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As a venturer I can tell you that tent visits do happen but not nearly as much as you think. Also not for the reasons you think either. I have known a few who hooked up but out of all the guys and girls I know in Venturing it is very few. 

If the Boy Scout disobeyed the parent instructions he’s not doing what the den leader wanted which is to protect and monitor the boys. Den chiefs are there to assist the den leader not replace them. I learned that in my den leader training. Either this scout and den leader are not trained or they are reading too much in to it. The den leader leads and the den chief assist. 

No. Cub Scouts require two-deep adult supervision. 

I’m 19 and I knew everything until I found out I didn’t. My dad tried to warn me but I knew he didn’t know anything until I found out it was me who didn’t. Missed one car payment and didn’t renew my plates. Two tickets and I learned an expensive lesson that my parents were way smarter than me. I’m learning again how to taxes with dad this weekend. I didn’t pay attention last year because I knew more then.  Thanks dad.

Yes. Especially if your opinion differs from theirs I have noticed. 

2 hours ago, Sentinel947 said:

Maybe I haven't kept up to date on the changes to the app, but wasn't the big selling point of the app when it launched was that it didn't save info to your phone?

 

Anything on SC can be gotten using various methods. 

34 minutes ago, Hawkwin said:

I don't necessarily disagree, but where do you draw the line? All of my local grocery stores sell liquor and cigs. Do we prohibit scouts from fundraising in front of (or inside of) such businesses?

We also fundraise at sporting events where alcohol is served (and where pot is consumed), do we avoid those locations as well?

I would not likely have made the same choice as this father and daughter but I also have difficulty passing judgment on them when I consider the fact that the store is legal in that state. It doesn't seem right for me to impose my morals on then from a state thousands of miles away - just like I don't think it would be right for me to impose my morals on what is right or wrong to do in another country where their government and citizens have already decided to legalize.

For me it’s pretty obvious that a weed or liquor or tobacco store would be wrong because scouts are supposed to refrain from such things. A scout is clean in mind and body. But a drug or grocery store would be okay because those are places that sell other things. Selling outside a bar would also be wrong but outside a restaurant would be okay. 

This thread reflect the us versus them theme from another thread where we have mods and non mods involved. It is about perception and morality. I don’t have kids but I wouldn’t want them selling cookies outside of any of these places. Why are they there in the first place but to take advantage of people with munchies. That’s just wrong. They shouldn’t be outside of liquor stores either. 

Or every former scout that lives in their area. 

You can’t be 11 or 12 or 13 and go to Philmont anyway. Crews follow the same rules and troops do now. If Venturing was coed but younger it would operate just like troops do today. There would be some events or things 12 year olds can’t do just like troops today. 

If something is dying out like districts why do we think bringing them back or recessitating them is a good thing. Maybe there is a better way and maybe it’s pods or maybe it isn’t. Things die for a reason and when they die all over at the same time that might be a sign that they don’t work anymore.  

There’s a troop north of me that meets in an airplane hanger at a regional airport. They have their own pilots room with all sorts of stuff. It’s like a club house. 

If you want to talk about how hard it is just ask any male on campus. We are assumed guilty in everything. People snark at you because of your race or religion. These are the same people wearing T-shirt’s or pins with all sorts of inclusive messages. They just don’t apply if you’re a male or white or catholic or Jewish or a frat member. Sad irony. 

12 minutes ago, JasonG172 said:

What would give you the Idea Venturing is going away?

My crew is actively out recruiting and many of the girls we talk to that are interested in scouting are holding off joining until they can go in to Boy scouts. 

29 minutes ago, HelpfulTracks said:

I think it is the other way around. Policy folks seem clear (or at least the ones I talked to), but the all of the online places that show your trained status are not up to date.

I just wonder if the lack of Venturing stuff means that it’s going away and the tech guys got the memo early. 

I wonder if the IT department is ahead of the policy people. 

22 minutes ago, Hawkwin said:

 

“Give me enough medals and I’ll win you any war”

If giving people a $0.50 piece of cloth inspires them to financially support a critical organization, who am I to judge either party.

But when all the other knots are for achievements you cheapen the whole process by giving a knot for giving money. Sure give a plaque or something. But why give a knot. That’s my point. 

Knots are supposed to be achievements not purchases. Sends the wrong message. Want to donate $1000 then donate and get your plaque. A knot for this is a participation trophy that you buy. 

21 minutes ago, WisconsinMomma said:

I've looked at this, isn't it interesting?   I don' t have any knots, but I could Buy-A-Knot with a $1,000+ donation to our Council.  It is a little weird, but I don't see it as bad.  Donors should be thanked, and everybody likes bling.  

I don’t like bling I don’t earn. Why would someone wear bling they pay for? That’s like participation trophies. What fun. 

14 minutes ago, WisconsinMomma said:

Oh baloney.  We are going to our library's wine tasting party next month and sponsoring a table.  (It's not very expensive to do so.)   A local liquor store and their vendors donate all the wine and spirits, and local restaurants donate all the food, and it's a wonderful event, and the names of the donors are on the tables.  It's a great way to do fundraising.  Some charitable giving is quiet, other giving is not quiet.  Neither is wrong.

What you describe is a charity fundraiser. What describes is a charitable gift. Those are two distinctly different things. Giving to pbs and getting a towel is not the same as just sending them $100 without getting anything. 

Camper nights would be treated like cabin nights for OA though. 

Would adults be in their camper too?

There’s a knot for giving money? What message does that send to scouts. 

In our church the youth groups leave the common areas a shambles. When I was spl we got blamed a lot before I took over. We started taking before and after pictures of the meeting rooms and common areas just to show how clean we leave it. We sent them to the office manager to show her how well we were doing. Not one word of thanks. The youth groups were never told to be better either. This lasted the whole year. Half way through my term I also sent the reports to the head pastor. The committee chair didn’t like it but my sm supported me. The head pastor came to my last coh as spl to thank the troop and me for doing what we do. It didn’t change how the office staff treated us but we knew at least he appreciated our efforts. To this day the spls still send him the monthly pictures. 

Don’t some units use a friends of status? I’ve been told that using that status allows them to register and file as a nonprofit. Don’t know if that’s true. 

My old sm looked in to this with out plc. In our council only the council could to Amazon smile.