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MikeS72

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  1. Enjoyed reading the article, as this was my original council (15 years after the statue was dedicated).
  2. I have heard a bugler or three who could have been arrested for murdering musical notes!! 😋
  3. Based on his descriptions I would venture to say that VFC stands for Volunteer Fire Company.
  4. Unlike when the LDS units dropped and most of their membership left the UMC situation should be more of a change in CO status with most of those units and scouts remaining in the program. I am sure we will lose a few units and scouts, but not the mass drop in enrollment that some are fearing.
  5. Could be that your district has assigned someone due to the above statement. A unit of 90 Scouts that includes 20 girls is operating outside of the separate units for boys and girls rule.
  6. Here is the uniform standard for said national event (there have been enough things mentioned that I am 99.999% sure which event is being referenced. I also spoke to that 'former head of an airline' at length, and think he will do a fine job in his new postion within BSA): All conference participants and staff are to be in full field uniform at dinner and all evening shows. For breakfast, lunch, training sessions, day time and evening activities and events, participants and staff may wear a NOAC, OA or Scout t-shirt or golf shirt with their Scout shorts or trousers during the conference.
  7. Absolutely nothing; as long as you can run a fun and safe program and that is what your scouts choose to do. As @malrauxstated above it does require a lot of work, both by the youth and the adult volunteers. My troop has not done this in place of summer camp, but we have done a number of other full week programs.
  8. I have also seen scouters wearing that particular knot, and while not approved in my council I did speak to people who in casual conversation (I have never confronted anyone for wearing it) stated that their local council has approved it for uniform wear. While he is not a member of council I did happen to eat lunch at the same table as the young man wearing the tutu (although not the same day he wore it) and found him to be articulate and well spoken. I was well aware why he chose to wear the tutu the day he wore it and was not embarrased in the least by someone I only met and spoke wit
  9. Thank you. I was at said national event and several members of our contingent were able to attend due to said lodge scholarships.
  10. This is where we differ in addressing uniform issues. The uniform is one of the methods of scouting, it is not one of the aims. There is no rule stating that any scout must have a uniform in order to participate in any event. We have the BoR. While it is recommended that a scout wear the uniform to a BoR, or at least as much of it as he/she owns, a scout cannot and should not be denied if they are unable to obtain a uniform. As I stated earlier in this thread my scout and I are always in complete uniform for all activities. I can afford multiple uniforms and have no p
  11. Would this perhaps have been at the recent NOAC at UT Knoxville? I do recall seeing a young man from a different Lodge dressed like that, although not while wearing any part of the uniform. Did not look like most in attendance gave him more than a passing glance.
  12. My days as a scout were in the 60's when everyone in the troop was in a complete uniform for every activity and every troop meeting included a uniform inspection, so I fully understand the desire to see that type of uniforming by our current scouts. My uniform and that of my scout are complete down to the socks, everything is in the correct place and everyone in my unit, district and council is used to the fact that they will never see us incorrectly uniformed. I am not really sure what you are referring to as far as scouts or scouters dressing in an offensive, embarrassing and inappropr
  13. That is also the case in my council. We were informed last week that all UMC units have until Oct. 31 to complete the process of finding a new CO.
  14. Based on the illustration this is from some other Scout Association rather that BSA, most likely one of the European associations. I googled CWS cigarette cards and the only company I could find seemed to be Dutch.
  15. Unless something has changed in the last few weeks the UMC was very upfront during the webinar with them and national council that there would be no exceptions to what was in the negotiated affiliation agreement. As many councils do not want to go the council holds the charter route I am pessimistic about the future of scouting and the UMC.
  16. I have been both an Arrowman and an Eagle for more than half a century. Both were more rare back then than they are now, but I can honestly say that I have never known anyone who felt that being an Arrowman was a greater honor than being an Eagle. This one I will have to look up in the Guide to Inductions to see if there is any mention of putting someone on the ballot even if they object. I do know that I have seen Scouts left off of the ballot at their request on several occasions.
  17. Back in the day when OA was Scouting's honor camper society that was true. Today OA is officially Scouting's National Honor Society. Camping requirements are still a part of the selection process, but no longer the main emphasis. Units control who is eligible for election through the approval of the SM. Units select the date of the election within the time frame specified by the lodge and chapter. Procedures for how the elections are conducted are set by OA, and should be uniform nation wide. While an election team will tell the unit that if there are brand new crossovers who do n
  18. If you earned your Eagle in the 90's you will find that a lot of folks still wear that uniform. It is made of a different material (more comfortable) than the new uniform shirts. Other than that the biggest thing you will notice at just a glance is the brown buttons rather than the tan on the uniforms we currently have, along with saying Boy Scouts of America over the right pocket rather than the new BSA logo.
  19. As long as there is a lake for that flaming arrow to be extinguished in that can still be impressive, and I was the person shooting that arrow on several occasions (might not quite jib with the Outdoor Code or Leave No Trace though 😇). As for the face painting, I remember ceremonies in the 60's where the was not only face paint used but the team went through a couple of gallons of red body paint to mimic native coloration. Looking back now, I cannot believe we thought that was ok. One of the primary reasons we stopped using face paint was that a lot of it was copied from what those cere
  20. I do not usually respond to your posts as I see them a coming from a perspective that is decades old and may not fit well in today's wold. That being said, there is just some much here that is wrong on many levels, particularly that next to last sentence Native American youth comes from a family of drugs and alcohol. I feel for anyone who would make a comment like that, regardless of source.
  21. We do elections and call out in the fall, with our ordeal weekends in January. Helps keep them alive during the ordeal by not doing it in the Florida summer heat.😁
  22. We have a council fee, but our council uses it to be able to provide a number of activities at no additional charge to units. Things like district camporee, cub family camp, cub district shooting sports days, BALOO and IOLS training no longer have a fee associated with them. They also greatly reduced the fees for both NYLT and Woodbadge.
  23. As far a I am aware Mic-O-Say is limited to one council and one camp. Many of the complaints that I have seen raking OA over the coals for cultural insensitivity are actually accounts of Mic-O-Say and have had photos to show that. To the average outside person, there is no difference. In this day and age I do not see how it is still allowed to continue unchallenged by National.
  24. I have downloaded this to compare with the version released prior to the online webinar many of us attended on June 16th. Before I compare it line by line, has anyone else done that and if so, are there substantial differences or is this the same document? Also, is anyone else in a council who has said that they will not (at least at this time) be offering the option for the council to hold the charter? This is dated 6/29/2022 and we were told on 6/30 that our council wouild not (at this time) serve as CO for units currently chartered by the UMC.
  25. Cut and pasted directly from the pamphlet on scouting.org. I think that the OP is refering to the note at the bottom of page 204. (l) Using a .22 caliber rimfire rifle and shooting from a benchrest or supported prone position at 50 feet, fire five groups (three shots per group) that can be covered by a quarter. Using these targets, explain how to adjust sights to zero a rifle. (m)Adjust sights to center the group on the target* and fire five groups (five shots per group). According to the target used, each shot in the group must meet the following minimum score: (1) A-32 targets
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