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I love my Smokey   I splurged and spent the 120$+ on the hat, pins, strap, shipping ... then got a rain cover from a cowboy store    

Started making myself a nice press too. My parade hat 

Very rare in Europe, I took it along to New Zealand as well, where it is still in storage    

As a Cub and Boy Scouts in the 80s I had the baseball caps, still have them    

On hikes I wear black or o.d. boobie hats, or watch caps when it gets cold. 

 

Oh and my boys told me I am not a Drill Instructor ... just to remind me ...    

 

Oh and 7 5/8 on the hat, 13 on boots ... 13 hat size? r u srz 

I got the NDCS patch, necker & coffecup 

And I loved it. 

Was around 2010 in Heidelberg, Germany with TAC (Trans Atlantic Council) 

 

Prepare to lug a big binder home - take an extra (empty) back with you    tons of paper    

 

But learned a lot, met lots of other scouters from all over, had a great team & time & food ...

 

Makes me want to go again - oh wait someone said every 5 years ???    

I cant access the entire fundraising sub forum thingy ... will play around with the new forum software some more, see if I find it ;-) 

add: I think it was called "Grand Administration and Fundraising 101" or so    I wanted to pass it along to 2 other scouters 

Dont quite remember ... something about Grants & Fundraising that I had opend. But I cant find it in searches, nor even open the subforum IYWKIM. 

If you find it Ill owe you one 

Hi All, 

havent been here in like a year and was looking for a Funraising thread I had started,

but I cant get into that area of the forum?

I see one post but cant click on it? What happend to all the other topics? 

Was it closed while I was away, is it a glitch or what? 

TIA

YIS

What I know is the "Hoehenweg" from Ehrwald over Leermoos and back around, goes around the entire valley, I think it was 20k? Maybe 12-13 miles? When I was at Bayern High Adventure Camp we went on a dayhike up the german side of the Zugspitze. Been a loooong time ;-)

I got the 99$ BSA Official Stetson Smokey Bear from my good ol Scout shop, and I quite like it indeed.

I have the official BSA hat device but I wear a gold Fleur de Lis pin instead.

Now it is not crushable and it drives me nuts keeping it looking impecable.

I bought a raincover from a western/riding sports shop in town here.

I use 4 clothes peg to keep it in shape when stored, or get it back in shape.

Saw a nice thing online: take 2 wood boards bigger than your hat, cut out just the size of the hat and then you can clamp the brim between the wood

and keep that brim looking nice n fresh n sharp.

Other ideas?

Generally no, but it depends.

I agree with Moose to a T - age appropriate is the big issue.

Now there is exceptions, it depends on a lot of things.

Most activities your son will simply be to young to keep up.

 

With BSA we did take the 5 year old from one of our ASMs to our Klondike Derby during the day, but we found he was to young to even understand the Troops embassy visit for example.

In New Zealand the scouts go on a lot of tough hikes, and cubs cant keep up with scouts so no.

We do have family camp once a year across all sections + family.

Our youngest camper was 2.5 y/o girl, older brother a cub DL and big sister scout PL and dad committee, so no biggie.

Our SMs youngest sons would go on hikes with us, but these cubs are tougher than venturers so no comparison LOL

 

You just have to consider alternate activities for the young ones, they tend to need more rest, have a shorter attention span, cant handle big bows or 22s let alone fire or totin chit ...

Sir, with all due respect: I believe Sir Baden-Powell never attended or passed a BSA Class on "Leave no trace".

COH and parades do require different pants than field pants. Good on you for being thrifty. In New Zealand only for the christmas day parade are black pants and dress shoes requiered, the Kiwis dont have official uniform pants at all. And as long as you dont have an ASM preachin "no jeans" while wearing them ...

Its quiet on the board but still in the media.

Random facts:

the US has a higher cost per person for healthcare (before ACA) but a lower life expectancy than most industrialized countries.

 

Somehow the Europeans, Japanese and Commonwealth countries figured out how to make it work at less expense than the US.

They might wait longer for a doctor, but pay less and live longer!

 

Germany introduced a parallel private health care system, a bit like the US, and after years it is starting to fail now.

State medical has its drawbacks and is getting more expensice as everyting has to keep up with inlfation

 

I think medical service, with all the great research they do in some areas, is still a lil backward and outdated in the US.

 

The big joke in europe at the moment is:

 

The NSA can monitor every computer and cell phone on the planted, but ACA cant set up a functioning web site ... sad but true aye

 

Money for war but cant afford an advil for the poor ....

geocaching.com sounds cool.

A lot of us are already on Facebook, have personal & pack/troop pages there.

