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    Completed MB?

    This situation happened with my oldest when he attended his first, and only, MB College. He was given a MB. I found out about it when I asked him about it. In the discussion with him I found out he completed NONE (emphasis) of the current requirements. Looking back at previous requirements for the MB, I discovered the MBC was using 10 year old requirements, AND still was not doing all of the old requirements. It took a while to make him understand, but he decided to hold off on getting the MB until he actually earned it. Since he started with older requirements, his SM and the two of us decided to let him use those requirements to finish. and in all honesty 2/3 of the missing requirements were still in use. He earned the MB 2 months later, and the SM sent a letter to council about the situation. What is ironic is that the situation I talked to him about, a Scout being given a MB that my actually earned or was working on, occurred. And just as in my example, My son was steamed about the situation. He now refused to even complete the partial because of the gimme. He says it is not worth it.. My advice would be 1) Have a second adult with you when you talk to the Scout and his dad. 2) Ask him about the requirements again, and also show the paperwork the other Scouts did to show he didn't truely earn it. 3) Come up with a plan with him to finish the missing requirements. 4) If this will cause problems with the rest of the troop, and I have seen it happen when done, I would give him the MB, and a copy of his records to search for a troop that will better serve the Scout since the dad does not approve of how you are working with the Scouts. It may seem harsh, but I have seen what giving advancement away can do to a troop. It is not pretty.
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    "Unofficial uniform"

    National was looking into that a few years back. It was even tested in 1 council. It didn't work because just buying the individual rank shirts, eaht rank got it's own t shirt, was more expensive than the current uniform.
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    "Unofficial uniform"

    Regarding the reason for the split, I'm just giving a summary of what the then national director of Venturing told us in the spring of 1998, just before it was announced. As for the uniforms, well that is what my supply division boss told me. They could be wrong though.
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    "Unofficial uniform"

    Here is the actual truth on why Venturing crews can choose their own uniform: when Venturing split from Exploring in 1998, it was so sudden that no uniforms were in existence. Here is the background. Someone sued a police department for discrimination when they could not join a Law Enforcement Explorer Post. It went to court and BSA lost. BSA rushed to separate traditional Sea Explorer Ships, High Adventure Explorer Posts and Religious based Explorer Posts from the Career Oriented Explorer Posts. So Career Oriented Explorer Posts like Law Enforcement, Aviation, and Fire and Rescue remained Exploring under the BSA's Learning for Life subsidiary. Sea Explorers became Sea Scouts once again, and HA and Religious based Explorers became Venturers. There was no uniform available. In fact National made a bunch of Venturing, BSA name taps to be added to the green Explorer shirts, but no Venturing socks or shorts came out for a year afterwards in 1999, and the pants came out 2 years after Venturing split off in 2000. I got a hold of a Venturing BSA name tape when I was at the 1998 All Hands Conference, and never put it on. I wore my green Exploring shirt so much in 2 years of summer camps, that the shirt was faded enough that the name tape did not match in color.
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    First Aid Kit

