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  1. Actually the number that attain Eagle Scout is much higher They do the math by saying 50,000 Eagle Scouts this year and 800,000 Scouts are registered this year so 6%. Then next year there are 50,000 Eagles and 800,000 Scouts so again 6% of Scouts. So on every year. X Eagles in a year and Y Scouts, divide and get the percentage. The misrepresentation is that many (hopefully most) Boy Scouts stay in for more than 1 year. The actual percentage needs to be X unique Boy Scouts and Y Boy Scouts earn Eagle Scout so you get % of Scouts that get Eagle
  2. That does seem a bit heavy. Not in a pack but our Troop has a Winter COH for families, friends, etc. We get a meal provided (not exactly catered but you get the picture), cost is $12 per person. $35 an adult does seem a might pricey
  3. Report them? Are there Girl Scout Cookie police? What if they are just wandering by?? What if they are customers?? What if they are members of the family?? Soooo many questions
  4. In our district there is not a face to face meeting to get the district approval. Scout working on the Eagle project, after getting unit approvals, sends the PDF and signatures to the district person. Copying in unit leader, etc. The district reviews and either approves, approves with some small recommended additions, rejects and send back to unit for review. Original signature page is left in a drop box. If there were some challenges with the unit and the process, then a meeting can be scheduled with the unit leader, Boy Scout, etc. In our particular area I would presume no
  5. So true as we have all seen with the current state of finances of the BSA. This expense can be seen in notes in the annual reports, increase in the registration fee, talks of bankruptcy (wonder what happened with that??), opening up joining criteria to increase members.
  6. In these parts they have e-days, so while they are not in school, students must log-in by a certain time, do their assignments, and it counts as a school day That way no extended days
  7. Cycling is a hard one due to the rides, yes if you are cycler it is straightforward, but to the casual participant it is tough. We are near one of the longest rails to trails in the country, literally it runs 90 miles one way. The troop does a bicycle trek on it annually. For the weekend the scouts can typically accomplish the 25 mile and then a 10 or 15 the next day. Also they can do the 50 mile if they are up to it. There are 7 rides total, so it does take planning. Over a couple years a Scout can complete maybe 4 of the rides with the troop and do the other 3 around the city we l
  8. So...let's assume you have 12 Scouts / Parents each time for 12 events and it's 2.5 hours each time - That is 360 hours. For that time investment the unit gets $1,000 or roughly $2.75 per hour expended. Also clearly there would be more time put in to organize the monthly labor needs, phone calls, schedules, etc. That will fall on one of the leaders plates to coordinate. May be better to just pay the recharter fee directly from unit funds and politely decline to be a labor force for the CO...unless you get a split of the profits.
  9. First thought is this is one of the pitfalls / minefields that will be an obstruction to delivering program, but the lawyers will love to have the discussion Second thought is that as the requirement is at least one female on the event, then as long as no one on one contact, and there is a registered female on the event, you would be in compliance. Currently we have 1 leader and multiple Boy Scouts in cars / vehicles all the time. There is more than one leader on the outing (two deep) and there is no one on one contact with the youth as there is more than one Boy Scout in the car.
  10. No doubt there was a survey, then a listening tour, then a sub-committee meeting on the topic, then a working committee meeting on the topic, then a general committee meeting on the topic which was forwarded with a resolution of support for the change to the legal topics sub-committee, who then reviewed, sought outside counsel advise, the outside counsel then also reviewed, looked over historic documents to understand what the original framers of the Guide to Safe Scouting's intent may have been, the watched "Follow Me Boys" (twice) as active reference material, reviewed the desired change on
  11. Below are the requirements. I suspect it could be done in one meeting. There is the requirement (#2) of "After Attending". As the rank is to be earned after they joined Scouts BSA, not sure how that would be handled. One could prep all the others, but that one specifically indicates after. Repeat from memory the Scout Oath, Scout Law, Scout motto, and Scout slogan. In your own words, explain their meaning. Explain what Scout spirit is. Describe some ways you have shown Scout spirit by practicing the Scout Oath, Scout Law, Scout motto, and Scout slogan.