Just stumbled across this the other day

http://www.scoutface.org

More youth than here it seems, which is good ;-)

oi, my fav ^o^

 

in NZ it turned into a game-competition almost: patrol leaders would inspect their den/patrol and points could be earned/lost for the patrol of the year award (a special outing for just one patrol like sailing).

Now the Kiwis are a lot more relaxed, so as long as the shirt, necker and slide where there ... not nearly as many patches down under.

 

Class A Parade: Full on shirt (brown button, fully loaded patches, service stars & knot), black pants and black dress shoes

Class A (normal, Flags and all) Full on shirt as above, but green scout cargo pants and lets face it at camp we wear boots

Class B, actvity - I have a Centenial Uniform with minumum patches like a knot, name. Just basic for any activity.

Class C - any scout polo

Class D - any scout t shirt ;-)

 

If the scouters lead by example, the kids tend to pick up quickly and show the newbies.

 

For teaching a flag ceremony I had a friend from the USAF come in and they looked sharp.

 

And I heard before: even if I wear a Smokey Bear I am not a bleeep blank bleeeeep blank blank Drill Instructor.

At ease.

Simple aye

Hallo Nachbar :-) Welcome to the Forum. Most of us here are scouters, as in adult leaders. But a few scouts on this board as well. American version of a water scout would be a sea scout. New Zealand has sea scouts as well. You can learn a lot to back up your captain here, aye :-) greetings from Berlin

Agreed its SM/Parent time, but as ASM for stabbing with a pencil and drawing blood I would have confiscated the Totin Chit and not worried about corners.

Taking someones crutches is quite un-scout-behaviour. Special class on 1st Aid maybe? No hazzing I know, I have old school ideas ...

 

In 2.5 years as a leader we/I only ever had 1 scout that was removed from the troop (Leaders decided, told the Committee who told the parents).

But that is and should only be the very last resort.

 

So how to manipulate a lil manipilator to stop manipulating? ...

Back on Topic.

I ain't ashamed of Wearing the Boy Scout Uniform, not even when I was a Youth.

Why Not show off your pride?

are you ashamed of Being a Scouter?

 

Amazes me how everyone complains about cost of a Scout Uniform, yet I bet most kids are running around in high Dollar Sneakers and busy texting on the Newest Cellphone on the Market

 

Traveling in a Uniform easily Identifies Members of your Group? I remember once on the Way to Philmont we stopped to help fix a Flat on a Van. As We started off the Driver looked in the Mirror and realized one of our group was still standing on the roadside

Thats great Q. I love abseiling. Or climbing up.

 

I am so proud to be a scouter, I even push trainers over the EDGE.

Australian, British and New Zealand Scouts, among others, are co-ed. From Kea (Tigers), Cubs, Scouts, Venturers and Rovers.

 

Takes a lot of testosterone out of the wild play. On the other hand we have to check that girls and boys are in seperate tents, take an appropriate number of female leaders along etc.

 

I think co-ed is a good idea. BSA is a bit behind the rest of the world, just give it a couple more years.

but that is the problem: you cant introduce girls to venturing if they havent gone thrue the rest of scouting.

In NZ the girls in venturing/rovers are most likely to have been in scouts since cubs.

In our valley we had/have 3 scout groups with a total of 4 packs and 3 troops but only 1 crew.

Especially from cubs to scouts it thins out as these days the parents make the kids choose between another activity/sport or scouts.

Then after Queensscout (eagle) there is another drop with only hardcore scouts staying on for venturing or running district camps and what not.

 

One thing I have realized in the past 3-4 years: nearly all scouts quit for a while, mostly college.

But it is mostly these people that then come back with their own kids.

On our Floats (big ol' flatbeds) we would put up a tent, but actually never thought of a fire. Think about: you will be rolling by, not stoping, a couple of feet higher than the people standing at the side of the road - they wouldnt be ablt to see much of anything. A tent is big. Flags on display. If you have a really big truck and too much space, but a pinewood derby track on it.

 

My idea: take a dutch oven, place it on something to elevate it a little, put a stone circle around it and have the kids color some crunched paper in red n yellow as flames, maybe pulled apart cotton balls for flames? But people wont really see much of it.

 

 

Its mostly about getting the kids on the trailer to smile and wave, and the adults to keep on repeating "do not hang your arms or legs outside of the vehicle while moving..."

When I was in Europe my New Balance sneakers showed me as American.

Aschaffenburg is safe as ... plus an adult male in BDU is maybe a tad more intimidating than a 10 year old with a flag on his sleeve.

Remember if someone wants to pick a fight, that person is gonna be looking for an easy target.

