Cyclops, Hopefully I caveated things enough to get my meaning across! I think there are some specific circumstances under which taking WB could be a good choice for some people. I want BSA to change WB from a discrete course to a modular training scheme like the UK Scouts (a different thread I started yesterday)--perhaps with a weekend WB capstone course. If WB can really make a difference, we need to figure out a way everyone can do it. If most don't take it, what difference does it make to most Scouts, and why do we invest more heavily in it than any other locally-administered course?