  12. Average of 6.55 Scouts per unit. Trust they get to critical mass quickly. A Scout troop with less than 10 Scouts is hard to keep the momentum going.
  13. Reading the article, and some others, possibly the dad encouraged him to do the protest. Certainly the young man and his family have every right to protest in whatever way they care to and wherever they might feel the urge. They have that right as a US citizen. The First amendment is in fact the first for a reason. I many not agree with his protest, but he does have the right to protest. The problem is that the Cub is in fact representing not only his pack, but his Charted organization, his district, his council, and the BSA in general. If he wants to protest the pledge of allegi
  14. From the CSE Letter - Note the term "collaborating". The BSA (i.e. National Office) will be very involved The BSA, the Institute for Research on Youth Thriving and Evaluation (RYTE) at Montclair State University, and the American Institutes for Research are collaborating to conduct the study.
  15. Since it is a survey by BSA National Office, can they save time by going ahead and publishing the results now? Would save a lot of time and money to go ahead and tell the minions in the trenches what they want us to know. Your example of the First Class First Year is spot on. The real challenge is that it is NOT rocket science to keep Scouts active. But to justify the headquarters jobs and spend the money, they've got to do something that appears helpful. The secret?? Have a FUN program. Go camping, Go outside, Go do stuff. Now the problem is how to get that implemented at every tr
  16. To be clear, there is no Post Project / Pre-EBOR required of the District or Council There is Unit and District approval of the project proposal. There is no requirement that the district review be a board or that the approval be a meeting. Just that there is a review by the district advancement team or their designee. There is not a specific requirement for a Post Project / Pre-EBOR. Only that the Scout, Beneficiary, and Unit Leader sign that the work was completed. The Eagle application and project process is covered in detail in Section 9 in the Guide to Advancement. All the
  17. Use of the word (or it's longer form) POLITICAL 4 times in one sentence is impressive. And I would agree. The setting, use of the BSA uniform with a rank patch she knows very well was not actually awarded, and wearing an ERA button is very much a political (see definition below) statement and not happenstance. She is putting as much pressure as possible to get what she wants, sort of scorched earth at this point. A definition of politics (and there are many) - Politics is the process of making decisions that apply to members of a group. It refers to achieving and exercising positions
  18. Careful...you could get labeled a conditional Scouter and un-Scoutlike for posing such questions......
  19. Sort of like Auto Mechanics that is now Automotive Maintenance, it can be confusing They brought back Pathfinding and Stalking in 2010 as part of the historic merit badges. Pathfinding was interesting and achievable, had a good clinic for that one with the unit. We looked at having a clinic for Stalking but it was pretty in depth and took a hard pass.
  20. That would be awesome.... Challenge is daddy would likely already have the lawsuits typed up and ready to file if things did not go 100% their way
  21. Well. When you want what you want, just keep moving the goal posts until the organization accedes to your demands.
  22. Wow...I guess it is all about her. Guess the whole all about the journey thing is not in her wheelhouse. She has a path to earn the Eagle Scout rank, but feels that is not the way she should earn (be awarded??) the rank. She want to be "recognized immediately, and not asked to re-do years of work as Scouts BSA has suggested" No. You will be asked to do the work as a registered Scout under the advancement guidelines as every registered Boy Scout (now Scouts BSA) participant has done and will do. Nothing more and (note this) nothing less.
  23. Absolutely. Youth are free to learn all they would like in whatever forum they may want. For rank requirement from the time the youth is eligible to join, they need to follow all the requirements. Getting awarded ranks from the now Scouts BSA organization within the BSA will (should??) require them to follow all time and process needs.
  24. I am not advocating preventing anyone from learning anything. What a small group of the newly joined members (one in particular) want to do is get the recognition from their time as they were tagging along with relatives. They basically want to be awarded ranks from the time before they joined the now Scouts BSA program. While they no doubt benefited from their experience, they were not in fact members of the organization. If they do join, they will need to adhere to all advancement guidelines, including time between ranks, camping nights as a member, merit badges requirements as a mem
  25. @qwazse Can you explain why you would want to let someone who was not a member of the Scout organization earn ranks within the Scout organization for their life experiences?
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