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Yeah that descibes him well. He doesn't make friends easily and has acquaintances but no friends in scouts.

RIP, very sad

Well, we talked again this morning and he really likes the actitivity in scouting. He is psyched about Seabase and summer camp, even for Philmont if we get a spot. He just can't handle the 1st year scouts and the disrespect. I spoke to the ASM in charge of that patrol and he is going to chat with him and watch the patrol to see if he has any good advice(he has been in scouting 54 years). If we can't get the issues moving in the right direction, he will step down as PL and just take some non-PLC time. He already has plenty for his Star Rank but doesn't feel that he deserves it yet so he do

The hard part with swim team is that it is 12 months a year.... I am going to talk with him about relinquishing his patrol leader duties, so he can just concentrate on camping with less stress.

My son is getting more and more panicked with having to deal with a lot of younger scouts in our troop that behavior drives him crazy. He is talking about quitting scouts which is killing me because I see the good that it does for him. He is currently a patrol leader, signed up for Seabase and summer camp next summer and in the lottery for Philmont. He is so busy with school, swim team, and scouts he is frazzled. Mom is not helping by saying you should drop scouts.... sigh :-( I am the scoutmaster which makes it even worse.... I know I am not the first to deal with this. What hav

I would disagree with this. I have way more issues with Helicopter dads than moms. The Dads are trying to get Eagle. I have banned a couple for camping with us for a few times while their son adjusts to camping without them. The boys do great and have a great time. Dad just glared at me at first but then realized why I was doing it after the 4 months. We have a scouting contract for scouts and adults in our troop. The Adults look at me wierd at first, but then they realize we have their son's best interest in mind.

Howdy!

I concur about this, we have a boy in the our unit that was wanting to quit, but then visited us based on his dad knowing me. He was immediately sold and when he went on our next campout,, you would never know he hadn't been art of the troop for a long time. So I have seen it work well. He may just not like camping the way they do it. I am not saying that would work for your son, but it might be worth a shot. I hear your points and have seen all of them before in my previous troop. I use that knowledge in my head to help decisions that our troop makes when I talk to our SPL and A

Tampa, are all your scout leaders male in the troop? 25% of my ASMs are female in my troop. I wonder if they would have had the same reaction if that was the case? I am not being judgemental, just wondering.

My wife uses brother machines, pretty basic ones are cheap and reliable. I would ask someone that already does it in your troop or pack, and they will teach you.

All adults going would be registered leaders with YPT. Yes Tampa's list is pretty good.

Actually when my daughter was a girl scout, we stopped after many years because I couldn't help, so yes I did. And girls can play on boys teams if the coaches allow it and they pass the same quality standards. Does it happen often, no. But is does happen, they are not excluded, that is a fact.

In order to not point fingers, I do this it is wide spread currently. Breaks my heart

I don't see that as different from a lot of Eagle Scouts I have seen. Boys get passed through and moved along to get their Eagle at 13.5-14 age. I have sat of Eagle BOR where the boy has done the bare minimum to pass. It breaks my heart when I see that but it already happens.

Agreed. Last year it worked since we sent a majority of them to go get training or help staff sessions and there was 3 of us that didn't and handled logistics and problems during the day. There were definite logistics that we had to handle that the boys couldn't handle so I am glad I was able to do that.

Yep, we are registered for a camp that is a day and a half away from home. We are lucky, we have a lot of registered leaders which is a great problem to have. Parents pay their own way for summer camp. waiting until May? That seems so late to me.

I was thinking that maybe extra adults volunteer to help the camp staff at stations, kitchen, or something helpful to the camp. Right now we have almost a 2:1 ratio of scouts to adults wanting to go. That seems like a lot to me.

The problems are that we have limited space for transportation, and the boys don't need 1 adult per 2 boys. Even the best intentioned parents are still a distraction for the boys, we are a necessary evil at camp IMHO. I like the addition of saying they have taken IOLS or Woodbadge.

Summer camp

Did they storm out when Venturing allowed girls? Life evolves, no matter what it is, it evolves. Standing up for exclusion has been proven wrong in history over and over again.

Showerooms. I miss 2 letters and totally different meaning. The room is a locking door with a commode, sink, and shower. Nothing else. No way to do the pictures like you mention. I don't think recent membership changes will affect the behavior in either way. IMHO.

We have more adults that want to go to camp than spots available. How do you choose? Camps with the troop regularly Can pull the trailer Has a specific task for the troop at camp Specific medical need for camp (e.g. diabetic monitoring)

At our camps they have been converting all the bathrooms to single stall types which are much better. They statrt this a few years ago and they are awesome. No gender or age issues since they are single person units. I see at camps without these will be using porta potties as a transition and showrooms separated by times available.

Welcome from Central Texas!

Is that like YMCA? I am Jewish and a paying member for the YMCA.... YMCA is no longer only Christian or men only and a lot of other exclusionary policies it had back in the day. In fact, I would wager to say that the membership is more women than men now. YMCA is the historical name. Boy Scouts and BSA are the brand, so I expect the name to stay for a long time, at some point it may become just BSA. And I talk a lot with Venture scouts, they are all very proud to tell their friends they are Boy Scouts. In fact, they are more proud to say it than the boys at that age.