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Pale Horse

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  1. Sorry for the slight derail. With the Church no longer chartering packs will the LDS method of promoting to next rank upon birthday continue (or be allowed)? Or will all Scouts be required to follow the more traditional approach of promotion at end of school year?
  2. Without trying to dredge up an argument on a 6 year old thread, a couple things stood out to me. *Disclaimer* I am not an expert on either award (especially the GSUSA Gold Award). These points are based on my current understanding, please correct me if I'm mistaken (I'm sure someone will). 1. Because of the nature on how BSA rank works vs GSUSA's advancement structure, you must include all the BSA rank requirements (including Scout-Life requirements) in reflecting on the full process of earning Eagle. 2. Is there really a Cookie requirement to earn Gold?
  3. We just booked Rock Enon. Really looking forward to it. Not so much the 7.5 hour drive.
  4. We're starting our popcorn season early. I'm sure everyone who's cool with Jason Mamoa Somoas will also like to purchase a bag of my Sofia Vergara Jalapeno Cheddar Cheese Popcorn. It's Hot, Hot, Hot! if I do say so myself. Sorry, the name isn't as catchy as Momoa Samoas, but at least she's fully dressed compared to the picture of him on the cookie box. Don't think mine violates any copyrights or trademarks either.
  5. These arguments always arise because of vague postings. OP, if you want meaningful responses then provide details about what happened.
  6. Thanks for the suggestion. This one's definitely in the running. I like the fact it's a true week-long experience, and not these 3 day ones that start on the evening of day 1 and end before noon of day 3 to avoid the 72 hour rule. Little bit of a road-trip from Michigan, but that's part of the adventure.
  7. I've seen this type of comment before. Some people seem to be operating under the impression they are subservient to the DE/District reps. They are in no position to dictate how you run your Pack events, or whether you are allowed to speak. Don't invite them to JSN, problem solved.
  8. Dude! Please tell me you're joking. Ranman328: Posts something. DavidCO: Quotes your post in his reply. Ranman328: "Tell me where I said that." lol
  9. I agree...that none of the above are Christmas movies. https://www.theodysseyonline.com/wonderful-life-isnt-actually-christmas-film
  10. I&P is definitely the right place for this thread, because Die Hard is NOT a Christmas movie. In order to be a Christmas movie, it needs to be about Christmas, or Christmas needs to be integral to the story. Just because a movie takes place near the holidays, doesn't cut it. In Die Hard, for example, the only thing "Christmasy" was that they were there for a Christmas party. Change it so that they were there celebrating "Nancy in Accounting's" retirement and the story is the same.
  11. I specifically wanted to focus on this line. How do you reconcile evolving church positions (even within the same denomination) on such topics as homosexuality, birth control, etc.? If it was wrong 50 years ago, how can they say it's ok now?
  12. Thanks for attempting, i'm not looking for the theoretic rationale on how we think each other thinks though. I'm more interested in an example of what an atheist believes is an example of right and wrong that varies from what a Theist believes. But as @Eagledadmentioned in an earlier post, something "big picture", something meaningful, not that eating meat on Friday is wrong, or working on a particular day of the week is taboo.
  13. Since you can't answer the 2 questions posed, I'll consider this discussion over. Due to lack of response, I submit that there is no difference in the views of Atheist and Theists in what is right and wrong. Further, the establishment of a benchmark to determine an "acceptable" level of Duty to God without a comparable Duty to Country benchmark is hypocritical to say the least.
  14. God doesn't change, just man's flawed interpretation of him? How is that any different? You accuse me of generalizing? How do I generalize? You're the one that's generalizing by saying atheist are somehow unable to determine right and wrong. So again, I ask...What do you think is different about what an Atheist believes is "right and wrong" and what a Theist believes to be "right and wrong"?  There is no consistent standard of god...standards vary by religion; even within the same religion there are wildly varying standards. Also, again...why set a religious benchmark, bu
  15. OK then, let's play this game... What do you think is different about what an Atheist believes is "right and wrong" and what a Theist believes to be "right and wrong"? "Big Picture" as you say, I'm pretty sure Atheists and Theists can both agree on right and wrong. Just as much as a Protestant and a Catholic could, I guess. Should we even bring up the Westboro Baptist Church? Just so sad that you'd gladly accept a member of that "church" to join, but are opposed to my family joining. So if the Oath and Law are sufficient, why do we need religion? How I fulfill my "
  16. Just like religions have a different definition of "the right thing to do." I could be wrong, but I'm not aware of any Scouts convening directly with their creator to know which version of the truth is right. What's more scary to me is that you feel Scouts, or people in general, don't have the ability to determine right and wrong without relying on a book.
  17. Option B, and it shouldn't be a "last resort"; it should be first step of next infraction. I understand not wanting to punish their kids, but in your efforts to keep these 2 Scouts from the problem families, the troop has lost more Scouts & Scouters. Allowing them to remain is going to kill your Troop...or any semblance of a youth-led patrol method Troop. Lay out the new rules for the parents, explain the rationale, and the consequences. Tell the problem parents that they have used up all their strikes; next offense and they will be shown the door.
  18. Even among Christians, all professed to believe in the same God, there is extreme subjectivity in what is constitutes appropriate thoughts, attitudes, and behaviour.
  19. In your opinion, is the Scouting experience diminished for those who choose the "no faith" version?
  20. So in your opinion, Scouts Canada, and Scouts UK isn't "real" Scouting? Getting so tired of hearing that atheists don't have a moral compass or that religious people have some moral superiority. It's possible to teach morals, values and duty to fellow man without believing in god. I'd much rather teach my son to help others because it's the right thing to do instead of being good out of fear that an invisible sky man is going to smite him.
  21. No, I would think not. I'm not familiar with how much discretion individual councils have in that regard either.
  22. The insane turnover rate is fueled, I'm sure, by the long hours and low pay. If they started investing in and rewarding quality DEs, the problem would solve itself.
  23. You do realize you don't need to be a Lone Scout to work on requirements outside of Den Meetings? Do the requirements, have your son talk to his Den Leader about them and get them signed off.
  24. Perfectly acceptable. To me, the disrespect to the ASM and pattern of behaviour is far worse, imo, than getting caught up for simple possession (I missed the fact he was selling).
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