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Fred: Totally hear and understand your points too. If the Troop that is starving does not realize that something is wrong, sooner or later something will happen. Hopefully parents will step-up and help correct it. Yes.. Adults get mad at eachother for pretty lame things. It's so weird. Main thing is, keep it fun and provide a good program. A Troop of 10-15 is just as good as a Troop of 120 if the program is good.

As a recently retired Cubmaster, I fought hard against feeder packs to Troops. Troops should earn the Scouts that crossover to them. Also, not every Troop is for every Scout. Just as there are 31 flavors at Baskin & Robbins, there are that many and more Troops. I didn't like the fact that everyone went to one Troop year after Year. There were several good Troops around us. So, I started bringing in other Troops to do things with the Pack. So for the 5 years before they all went to one Troop. Now, we are in four other Troops for a total of five. FYI: I also grew the Pack from 2

$24 is the registration fee to be a member within the BSA. The Dues a Scout Unit charges can include that $24, but the rest is what is charged to provide that program to your particular unit. Whether the CO provides a meeting space or the Scout Unit pays for it, there are some fixed costs to run the unit. The Pack I just left due to Crossing over had to pay $800 a year for the gym at the school because the CO does not pay nor has a space. The only thing that matters, in general, to the Council is that they collect $24 per person (outside of the Unit Reserve Scout 91U $10) plus $40 for

If you do a Spring Recruitment and target the Kindergarten Class, you will get your Den of Tigers. They can get registered along with the new Tiger Den Leaders and head off towards Summer Camp all all the other fun things. Makes for an easier Fall Recruitment.

I will also say that most Packs that I know including the one that I was in, didn't re-buy a beltloop or pin that was re-earned. So, it could be just stated that he earned it and congratulate the Scout at the Pack Meeting. It's what we did. It cuts down cost within the budget.

Each Summer is in that Rank. So, once Bear Rank is completed and the Cubscout Year is over, generally June 1st, Scout moves up to Webelos I. Once Summertime Pack Award requirements are met, he is awarded the Webelos Pin for that Summer as WI. It does stand to reason that during the Webelos II Summer he can earn the Pin. So, yes it can.

Also, here is what my council has for their requirements for the Tour Plan. http://www.cpcbsa.org/leader-resources/tour-permits It is different from what others have posted. [h=2]When is a unit required to complete a Tour and Activity Plan?[/h] The following are requirements specifically for the Cascade Pacific Council. A Tour and Activity Plan should be submitted if your trip involves any of the following bullets. Regardless, the tour and activity plan is an excellent tool that should be included in preparation for all activities, even those not requiring it. It guides a tour leade

Sorry... I don't like the whole "Lump everything in one class" mentality. OWLS & BALOO are different. I don't know what SLST is except you might be talking about Scoutmaster/ASM Training 1,2,3. IOLS or ITOLS is #4 for SM/ASM Training. So, if you lump those classes together, that is fine since they both work together.

Since my council doesn't exceed 500 miles in breadth in any direction, it seems that our unit outings are covered without submitting a Trip Plan as long as we are within the council boundaries, barring the exceptions listed. The second FAQ quoted indicates that this may vary by council. Not all Council's have insurance for all units like ours does. In checking the online Trip Permit process through myscouting I found this link: http://www.scouting.org/filestore/doc/GUIDE_TO_TOUR_PLANNING_PRINCIPLES.pdf It talks about having BALOO for overnighters amongst other things. All Trip Permits are

Yup....he is that rank that he is.

Packbadges is great for Cubscouts. It has all the rank, beltloops and a few other items on there. It's nice to have when out hiking so you can make sure the requirements are what you remember them to be. Scout Trail is for Boyscouts and it does a way better job in the Boy Scout program as it has everything there. Ok, except for the recently announced Merit Badges. These are both iPhone based apps.