    Whatever you put in it, make sure several people in the group know how to use it. One unit I was with was given an EMT kit and had supplies in it that only a few folks knew how to use. I also prefer the make your own kits. As others stated you can add more of what you will commonly use. I would not take less though. When I created my FAKs, I used the BSA's WFA kit recommendations and added to it. One thing i would add is some type of electrolyte powder. While I kept bottle of Gatorade in the fridge at Cub day camp, not practical hiking or backpacking. But those packets of powder are extremely handy. I had to use them twice in the past year. From the BSA Wilderness First Aid Guidelines pages 41 and 42 found here https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/680-008.pdf Guidelines for First-Aid Kit Contents Some of the items listed below require advance training before use (e.g., SAM splints, hemostatic dressing, and tourniquets). Personal Kit • Adhesive bandages (6) • Sterile gauze pads, 3-by-3-inch (2) • Adhesive tape (1 small roll) • Moleskin, 3-by-6-inch (1) • Soap (1 small bar) or alcohol-based hand sanitizing gel (1 travel-sized bottle) • Bacitracin ointment (1 small tube) • Scissors (1 pair) • Nonlatex disposable gloves (1 pair) • CPR breathing barrier (1) • Tweezers (1) • Pencil and incident report forms 42 Wilderness First Aid Curriculum and Doctrine Guidelines Group Kit • Kerlix/Kling (or equivalent), 3-inch rolls (2) • Coban self-adhesive bandage, 2-inch roll (1) • Adhesive tape, 1-inch rolls (2) • Alcohol pads (12) • Betadine pads (12) • Assorted adhesive bandages (1 box) • Elastic bandages, 3-inch-wide (2) • Sterile gauze pads 4-by-4-inch (12) • Moleskin, 3-by-6-inch (4) • Gel pads for blister and burns (2 packets) • Bacitracin ointment (1 tube) • Hydrocortisone cream, 1percent (1 tube) • Triangular bandages (4) • Soap (1 small bar) or alcohol-based hand sanitizing gel (1 travel-sized bottle) • Scissors (1 pair) • Tweezers (1 pair) • Safety pins (12) • Nonlatex disposable gloves (6 pairs) • Protective goggles/safety glasses (1 pair) • CPR breathing barrier (1) • Pencil and paper Optional Items • Instant cold compress • Space blanket • Original size SAM Splint • Hemostatic wound dressings • Tourniquet When I come back from church and remember to get my kit out of the car, I'll post what ECSI recommends in their WFA kit. And as others mentioned, have a paper list of everything with an expiration date and check often. BUT DO NOT THROW AWAY THOSE OUT OF DATE SUPPLIES IF USABLE FOR FIRST AID TRAINING! Me department has a bunch of out of date supplies secured in a training classroom.
  6. In my county,we currently have a GSUSA troop of 2 members. The group started out with a much larger number when they were brownies, and slowly dropped. The 2 girls are both legacies, and both moms are leaders. Sole purpose is to get Gold now. As others commented, it appears the majority of GSUSA units do not camp. Even a national GSUSA leader commented how 10-15% of their members will go on a weekend camp out once a year. I know the girls only troop consists of former GSUSA members. All left because they didn't camp. In fact all the girls have brothers in Scouting, and camped with their families while the brothers were in Cub Scouts.
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    Real estate donation

    We have the same situation in my council. As long as the Scouts use the camp, it's ours. Once upon a time a someone mentioned in the article I cited was considering selling the camp. He was not investing anything into that camp, and it was maintained solely by individual troops and the OA chapters that use the camp the most. Consideration for selling it abruptly ended, and it was left to benign neglect. Story I heard is the camp is held in trust, and it reverts to the family if we stop using it. Glad we got it as it is the only Scout camp that Cubs can do boating activities at. The other ones are on a river.
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    Real estate donation

    1) Get local legal advice. 2) Whatever you do, DO NOT GIVE IT OUTRIGHT TO AN ORGANIZATION! (caps for emphasis) I say that because camps are being sold. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2006-02-12-0602120249-story.html My former boss is in this one In Texas, the Three Rivers Council convinced the nonprofit Stark Foundation to waive deed restrictions in 2001 to allow the sale of Camp Bill Stark, a 132-acre pine woodland near Beaumont.Lutcher Stark had donated the land some 70 years earlier, specifying it be used for a camp. Scouting officials said they couldn't afford to maintain it, and promised to use sale proceeds to improve another camp. But once released from the deed restriction, they sold the land to an investment firm, and most of it was immediately clear-cut.Foundation Chairman Walter Riedel III, an Eagle Scout, said scout leaders assured foundation officials that part of the woodland would be preserved as a camp."Being a scout - I expected them to do the right thing and be honest with us and I'm not real sure that happened," Riedel said.Former executive Jack Crawford, who no longer works for the scouts, declined comment.[NOTE by Eagle94-A1: Crawford left TX to become a field director in NC. While he is still employed by the BSA, he has been a FD for 17+ years now. At least he isn't getting promoted]
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    So it Begins: Great Salt Lake Council lays off 21 employees

    Didn't know BYU had that one too. Another one of the guys in my PDL-1 class had that degree, just didn't know where he got it. And from him describing the courses he took, I did 95% of that degree as a volunteer and youth. Snow Sports topics were the ones I've never done.
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    So it Begins: Great Salt Lake Council lays off 21 employees

    BYU has a offers a minor in Nonprofit Management that was specifically designed to produce DEs. One of the guys in my PDL-1 class went there.
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    Scouter needs advise

    I am not going to lie, it will be a challenge. BUT you will have a greater impact and make a bigger difference.
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    Cyber Chip

