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Everything posted by Eagle94-A1

  1. I think you meant ASM. JASM is a youth POR for 16-17 year old Scouts. Once they are 18, they are an adult, and an ASM. And yes, they usually carry a lot more weight in the younger Scouts eyes than us old fogeys.
  2. Especially with all the changes that occurred in June 2015 and December 2016. Cub Scouts is a completely different program now.
  3. None whatsoever. Instead of people with experience in the program they either look for warm bodies who get promoted, or folks with academic credentials. When I worked for national supply, my boss started off as a warm body, a sales clerk, and gradually moved up to manager. But the boss has 0 field experience in the program. When she hired me to be part of a trial program, it was because I had experience in the field and working summer camp. Every single proposal she questioned because she had no idea how summer camp operates. When I tried to explain why I suggested things, I was ignore
  4. For the moment I am in. Middle Son is Life and Youngest is Second Class, and wants to be an Eagle after seeing Oldest Son's court of honor. Plus my Scouts need me., especially since we are a small troop and every active adult is needed. BUT, "always in motion, the future is." . IF BSA becomes "Family Scouting," we are gone. The last troop I was in turned into that, and it caused major problems that you can read about if your wish. Both sons involved in that troop were seriously affected by "Family Scouting," and I will not put the older two through that experience, nor have the young
  5. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-18/boy-scouts-aim-to-settle-95-000-abuse-claims-before-cash-crunch?utm_source=google&utm_medium=bd&cmpId=google
  6. There is info out there. SCOUT'S HONOR by Patrick Boyle is one book. It is from 1994. so it is "old," but it covers the time period the lawsuit is coming from. That is the one I remember of the top of my head. I wish I had all my stuff from undergrad, cause I did a paper on this topic. Sadly the stuff I kept got thrown away after Katrina.
  7. My thoughts. #1 Looks like Kosnoff is vying to take over as lead attorney against the BSA in this case, and he will get his wish for the complete dissolution of the BSA. #2 Regarding the name change, I do not know. I do know we need change at the National Office. Kosnoff is right, BSA did not handle the bankruptcy process correctly IMHO. #3 Corporate donors are gone and will not be coming back. They have moved on, and the current negative publicity would hurt them, even with a name change. #4 I think BSA has been looking at family camping since before allowing girls, hence
  8. If memory serves, some time in the 1970s, National agreed to take responsibility for councils liability insurance in exchange for councils paying into the insurance fund. Just as national promised to protect COs, they also promised to protect councils.
  9. Actually what I find sad and deeply ironic is that the only legal way to protect youth the BSA had time before mandatory reporting laws, the Ineligible Volunteer Files, is now being used to show they knew abuse was prevalent and should have been reported using todays legal standards, and not he legal standards of the time.
  10. From the article and doing the math, the 93 year old suing the BSA was abused sometime between 1936 when he was 9 years old and 1944 when he was 18. That is over 80 years ago. Folk involved are long dead, including the parents who would have made the decision to press charges or not. And from my research many parents chose not to.
  11. If I seem pessimistic about this topic, it is because I have seen a lot of fudging over the years in multiple councils. And it seems as if National turns a blind eye to the matter until forced to look. Does R. Holmes and Greater AL Council ring a bell? From experience and talking to pros over the years, DE WILL be pressured to short cut the process and get those units and numbers. Doing things the correct way does indeed work. But you may only get 1 new unit a year out of it. And most SEs and DFSs want more. You may have a few councils, and it sounds like yours is one of them, that may d
  12. While it is not dumb to encourage strategies to increase membership, setting quotas is because it WILL (emphasis) lead some professionals to cut corners, have creative membership numbers, ghost units, ad nauseum. You will have some unscrupulous pros who will do whatever it takes to meet these quotas. I hate to be pessimistic, but have seen it as a volunteer and as a professional. It does happen.
  13. Sadly the professional overreach is real in my area. When I was a DE. my SE and DFS were telling me I needed to get rid of folks because they did not toe the line with them. I told them we needed the best people for the job, even if they didn't agree 110%, and that some of their ideas I thought were valid ones. That also did not go well. In the 17 years i have been back in my old district, only 1 SE did not push volunteers out of the way. When he left, a lot of folks got sidelined because they disagreed with the pros. Others got so frustrated with the overreach, they resigned from district/cou
  14. I know all to well. Reason for not fixing core issues is variety of issues. First and foremost it takes too long. Creating a program takes several years. Majority of pros only care about the here and now due to the pressure to meet goals. Plus more and more Pros have little to no experience in the Movement. They have no idea what Scouting is suppose to be like. Heck, I found out that Pros are no longer required to do any program training, i.e. DL, CM, Pack Committee (Cub Scout Basic Leader in my day), SM Specific and IOLS (SM Fundamentals in my day), or Venturing Leader Specifi
  15. Didn't National give out recruitment goals back in the 1980s and 1990s and some pro came up with "creative ways" of meeting those goals? The powers that be do not appear to have a clue what is going on.
  16. Well I found my answer in the GUIDE TO ADVANCMENT, and of course it is doublespeak. Page 16 has the answer, and the doublespeak is bolded If a new or revised rank or Eagle Palm requirement is introduced in a reprinting of the Scouts BSA Handbook after the annual release of the Scouts BSA Requirements book, then the Scout has until the following December 31 to decide what to do. The Scout may continue—or begin work—using the old requirements, or may switch to—or begin work—using the new requirements. Any Scout who chooses to use the old requirements may continue using them until the
  17. My concern is the 5 month transition period. Most advancement changes, except for the Cub Scout December 2016 which were made easier than the June 2015 changes, have had a 1 year phase in, not a 5 month phase in. Depending upon the requirements, especially if their is a 90 day period involved, this will affect many Scouts, especially those girls who are on the Eagle extension.
  18. For the most part you are right, rule changes are minor. But the October 1, 2018 changes effectively killed the Patrol Method in everything but name. No more patrol meetings when the Scouts are available, but the adults are not. No more day activities like hikes, fishing, grocery shopping, etc without adults. And 18 to 20 year olds no longer count towards 2 deep. That has affected many troops. National acknowledge this fact by changing the implementation date from March 2018, 'Effective Immediately" to October 2018, several months AFTER summer camp and HA base season. I had a conversatio
  19. Scouts definitely need consistency, otherwise it will be a challenge, especially for the older ones. Having the right person as SM is must because the SM is the one that leads the troop culture. And a radical shift in culture will cause major problems. I have seen units with smooth transitions. One unit's transition was so smooth, the Scouts did not realize the SM had stepped down for family and health reasons. Wasn't discovered until planning for a court of honor which would have the formal announcement. But I have also seen very rough transitions because the new SM changed the cult
  20. There are several things relating to BSA's rules that drive volunteers nuts. First and foremost there is no one place find them all. Multiple publications cover different aspects of Scouting, and contradictions abound. Over the years, I have posted examples of these contradictions in BSA publications. Best example was when YPT2 came out, and a month later new YP rules went into effect, contradicting the new training. Another problem is BSA changes the rules on an extremely irregular basis, and the word gets out months after the fact, unless it is a big deal and it gets on social medi
  21. By any chance LDS? I know the LDS church use to appoint Scouters. And they averaged about that long. 1 year, the local LDS troop went through 3 SMs.
  22. My challenge is that my wife has asked me to NOT be the SM until after all three of my boys are done in Scouting. Oldest will be out by then, and middle son will be 16+, and the way he' is going will be Eagle prior to that. But the youngest, the most challenging one, will only be 14.
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