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Scouter99

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  1. Really? I'm beginning to wonder whether you read this thread at all. As long as you continue to insist that the only scenario in which sex between scouts/leaders is non-consensual or predatory, there's not much point speaking to you about it. As I said, you're determined to have gay leaders and your paradigm permits no space for anything else.
  2. Again, here is the depth of your indoctrination on full display. It is not for you to interpret and you are not "giving" me anything if you get your brain in line with reality. Pedophile is a word that means something specific, and what it means is set by the American Psychiatric Association. If you have misgivings, take it up with them, I'm sure they're very interested in your thoughts on the matter and what you're willing to "give" them. Do you even realize the irony of your comments about Christians being unwilling to compromise while you stick your fingers in your ears and assume your
  3. There does not have to be any limit on editing; I can edit posts from 5 years ago on the other IPB forum I frequent.
  4. Not n'more: And so on with the path to not awarding the fraudulent MB. It pays to read the books. Page 52 http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/33088.pdf
  5. And then tear it immediately down. We have a great little forest behind our CO and I've tried doing just that. A mother hen is always there to say "alright, now leave no trace." Boys have no interest in sweating it all day, or for a few days, to immediately rip it all up and toss it to the wind, and I haven't got any interest in that, either. It probably also has a lot to do with the fact that Greenbar Bill's handbooks contained instructions for how to make war bonnets and chaps, but no other kinds of dress. And why should it have? The point is not history, but inspiration of ide
  6. I wonder what you'd be saying about the competition of ideas if the Southern Baptist Convention decided to switch all its units to BPSA and amend BPSA's policies to exclude gays.
  7. Again, we already have an example of the trajectory: From The Debate the Refuses to Die LGBT activists have made it clear from day one that tolerance is not acceptable, it must be 100% acceptance in 100% of places or destruction of the places that don't capitulate. If the local option is the route BSA takes, within a year a gay man will try to join a scout troop that does not allow homosexuals, and Lamda Legal or the ACLU etc will sue. The First Conservative Church of Anytown, USA will not have the money to defend the suit, BSA will punt, and the 5-30 boys in the troop will lose Sco
  8. Those concerns ("fear" is a diminutive used to rob opposition of reason) are already extended to women, and here is precisely where even the BSA runs into PC bizarro-land logic. We are told that females cannot share tents with males, that they must use separate latrines or have blocked out times for the same building, that they cannot be alone with males, etc. Male crew leaders must have a female leader present if a female youth is present. Why? Because males are attracted to females and vice versa. But when BSA admitted openly gay youth we are told that no special accommodations are
  9. My man, do they not have figurative language over there? Our trusting friend SSScout, and our various pro-gay pals say none of this will lead to discussions of sexuality and sex within Scouting, but the simple fact is that the example is already there.
  10. More naïveté. Britian's Scout Association is close enough to a Sexality Merit Badge, it has published a guide to coming out: https://members.scouts.org.uk/factsheets/FS185082.pdf Over and over. Everything you guys say won't happen has already happened. It's like bizarro world. It would be funny if it weren't so dire.
  11. In the politest terms, neither of you has the slightest idea what the words you're using mean. I have replied to you here: http://scouter.com/index.php/topic/27240-homosexuals-are-not-pedophiles/
  12. Now, as for the Moosetracker's charge that the book I cited, and the specific incident it outlined were "pedophiles", here is the passage. Anyone who wants to argue that the men described here were not gay, but pedophiles, can save their breath and send a letter to the American Psychological Association, because they are arguing not against me but against the definition of homosexuality and pedophilia and making a boob out of themselves. Where the author says "boys" you are reminded again that we are talking about Boy Scouts, boys 11-17, virtually all sexually mature. His language is sloppy
  13. What is Pedophilia Pedophile is a specific condition with a specific definition. It is the exxclusive sexual attraction of a person to "children," that is to say, biological children who have not yet reached puberty. The DSM, which governs the definition of pedophilia, sets that age to 13. The physical reality is that girls have been entering puberty at an increasigly younger age for decades, and boys have now been observed to be following suit. A "minor" is a child in the vernacular and legal sense, but once a person enters puberty, they are not biologically a child. A person who has
  14. Yep, it's a time-out issue. And after 15+ minutes, edit disappears.
  15. I had an edit button, but I was only able to use it once. After my first edit, the button disappeared. I don't know if this is a time-out issue as Rick alluded to, or a forum setting that is limiting us to one edit per post. I do know that IPB software has the ability to allow users to edit posts as often as they want for as long as they want. I've been using another IPB forum for 7 years, and as long as the thread has not ben locked, I can go back and edit my posts from 7 years ago, and I can edit them as many times as I like. Whether is a time-out, or a limit, it's an admin option
  16. The twisting-turning involved in stating that marching in a gay pride is not promoting homosexuality amaze me; must've earned your gymnactics badge. The non sequitur that follows is typical and not at all impressive. I didn't say anyone is trying to turn boys gay, you felt the need to defend against that charge. Why? I think it's Freudian. After all, as an Englishman you've just had the 118th anniversary of the release from Reading Jail of gay icon Oscar Wilde, who spent 2 years there for sex with teenagers, or as he so artfully put it "feasting with panthers." Maybe you need to deny t
  17. Both state that admitting gay leaders will not result in their sexuality being advocated within the program. Both know that is exactly what happens and will be happening. It is exactly what newly-allowed gay Scouts have been doing, it is exactly what gay leaders have been doing, it is why they pushed for the change. Scouts UK it's the same story, they have staff and events dedicated to promoting homosexuality.
  18. This is a lie and it has been a lie for 2 years. Both of you know it and I'm happy to call it what it is. 5 seconds after gay youth were allowed, activist churches signed up gay leaders on purpose, and activist leaders took their scouts to gay pride parades where their Scouts cavorted around with men wearing as little clothing as nipple clamps and g-strings. And you're happy about it, and blistered those of us who had anything negative to say about it. A majority of Millenials think that abortion is morally unacceptable. Let's make it illegal tomorrow.
  19. #1 Most Wanted: Bryan Wendell. $1,000,000 reward.
  20. The odd youth is out of luck in the BSA, then, since the Boy Scout uniform section is only 14 pages long, and 4 of them are pictures of merit badges. The uniform is not complex, by for more complex are the idiotic ways in which people get it wrong, you know, "nothing is foolproof to the sufficiently talented fool" and all. Some noggin' who puts his World Conservation Award in place of his World Crest has now made more work than if he'd put it in the correct place, for example. I can't imagine the effort involved in making 12 event patches hang from one button, but by God! they find a w
  21. No apology necessary I probably owe Pack Saddle an apology myself! Those sentiments are the issue I see with the "privilege" line in Tahawk's link. The use of "privileging" is proof enough of the aim, to introduce wild intersectional discussions (which are propaganda) into the public schools. It means "privileging" in the sense of "white privilege", heteronormism, and other jargon my spellcheck doesn't recognize because it is part of The Backlash. It is the idea that nothing is True because anything is true for any one person, and the assertion of Truth is oppression based in privileg
  22. My initial thoughts are: "It's party's or parties', not parties." Good questions overall.
  23. Sea Scouts is an outdoors program. Yes, it's idiotic and basically a Mormon program. You do not understand that Exploring is not a BSA program and is not administered by the BSA, nor has it been for over 20 years. They are not Scouts, it is not Scouting. Mission creep is a term that already exists for a reason, your argument in favor of Nerd Scouts is it. (On this day I claim and retain rights to the term Nerd Scouts)
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