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    Women and siblings on campouts

    Unless they are Webelos, I have never had good experiences with siblings attending, except 1 family camp out. As a youth, the accompanying siblings ruined a trip we had planned for a year, and caused damage at the facility we were staying out so we never even thought of going back because of them. We never had another family camp out until all of the youth at the time had aged out. No one ever wanted a repeat of that experience. Even when my own son was a Webelos, I had some challenges with him. First time they were major, and I had to step away to deal with him instead of dealing with the Scouts. Siblings can be a major distraction. Understatement.Some of you know from other posts how two sets of parents who wanted a continuation of Cub Scouts caused me and my sons to leave a troop, and nearly destroyed it. Despite the Scouts and a few Scouters complaining, it took me leaving before the rest of the Scouters to see the problem, and the CO to finally put their foot down and intervene. I am told the troop is doing a lot better now. Key questions to remember when in the situation: "Have you asked your PL?" And if they are the PL, " Have you asked your SPL?" Unfortunately after oldest's term as a PL, I could no longer ask those two questions. The troop elected him SPL, and I had to deal with him.
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    Privacy of Health Forms

    I agree with full medical disclosure for everyone, adults and youth alike. I had someone going into shock while taking him to the hospital. I wish I had the form with me to answer questions when I got to the hospital. Camp medic still had the form. I could not answer any thing they asked me, and he was not 100% there due to shock. Thankfully he was aware enough to give them a phone number and his parents were able to help. Compare that to when I had to got the the ER, my form answered a lot of their questions. As an adult who has taken responsibility for those forms for summer camp, I freely admit I go over every single one. I am making darn sure that all the i's are dotted and t's crossed. Had an incident one year where the parent did not approve the administration of over the counter drugs (Advil, Pepto-Bismal, etc). Thankfully they drove us to the camp and were still around to sign it. Otherwise no one would be able to give him anything if he got sick. I am not trying to find out anything, and in fact do not remember anything other than whether the things I am looking for are signed or not. Oh and to make sure we have all three parts ( one year a mom sent in only Parts A and B. Thankfully we had a physician in the troop who gave him a physical right before we left!) While I do see the day coming in which out the forms will no longer be needed, it won't happen for a while. With everything going to Electronic Medical Records (EMRs), once the different systems are integrated into each other, anyplace you go you will have access to a patients records. As it is right now, any facility using the EPIC EMR has access to anyone who has an EPIC record. So if you are in California and go to the ER there, that ER has all of your EPIC records recorded from your primary care physician in South Carolina, and vice versa.
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    Webelos - Participation as Den After the Cross

    I am with @ParkMan . I am against it, because I have seen Scouts participate in Cub siblings' events AS IF THEY ARE STILL CUB SCOUTS (emphasis) and those Scouts had major issues acting as Scouts at their own events. They still depended on adults and not try and take care of themselves. It slows down their development.
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    Women and siblings on campouts

    Can you provide more details?
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    NATIONAL POLICY: AOL and Crossover Ceremonies

    Sadly, the 63 old fogeys (60 Scouters and 3 Professionals) of the National OA COmmittee seem to be ignoring the youth as every single youth I have talked to HATED the new scripts (caps, bold, etc for emphasis). And if you are doing these ceremonies as the OA national requires you to use their new skits ceremonies. My chapter will no longer do those ceremonies. Correct National OA Committee no longer wants Native American references in the OA AOL and Cross Over Ceremonies. Still allowed for the rest of the ceremonies. HOWEVER many noted the absence of Native American ceremonies at the last NOAC shows. In fact the only reference to Native American culture was the AIA powwow and show. One of the challenges is that the OA has used NA images and references since 1915. And when it is done properly it is a thing of beauty that inspires and motivates. I had a troop working on Indian Lore borrow my regalia and did one of the old scripts, leaving out references to OA. You could literally hear a pin drop at the meeting because everyone was interested in the "Indians." Try keeping Lions and Tigers quiet and paying attention for 20-30 minutes!
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    NATIONAL POLICY: AOL and Crossover Ceremonies

    Looks like folks in my neck of the woods are asking individuals to do these ceremonies as NO ONE (emphasis) like the new national scripts and the local chapter refuses to due them as they are embarrased just reading them. I am a Southern Straight dancer and was just asked if I could do a ceremony for an event.
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    Solutions to letters falling off?