    I don't know whose guideline it was, but since none of the councils in my area, I am on the border of 2 plus my own, offer LNT Trainer Courses, if you wanted to take it, you had to look elsewhere. And most of those places wanted 18+.I think i found 1 place offering it for 16+, but it was out of state if memory serves. And I agree with you on youth leadership..
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    Cyber Chip

    I agree 110%. Kinda like what National did with the Leave No Trace Trainer youth POR. In order to be a LNT Trainer, you had to go through their training. And few places wanted 16-17 year olds in the class. most wanted 18+
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    Advice for a new wood badger

    Sadly I've encountered those folks. Their attitude is that if you don't wear beads, you don't know squat. Doesn't matter how long you been involved with the movement. Doesn't matter what you have done in the movement. No Beads= no knowledge. Irony is that if these hijinks were done by Scouts, they would be in serious trouble.
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    2019 GUIDE TO SAFE SCOUTING

    GREAT! Now can you remove the sentence that is incorrect fro the FAQ?
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    2019 GUIDE TO SAFE SCOUTING

    Could you remove the inaccurate statement that " Dodgeball has never been an authorized activity in Scouting." from the FAQ please? After all it was an approved game in 1989's Woods Wisdom book as shown here http://www.magnificentsevens.org/docs/Resources/Planning/WoodsWisdom.pdf as well as the Troop Program Resources found here https://troop577wichita.weebly.com/uploads/1/1/2/2/11225514/woods_wisdom_troop_program.pdf AND is currencly listed as an approved game on BSA's own website https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/Games.pdf A Scout is Trustworthy after all.
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    2019 GUIDE TO SAFE SCOUTING

    I didn't know it was prohibited either, especially since it is listed inthe Troop Program Resources Book found here https://troop577wichita.weebly.com/uploads/1/1/2/2/11225514/woods_wisdom_troop_program.pdf I guess these fundraisers are no more. https://www.samhoustonbsa.org/dodgeball https://www.danbeard.org/pln-dodgeball-challenge/ https://michiganscouting.org/dodgeball/ https://www.scnow.com/news/local/article_0162e6ba-d563-5e4b-8398-461c21842a13.html
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    BSA Youth Advisory Panel

    That's because surveys lead to statistics. And
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    BSA Youth Advisory Panel

    Maybe I am a pessimist, but why would they listen to the Scouts and Venturers on anything, when they do not even listen to the Scouters who volunteer their time and treasure to the program? Don't believe me, well there is the "Instapalm" survey of 2015 in which 94% were either against (18%) or strongly against (76%) the idea, and they did it anyway.
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    Help With Internet Advancement

    Before I had IA access, I would HAND DELIVER (not shouting, emphasizing) paperwork to the council office and pick up awards. When I finally got IA access, it was a month before my oldest crossed over into a troop. NO ONE IN THE PACK HAD ANY ADVANCEMENT RECORDED! I was in on a council meeting about advancement and I brought up this issue. Told it never happened. And I was never invited back to that meeting. While IA2.0 is a royal P.I.T.A. for the sake of our youth I deal with it.
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    Dwindling Numbers

    Joke in my troop growing was the following: "Government surplus, if it is designed to survive combat, it MAY survive Boy Scouts." Forgot to add, I am still using my used A.L.I.C.E. pack I got back in 1988/89. Oldest has used it too.
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    Help With Internet Advancement

    My understanding is that Internet Advancement 2.0 is only compatible with Scoutbook since BSA took it over.
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    historic trails patch

    It is a temporary patch, so it is worn on the right pocket.
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    BSA designates Philmont as a "No Adventure Base"

    "Family Scouting" creep is a major concern for me. Some folks do not care about boundaries. I've seen what a 5 year old Lion can do to a patrol at camporee. Add in his helicopter parents, and life was miserable for the Scouts. Add to it that Dad was so focused on 5 year old Lion that he didn't honor the commitment he made to running an event ,affecting not just a patrol, but every single Scout attending the event, as well as the adults he had to ask to take over the event, which happened to be that morning. Heck I've seen how an 11 y.o. "Family Scouting" Scout affected the entire patrol. Ignoring directions from SPL and PL, running off when work was to be done, hanging out with family instead of doing stuff with his patrol, abandoning his tentmate to sleep with parents. So I am concerned.
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    BSA designates Philmont as a "No Adventure Base"

    I don't know the specifics as I cannot afford PTC, but if you are correct AND they are out of the way of the trekkers, that is one thing. They just need to stay way from the trekkers until they get back to base camp. But yes, I got concerns.
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