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Eagle94-A1

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  1. Not all camps sold were "marginal." I know of one camp that until council shut it down for 9 months, was subsidizing the other 2 camps the council owned. Why sell it you ask? The camp was prime real estate, despite what the court appointed appraiser listed, and the PTB wanted the money. That camp paid the council's share of the lawsuit, and then some. And of course all the equipment that the OA and others had donated over the years was taken away while the camp was still in use. Heck the council took equipment that did not belong to them, stuff that volunteers owned and were using to maintain
  2. Actually it is the reverse. Many shops are actually "council distributorships" meaning they are council owned and they have council employees running things. National shops actually rent space from the council and national pays the workers.
  3. (sarcasm on) My council should be rolling in the dough. They sold one camp for over 10x the court appraised value, and that paid more their share of the settlement. (sarcasm off) Unfortunately councils will pass on their costs to the Scouts, making it more prohibitive for some folks. And some council are in denial about mergers. I am a rumor-monger for bringing that up at a public meeting. Funny thing is, so far all my "rumors" are turning out to be true. For that I am thankful to everyone here. I get more accurate and timely info here than in my council. Heck I found out abo
  4. If the answers go against their thinking, they will ignore the results. Look at Instapalms are the best example of National ignoring the volunteers polled.
  5. Actually in one set of court documents, National plans to reduce the number of councils by 2/3s.
  6. Folks, Dopes anyone know anything about the "special pathway to Eagle Scout for those whose journey was interrupted during their time in Scouting?" I have a Scouter who is a CSA survivor, and quit after being assaulted. He was not involved in the lawsuit as he did not beleive BSA was liable and his assailant has been dead a while now.
  7. THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And yes I am screaming in Joy at ya! I want justice for victims.
  8. I will believe it when I see it.
  9. Yes, National and Councils will not advertise competition. heck I am surprised https://www.highadventurescouting.com/council.html exists because it is in direct competition with with the 4 national HA bases. Back in the day, the International Division could help out with International Letters of introduction, national Scout organization info, and restricted international swag, i.e. BSA international neckerchiefs, jacket, slides, and if you earned it World Crest (pre-1990), International Activity Badge, International Youth Exchange Badge, or the current International Spirit Award. B
  10. I do not know who did the appraisals, but one camp they seriously undervalued. When I told folks how much the appraisal was for, they were extremely shocked because their nearby properties were a lot less land, and valued at a heck of a lot more. When they listed the property, it was 5 times the appraisal price. And as i stated, the sale price was more than 10 times the appraisal price because of a bidding war.
  11. Stupid question: what happens to the excess money from sales? I know my council made 10x the appraised value of one camp they sold, and made at least 4x what their contribution from property sales was supposed to be. Here is the funny thing. The unit volunteers were told none of the money from the camps' sales was going to the lawsuit. A former exec board member, when I told him what the unit serving were told stated "That is not what they told us (exec board)." (sarcasm on) I love my council (sarcasm off)
  12. Are the council's any better? In all honesty, the only ones who are doing anything to support units at the council are the support staff; registrar, office manager, secretaries, and shop employees.
  13. Those were the days. When answering the question in the Eagle Project Workbook, "what did you learn from your project?" his response was "Paperwork will suck the joy out of anything you love." (bold for emphasis)
  14. Don't remind me. And while he was very personable when he got to talk in his interview, dad seemed to be the primary mover.
  15. I do not know when an "Eagle Advisor" position was created, but I am guessing within the last 15 years. So My questions is, what did folks do when advice was needed for the project before the advisor position was created? I went to my SM.
  16. THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  17. Concur 100% You can read about some of the challenges I've encountered with one troop. At first manageable, but with new families coming in, gto to the point I back out. Kids said hey were having fun, but both wife and I noticed changes in personality. Scouting was slowly becoming frustrating, instead of fun for them. Getting away to a new troop that was Scout led helped tremendously,
  18. in 2020, Form 990 Schedule D, Part 5, page 31 of the document states they ended 2020 with an endowment of $56,163.690, 2019 was $54.152,230. 2018 was $50.113.630.
  19. Concur with @InquisitiveScouter. I had a large, 6 man Coleman tent. IT was a P.I.T.A.O. to set up, especially by myself in the rain. Eventually we also went the two tent route, the hoodlums in one tent, the wife and I in another. That tent was used maybe 10 time in a 5 year period.
  20. for the rice of e membership, it is over $600, so worth a membership. How many in your family? They also make a 6man version that is similar ttps://www.rei.com/product/202982/rei-co-op-wonderland-6-tent One thing to remember, the more poles and longer they are, the more people it will take to set up the X looks like it will take two to three folks to set up. In my expereince, it is usually just Dad setting up and Mom is herding kids.
  21. I cannot sat about other districts, but in my old one, the abuse by he professional staff as mentioned above has drastically lowered the FOS funding. combined with lack of unit support and the selling of camps, they are lucky to get any FOS. Back in the day, we were in the $60 to $65K range, and now the goal is $3K.
  22. The volunteers who have the knowledge, skills, abilities, and previous event budgets ten to know more about the events and what is involved, than the pros. Yet the pros are overruling and micromanaging without one iota of what is needed. I've listed examples on other pages. But one not listed was Cub family camp. we asked for 10 bows and 120 arrows. Got 3 bows and about 50 arrows, some of which were not usable. Had to go to Walmart and buy extra bows, and all the arrows in stock to run the event. Oh and this event had over 600 people registered. In my neck of the woods, folks a
  23. If the part about limiting all programs to 18 and under in the Churchill Plan is "revisited" and implemented, Sea Scouts, Exploring, and Venturing will die. Yes there wqs outrage over the move when it was leaked. Yes the National Sea Scout Commodore, the top volunteer for that program was shocked when he read it in the leak. Yes National said that was not going to happen , but they would"revisit" the issue when if needed. And when has national ever listened to their volunteers? I can count on one hand when they have. the Tiger and BB Gun policy that was rescinded when it was public
  24. Some places are like that. I talked to one unit and they said this is how they will be handling it. they will now offer two overnighters: one Friday/Saturday overnighter with one leader in charge, and a Saturday/Sunday overnighter with a different leader in charge. Families will have their choice of one or two overnighters.
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