ADCinNC.....so, "Pack Camping is "Family Camping", no rule broken." Great, I am bringing Beer to this outing. Rule broken. If you tell me that it's a Family Camping event then, I can drink beer in site of everyone. If you then come up to me and say, hey you can't do that because it's a Pack Campout....you have misrepresented the outing. You need to look at the other part of what you quoted..." that involves Cub Scouting, Boy Scouting, or Venturing program elements in overnight settings" Rule Broken. I get the part where people/families can camp and go on outings that also include peo

Thanks for the link to the older comments...Good points from years ago.

Yup..two adults and two scouts. There you go. I give you this latest account of YPT Violation even when everyone was around...on camping trips. http://www.oregonlive.com/washingtoncounty/index.ssf/2013/08/former_eagle_scout_pleads_guil.html#incart_m-rpt-2 Main point is, everyone has to be aware. Both Youth and Adults. Penn State is horror story and where other Adults did know and did nothing.

I base, when i was Cubmaster, what pin to give the Scout what rank he is at that time. Usually Tigers that summer are Tigers in the Fall. Hence, that pin. The last Pack Meeting is our full crossover for all Ranks and awarding of all Ranks. So, at the end of the Pack Meeting, I declare the Cubscout Year over and they are all now the next Rank. Then we dive right into Summertime Pack Award and Summercamp season. So, if there are Kindergartners, the Council considers them 1st Graders after June 1st. Hence, they are 1st Graders and Tigers. If we can award their Bobcat since they worke

Apparently your Council has special exemption permission from National as to the Trip Permit. Hang onto that when a claim is made. Your lawyer will need it. Camping with friends who are Scouts is just that. Camping with Friends. But, if the Pack goes "Family Camping" because that's what they call it, then, that's breaking the rule.

Correct. It's not required. However, I think that not knowing about the Webelos program and how to better present it is to the detriment of the WDL and Scouts. Webelos is not all Beltloops and Go-See-Its. It's the bridge between Cubscouts and Boy Scouts. Preparing them for Boy Scouts.

True...but when Lawyers come in they will split hairs on rules. It's also called grooming. Both Scouts could be getting groomed for all the wrong reasons. Things happen when people are not watching. Having an adult there is a barrier.

Nothing really. My point is men come to the Church meetings on weekends for fellow-ship. They are dating and working with no other real commitments. So, they have more free time. They are also great for Unit Commissioners to help as well. A lot of these men are a great asset to their Ward/Stake and can help.

He will get the Webelos Pin that summer since he's going into 5th Grade and Webelos II working on Arrow of Light Rank. Webelos II will crossover to Boyscouts. Hence, no second Webelos Pin.

Christina: Coming late to this topic. What's your position within the LDS Pack? I know the mother is a Committee Memeber of the LDS Pack. You need to check with the DE for the Charter's on both Units. Since the LDS pays for all Charters, how is the Parents paying for the non-LDS Pack? Once a rank is submitted to Council, the Scout is that Rank. So there really isn't any turning back in that area. Yes, the LDS has it's process. (Not debating that at all) It's going to get weird quick when he gets to the 11 Year Old program. Since he is still within the Primary but can be i

I would check with your Council about BALOO not being required if you stay within your Council. All Trip Permits go to National now. Here's the thing..accident or issue happens and lawyers get involved and ask for Trip Permit records. They find that BALOO wasn't on there, but you went anyway. BSA is off the hook, but you and your CO are.... Don't be on the 5 o'clock news for the wrong reasons. If you go "family camping" nothing counts for Rank Advancement and no Pack equipment used. BALOO is for Pack Camping. OWLS is how to put on the Webelos Program and to Camp with them

Why chance it. Use YPT and have two adults present/in-view with the Scouts.

Your Cubscouts are the rank that they are when you turn in the advancement sheets to Council saying...this Scout is now a Bear on this date. Done. So, during the summer that they are a BEAR, they get the BEAR Summertime Pack Award PIN. A Tiger can earn the Tiger Pin if they sign-up as a Tiger before Summer. IE: Spring recruitment. That new Scout who just graduated Kindergarten can join Cubscouts.