    My wife embroiders. She did mine and two of the hoodlums shirts.
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    They are MY Scouts.

    Question for the long time Scouters out here, do you consider the Scouts you worked with YOUR Scouts even 5, 10, 20+ years after working with them? I mentioned a few months back how I had one Eagle come and stay with me a few days. He's a "Nomad," converting a UHaul truck into a mobile office and apartment. He's driving all over the US and I keep up via Facebook. Last time I saw him was 21 years ago. I visited another Eagle when I went home for a few days. Wasn't a long visit, but it brought back memories and we were able to catch up on folks we knew and had not heard from. Again it was 21 years since I last saw him. Last night it really hit. One of my Eagles got married, and I was at the wedding. At the reception, I ran into his dad, who also was an ASM with me. We spent over 20 minutes catching up, no only on what we have been doing, but also on our Scouts. We mostly discussed the good things in our Scouts' lives: graduations, marriages, jobs and promotions, children, etc. Negative events were not mentioned, but from the tone, we both keep up with those as well: divorces, deaths, etc. It seemed as if no matter where they go, or how old they become, we both consider them "My Scouts."
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    Webelos - Participation as Den After the Cross Over

    Sadly, unless they are shooting at targets, it is not allowed. Unauthorized and Restricted Activities Q. Is laser tag an approved activity? A. Scout units may plan or participate in paintball, laser tag, or similar events where participants shoot at targets that are neither living nor human representations. Please review additional information located in the Unauthorized and Restricted Activities section of the Guide to Safe Scouting.
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    Youth Protection Clarification Question

    Not just in an online forum. It is an extremely fine balancing act. Especially when you personally agree with the volunteers. Or have never been involved until hired. Extremely frustrating when policies are made by folks with academic credentials and no Scouting credentials.
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    BSA definition of the Patrol Method

    Also, does anyone else find it coincidental that the Patrol Method truly died just before the introduction of girls into the program? After 108 years, we can no longer trust the boys?
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    Lifeguard vs Aquatics Supervisor

    I know when I did the Aquatics Supervision courses, we were drilled on SSD and SA every day. For me and a few others 2x a day since we were taking both courses. But yes, skills are gone over and over. Lots of drills. For those with little to no experience it is great.For those with some experience, great refresher.
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    BSA definition of the Patrol Method

    Sadly the Patrol Method is dead as of October 1, 2018. It was injured back in 2012 or thereabouts when National no longer permitted Patrols to camp on their own without adults. But the death knell was October 1, 2018 when the new YP policies went into effect that require 2 adults over 21 to be in attendance.
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    Youth Protection Clarification Question

    With all due respect, having 2 adults over 21 attending patrol day activities is indeed new. Prior to October 1st, 2018, patrols could do patrol day activities WITHOUT ANY ADULTS (emphasis). So having 2 adults over 21 attend patrol meetings, hikes, field trips, etc is new, and as I stated goes against 108 years of policy. Also something not covered by the FAQs: What happens if the MBC is in the 18-20 year old range? Will 2 adults over 21 be required, whether both registered or 1 registered and 1 parent? That is indeed a serious question and one I am being asked about by a troop.
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    Youth Protection Clarification Question

    The reason why there is confusion is the below found here https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/yp-faqs/#as Adult Supervision Q: The Barriers to Abuse say that there must be two registered adults present for all Scouting activities and meetings. Does that include merit badge counseling? Fund-raising events? A. Yes. However, the parent or legal guardian of the Scout may serve as the second adult. This parent or legal guardian does not have to be a registered leader. The question then arises, if parents counts towards MB counseling and fundraising, why not other events? Also as others have pointed, the new policy goes against 109 years of BSA Policy.