attributed to the 2017 National Scout Jamboree. Offsetting the increase are declines in expenses attributed to pension and insurance cost of $13,564,000 (Note under REVENUES that Fees increased in 2017 by $24,426,000 primarily due to the 2017 National Scout Jamboree - so I guess we lost $9,000,000 at Jambo) The National Council’s financial condition for 2018 and the next few years will depend, in large part, upon three factors. The first is the outcome of the litigation discussed within this report (see Note 9) and the impact to GLIP (Note 7). The second lies with the success of securing donations for the Summit project in order to continue to pay bond payments as scheduled and maintaining compliance with debt covenants. The third factor is the economy and legislation and their effect on market conditions and liquidity requirements. Quite a few notes and comments on Summit - Here is one In March 2012, the National Council issued debt to finance the development of the Summit. $175,000,000 in 10-year, tax exempt bonds was added to the existing 2010 Series A and B bonds, and the 5-year $50,000,000 line of credit was increased by $25,000,000 to $75,000,000. Bond issuance costs were $100,000. The Series A bond was paid in 2015 and the Series B bond has monthly principal and interest payment with a balloon payment of $40,363,000 due in 2020. The $175,000,000 bonds payable, requires monthly interest and principal payments with a balloon payment of $136,834,000 due in 2022.
  8. Well...let's see 10 years down the road All packs / troops / units will be coed The uniform will be a suggestion, more just a shirt likely Duty to God and Statement of Declaration of Religious Principle will be greatly amended, watered down, or tossed The current 266 Councils will be consolidated to under 150 A financial reorganization due to the Summit debacle The registration (showing 2,659.439 in 2017 annual report) will be down to well under 2,000,000 The number of units (showing 99,814 in 2017 annual report) will be down to well under 80,000 Major requirement changes and updates, less emphasis on actual outing and more emphasis on "events" Also more options and paths to advancement, so as in the 70's, you can likely get to Eagle and never actually camp, start a fire, leave the house Summer camp will be vastly different in appearance and scope Families and family "events" in the program formerly known as Boy Scouts will be common place More emphasis on STEM and non outdoor items, leading to more dilution of the brand
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    And yet more changes - even Pedro is not spared

    So so true - Missed opportunity to brand the Girls program for 11 - 17 year olds as something new, same requirements, but they will be the program not called Girl Scouts. Then there is recognition of the differences, Boy Scouts stays the same...win win Same with youth oriented magazine. Though honestly with the membership price increase we may keep annual troop dues the same and have the upcharge for Boys Life (or whatever Life) The National Meeting is still going one...so who knows
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    And yet more changes - even Pedro is not spared

    Wonder if Pedro (a male given name from/in Spanish, equivalent to Peter) will be given a more gender neutral name or will there be a new addition in XXXXX Life with a feminine twist
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    Breaking Point

    God I hope I am on that list...wonder if there is a patch??? Seems to be a beer for the club
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    Breaking Point

    Agree Even though our CO has the largest unit(s) in the district (Cubs and Boy Scouts) and highest FOS and community service hours I can honestly say in the last 10 years we have only seen the DE or any professional outside of RT or when they wander by our winter COH (read money time) exactly zero times. Granted we do not do any camporees, district events, council camporamas, etc. As for the fabled white unicorn of Scouting (the unit commissioner) maybe twice in the same period. They may be scared of us and we hope to keep it that way
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    Breaking Point

    Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it
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    Breaking Point

    Revamping and assuming all the current folks / participants would stay worked really well for ISP the "Improved Scouting Program" in 1973
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    Most Boy Scouts would be shocked to learn that their phone can actually be used for voice communications.
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    Breaking Point

    And the challenge is that sooo many Scouters take WB and assume they are now the end all be all when what needs to be conveyed is likely how to actually run a program, make sure they have a fun program, and know how to run a unit While leadership and management team development is important, not sure it is what the focus of the "premiere" BSA training course should be. Really needs to be focused on what the heck to do outdoors, how to have a successful unit program, how to implement Boy Led units.
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    Unit Leader Award of Merit

    When you find an award and give the award, make darn sure you announce the right name for the award
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    LDS girl wants to be a scout - BSA or GSUSA

    Had a conversation with a parent one time, said he was an atheist, was concerned about our "influencing" his son in Christian beliefs. First point I made was that we were in fact sponsored by a UMC, met at the UMC, held COH and other events in the sanctuary of the UMC, so by default there was going to be a slight Christian influence. Not in your face and lake baptisms, but we did do a prayer as we left on outings, Sunday Scout's own ecumenical (very short) service, and a closing prayer before we departed an outing. Usually just mention God and a request / thank you for safe travels and a safe weekend. We tend to pledge allegiance to the flag also. Then as we talked while he said he was atheist, as I peeled that onion back it wasn't that he was an so much an atheist, he just didn't like or believe in organized religion. He did sort of feel that there was likely a higher power of some sort that he could not fully define. I explained that was probably within the broad definition of religious principle
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    Required Worksheets?

    Nothing more and nothing less We use the Boy Scout Handbook. Pretty much has all the requirements list in a handy chart in the back. Once they are all signed off, SM conference and BOR The troop does recommend using the MB workbooks as that helps the Boy Scouts keep organized
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    Mike Rowe: Death of Boy Scouts?

    Sad part is the whole thing is like 105 pages....not so much a Guide as a Tome
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    BSA Executive Salaries

    Possibly, but not really. I was a DE for a while. Key thing was membership numbers and money. Quality program never enters the conversation
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    Breaking Point

    My joke with many of the Wood badgers (cult of the pink hankie) is "hey, this is a Boy Scout (only works if one the youth is around), have you dealt with any of them recently???
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    Breaking Point

    Goals for my scouting "career" (career seriously??)? Have fun, help the Boy Scouts in the unit have fun, and not get killed in fiery backpacking stove explosion. Other than that, do not plan to give it much thought
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    Breaking Point

    Breaking point for most will be when substantial change that you are not in favor of or cannot support comes to roost in whatever part of Scouting where you personally find satisfaction and reward. For me that satisfaction and reward is working with the troop at the unit level. Changes in membership requirements a few years back, really did not effect the unit. Adding girls, we do not do any district or council camporees and also plan to be single gender (no linked either) so again does not really effect the unit. Name changes ( to loosely quote Starship - Someone always playing corporation games; Who cares they're always changing corporation names) really does not effect the unit. Summer camp may be a different thing in 2019, will have to see and we will adjust plans as needed. Are there things that would effect the unit? Absolutely. Requirements could change, less outdoor focus (we really need more), maybe Coed is not optional, substantial membership fee increases, and other myriad items. Then that could be a breaking point Real challenge is that with these changes how does this effect potential families and boys perception of the BSA? Obviously depends on what you are looking for in a group. Not sure if a 10 year old boy who maybe is one the fence will now rush to join since girls can join.