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Posts posted by Chadamus

  1. 6 hours ago, fred8033 said:

    This thread is really about advancement function and whether an ASM can perform much of that role.  ... I'm not sure how we changed topics ... I suspect I'm the guilty party ...


    No worries, fred8033. Discussion is always good. As InquisitiveScouter pointed out, perhaps a thread of it's own would be a more appropriate place.

  2. 4 minutes ago, yknot said:

    Totally get it but we are facing a new paradigm with fewer adults available to be hands on. For the past ten years our units have completely blurred the lines because it's been all hands on deck. CM in name only. SM who are nonfunctional. Roles backfilled by Committee people. Committee roles unfilled so some other warm and willing body has had to step in even if it's been an ASM. The whole program/committee structure is very top heavy. It works very well when you have a lot of bodies. Not so well when you are lean. 

    This is not why I asked the initial question, but you bring up a good point, yknot. I know of several Units in my area where the lack of registered leaders results in some wearing multiple hats. Do they deliver the Scouting program the best they can or not at all? They do their best with what they have. And I'm Trustworthy of them while they do it.

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  3. 3 minutes ago, CynicalScouter said:

    That list ALSO includes unit treasurer. Do you REALLY think this authorizes the SM (unit position) to serve as unit treasurer (unit functional position) as well? The person spending the money gets to sign off on it with no independent review?


    Nope, bad idea. But I would say if the Treasurer isn't getting prior approval from the Committee, there's another problem altogether. 

  4. 1 minute ago, CynicalScouter said:

    Here's the problem with that: if the SM can start doing committee assignments (budget, advancement, etc.) you effectively have one person running everything. The committee is not suppose to be adversarial to the SM/ASM, but there has to be some group who is set apart. Again, I give the example of prohibiting ASMs from sitting on Boards of Review. 


  5. Page 15 of the Registration guidebook clearly states:

    "In addition to registered unit positions, the following functional duties or roles can also be assigned to registered adult leaders."

    This quote reads that a functional role (Advancement Chair) can also be held by a registered leader (SM, CC, etc.). There's no misreading that.


    Please don't misunderstand that I'm not trying to convince, but instead seeking clarification. Surely based on the the above one can see how there is clearly room for interpretation.

  6. Just now, CynicalScouter said:


    Advancement Chair is a committee position. No one can hold two positions in any unit EXCEPT the Chartered Organization Rep who can be both COR and on committee.



    Thanks, CynicalScouter. I read that article, but it doesn't convince me. It would be just as easy to argue that a Committee Member cannot be the Advancement Chair as that's two different positions. I completely understand that an Assistant Scoutmaster cannot be a Committee Member.

    Could a Committee Member be a Unit's Treasurer? Absolutely. Could the Unit's Treasurer also be an ASM? If the Unit has limited registered leaders, why not? So why not Advancement Chair?

  7. On 3/4/2020 at 7:56 PM, Chadamus said:

    $25.00 per unit, regardless of whether in-council or not.

    Didn't think to mention it at the time of my initial post, but I've always found it lovely that we can go out of our Central Georgia Council into the Northeast Georgia Council for summer camp and get an in-council rate.

    Close enough counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and peach-state camps apparently.

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  8. On 3/3/2020 at 9:49 AM, Eagledad said:

    I've been watching the BSA loose experience scouters to non experienced scouters for 30 years. I think it's the reality of the times. How can we teach inexperienced adults to use fun as the primary source for achieving all the other goals? It's a game with a purpose. Adults need to learn the game.

    Older (experienced) Scouts teach younger (inexperienced) Scouts.

    Experienced adults teach inexperienced adults.

    Easy peasy.

    If a Troop doesn't work that way, there's a problem. The lack of shared knowledge and experience need not be part of that problem.

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