MikeS72

Unless I misunderstood something, we (UMC units) must still file the re-charter paperwork as we normally do, and must pay the registration fees for each Scout and adult leader. What we do not do is pay the $75 Charter Org fee until at least March 31, provided UMC continues as a Charter Org, in which case we would have to do so through what ever CO we may be able to find. In that case we would not see a surge of payments in April 2022.

I did the adult training module as soon as it was released, and saw nothing (at least to me) objectionable. As for the MB, I would support taking the various parts of it and integrating them into the existing Citizenship MBs rather than creating a stand alone Eagle required badge. Other than the MB counselors, most people would probably not even notice the changes. I could easily image it becoming something like the annual Cyber Chip renewals, where the scouts would watch and discuss a video once a year or once every other year.

This part seems to have gone out verbatim to every Methodist Conference. We got the same information in a letter last week, however, there are churches in our district and council who have looked at the wording "strongly recommend" and have said 'nope, this does not change anything for us'. Hoping that something gets worked out to allow the relationship between the church and BSA to continue.

Interesting how many times he faults the 'mass tort' lawyers, as he calls them (can't say what I would like to call them) "because the will take a piece of your payment which under the current $1.854 billion settlement fund will total more than $425 million." He only once mentions his cut: "Under your engagement letter with AIS, your payment will be reduced by 40% to pay for the attorneys' share of the payment". Not any different than what he is faulting the 'mass tort' lawyers for, other than to whom those $$ are going.

I would be both amazed and appalled at the same time if there was any regular poster here that did not agree that there should be zero tolerance for any and all CSA.

Some will try, few will succeed. No shower Friday night, momma better be driving to camp to pick you up - not getting back in my car!

I have known many a scout for whom 72 hours would be no barrier to eating something that the racoon would turn it's nose up at. There are times that I think many scouts think the 72 hour rule is the minimum time between showers when at summer camp. 😏

I think what @Eagledadwas saying is how much of that 50% number is what immediately comes to mind when the term sexual abuse is used, and how much of it is a couple of 11 or 12 year olds who got caught comparing development in the shower house at summer camp. Without that breakdown, it is hard to know how to react to that part of the announcement. I would think that if it is the former, that is very concerning, and may well lead to a 3 tiered program that many other countries use, splitting ScoutsBSA into 2 age distinct groups. On another note, I fully agreed with the comments about

Not surprised at all by the first, extremely skeptical of the second. I am of the belief that 50% statistic includes a large percentage of curious exploration and 'show me' behaviors, which, when done in an adult to youth setting is definitely coercive and abusive, may be nothing more than that curiosity between youth of the same age. I would agree however, when it is a much older scout with a young one, that is different, and I would include those interactions in the definite abuse category. That is why even before it became BSA policy to not allow youth to tent together if they have m

We have several scouts in our pack who earned the award through the Methodist Church. Pastor signed a certificate and we presented them with the knot at a pack meeting. We also had several earn it in the troop. In their cases, it was presented at Scout Sunday service.

I watched as well, and that is not at all how I interpreted that comment. I took it to be a response to not signing the NDA, and not talking about the problems he feels have not been dealt with adequately, not that someone at BSA tried to tell him not to cooperate with a discovery request. I watched as well, and that is not at all how I interpreted that comment. I took it to be a response to not signing the NDA, and not talking about the problems he feels have not been dealt with adequately, not that someone at BSA tried to tell him not to cooperate with a discovery request.

We are hoping that extending charters until 3/31/22 will give time for something to be worked out between BSA and UMC. Our local church notified us a week ago that they would not recharter, but would be willing to go with a facilities use agreement. We would still have a place to meet, but would need to find someone to hold the charter. If this means that they may be near an agreement to continue sponsoring scouting, it would be great. My initial thoughts are that if we have to find a new charter, we would likely use their facilities as well.

Not sure what phylum, genus or species to put some into.

If I read the information at one of the Mic-O-Say links correctly, they and the KC Chiefs are not just in the same area, but owe their name and history to the same person.

My comment was in direct response the the idea that Boys & Girls Clubs require and interview with professional staff. I am sure that my district could establish a committee to do this with volunteers, as could many others. That was not what @Eagle1993 stated in his Boys & Girls Clubs post.

Considering that we usually only have one professional staff person (DE) per district, it kind of falls to the CO (or unit) to do this. I am sure that while some CO's and units take this seriously, many just sign the adult app and depend on it not getting kicked back during the background check. Again, with that one DE in most instances, it is nearly impossible to meet with all volunteer on a monthly basis. We do see our DE at most of our Roundtables, but since attendance at Roundtable is not mandatory, there are, as you state, many volunteers who have never met a professional. I reall

Not sure what state you live in, but here our local schools require bullying training for all staff and students. As a part of that training, there are several things that must be present for behavior to be classified as bullying. 1. The behavior must be unwanted or unwelcome. 2. There must be a real or perceived imbalance of power. 3. The behavior either is, or has the potential to be, repeated over time. On that 3rd point, the repeated behaviors do not have to be leveled at the same student every time it occurs. For example, if we have an older student who makes it a habit

Yes, as soon as it was available. I posted somewhere earlier that before we condemn the D, E, & I training or the MB (whatever it ends up being called) we should spend a few minutes to do the training. I saw absolutely nothing in that presentation that I found objectionable.

Central Florida Council

Not in my council. When the council program fee was instituted a couple of years ago, it meant an end to fees for district events such as Cub Family Camp, District Shooting Sports days, District Camporee, BALOO/IOLS training, etc. Council also lowered the costs for much of the Council level adult training.

Directly from the Barriers to Abuse FAQ: There are careers that may require one-on-one contact with youth, however aside from those roles, volunteers must abide by the youth protection policies of the BSA even outside of Scouting activities.

So how did at least 2 abusers get into my troop? - Did either have family in your troop? Were either former youth members of the troop? Not knowing the time frame, could also have been due to not having the background check system now in place; or could also have been due to having no prior record to show in a background check. Could also have been a case of a CoR just signing off on them without checking references. (although they would have to have been exceptionally stupid to list someone as a reference who would have incriminating information on them) How was one of them able to g

Not to be argumentative, but it is hard to say "The BSA had no safeguards in place for prevention period." While also saying "Anyone could be a volunteer unless the name you were using was in the files". The IVF may not have been the best system in the world, but it was an attempt to keep people out of the program. Fifty years ago we could not do the kind of background checks we can now. While I am sure that there were people who found a way around being in the IVF, there was no fool proof method back then of insuring it would never happen. I will not try to say that things were alway

The adult application currently has a box asking for "signature of chartered organization head or representative".

Not sure if this is someone who has not bothered to fully educate themselves on where things truly stand with the bankruptcy court; or as the last two sections imply, they are giving the impression that people in NJ can still file claims and join in the proceeding - particularly with the solicitation in the last paragraph not making it clear if they are referring to general claims or claims against BSA.