 

So if your SM/ASM are civillian and office commandos you cant act like the troops down south where nearly every ASM is an Airborne Ranger.

My IOLS was with the Green Beanies, the Green Berets 8-)

 

Yes it is sad and heck no I dont like it one bit ... but in the past 20-30 years there have been so many threats and real attacks that us handful that are not

in CONUS (Continental United States) have to watch out a tad bit more. The threat is real.

 

Usually threat reports are handed to BSA by US personel, but just like a week or 2 ago the german goverment gave out a blanket alert for ALL US posts in germany: too many people pissed off at the NSA, might lead to attacks. Mind you the german Feds gave the alert but local police cant be bothered.

Given the attitude, some people think "we" have it coming anyway.

 

So better not look too much like Yanks now. Unless ya got SM tendencies ;-)

Back on Topic.

I ain't ashamed of Wearing the Boy Scout Uniform, not even when I was a Youth.

Why Not show off your pride?

are you ashamed of Being a Scouter?

 

Amazes me how everyone complains about cost of a Scout Uniform, yet I bet most kids are running around in high Dollar Sneakers and busy texting on the Newest Cellphone on the Market

 

Traveling in a Uniform easily Identifies Members of your Group? I remember once on the Way to Philmont we stopped to help fix a Flat on a Van. As We started off the Driver looked in the Mirror and realized one of our group was still standing on the roadside

I am so proud to be a scouter, I wear a BSA Stetson smokey bear. Top that.

Insurance? Wearing uniform is about Esprit de Coprs (please excuse my french spelling LOL).

I am for wearing uniform from and to camp, other events and all.

Got Class A's, Class B's and C's. (I wore the Centennial with basic patches as Class B and a full patched brown button old school as Class A).

I was one of the nerds who would wear his cub or scout uniform to school for class picture day 8-)

 

But this gruesome world sometimes has other plans: BSA TAC Packs/Troops are advised not to wear the Uniform Shirt in public in europe due to the Flag.

We got a terror warning before heading out to summer camp not to appear like 'mericans.

Committee member who relayed the message from the embassy was wearing a t shirt with eagle & flag at the time *facepalm* (she cool though. stubborn LOL).

 

When I took the cubs out to the world money fair it was also a no-uniforms activity.

Sort of sad if we can only wear our shirts locked up & out of sight if overseas.

 

Mind you on the way back from summer camp we spent a night at the new Camp Bayern in the army barracks (as in: we didnt sleep in the BSA camp site but the boys got a couple of rooms as the soldiers had left a couple of buildings empty). I love reveille in the morning and I only ever feel safe if I know all my scouts are behind barbed wire ^o^

 

Around Kandersteg and the International Scout Center you can take the public transport for free if you wear your necker.

 

In NZ uniforms are worn at all meetings, to and from camp. At camp t shirts with neckers is ok. (They just got new shirts, until 2011 the NZ Uniform was scout polo shirts, no pockets or anything)

Considering Opsec and all: Yes, behind the front lines it would be dicier.

We dont have a Brigade anymore, just a handful of Jarheads.

My old troop was "Outpost of Freedom".

OP is different AO than PX ;-)

Australian, British and New Zealand Scouts, among others, are co-ed. From Kea (Tigers), Cubs, Scouts, Venturers and Rovers.

 

Takes a lot of testosterone out of the wild play. On the other hand we have to check that girls and boys are in seperate tents, take an appropriate number of female leaders along etc.

 

I think co-ed is a good idea. BSA is a bit behind the rest of the world, just give it a couple more years.

NZ Scouts became co-ed I think like 20 years ago. Maybe in another 10 years BSA will catch up ;-)

 

My pack was about half girls. More boys with the older scouts and only 1 of 6 venturers was a girl (always got a tent by herself).

NZ also has Guides, so the girls get to chose if they want to do girlie stuff or cool tomboy scout stuff 8-)

 

Womens rights? That is the point: girls dont need toonly sell cookies all day, they can also build fires, pioneering and what not.

 

(mind you, I always feed my scouts the guide cookies. Was founded by BPs Sister after all)

Australian, British and New Zealand Scouts, among others, are co-ed. From Kea (Tigers), Cubs, Scouts, Venturers and Rovers.

 

Takes a lot of testosterone out of the wild play. On the other hand we have to check that girls and boys are in seperate tents, take an appropriate number of female leaders along etc.

 

I think co-ed is a good idea. BSA is a bit behind the rest of the world, just give it a couple more years.

I can tell you right now you wont find too many infamous eagles. Wanna know why? They leave no trace ^o^