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I go to campfires to get away from politics and such. We get enough of the baffons on the right and the left on TV as it is. The last thing I want is one of their mouth pieces at campfire spouting off.

Thanks. Never seen those. We just have the scout track and submit for SMCs when done. This might help them track a bit better.

...yet I'll bet every boy can memorize the levels of Assassin's Creed.

Well, then we will continue to risk losing folks who add a great deal to the discussion here. Good to know someone will be around to turn off the light when we're all gone.

What's this Palm application you refer to. We don't use such a thing, nor have I heard of it. Is that a local thing or am I missing out on processing more paperwork?

[bSA just banned thinking about flying or flying at all as being too dangerous. Next: Chewing gum and walking.] We've done this before too, despite all the paperwork we need to submit. Great time!

We had our "mama bears" long ago. They became (somewhat) extinct...thankfully. It was a looong road to get the parents out of the kids' hair. It still happens every other year or so but our guys know how to get the parents to leave. We still struggle with the 15-16 age group. Girls, sports and school just kill that age group.

Just waiting for some kid in STEM to get burned by a Bunsen burner or get some material in his eye before they shut down the baking soad volcano making.

We've had some GREAT Eagle Scouts. SPLs, JASMs, Instructors, you name it. These kids walked on water as far as I'm concerned. I'd sooner have them manage something than several of my ASMs combined. NOT ONE had a single palm!! They got their Eagle, stayed in the troop, held leadership positions, ran events and program areas but didn't feel the need to earn another MB unless it interested them. Planning ahead to get TEN palms...and then being p.o.'d that ten is not achievable and he'll have to "settle" with nine??? I can only shake my head. One of our ASMs is on the review board at a loc

That's even more ridiculous! Sorry, but when I see a Scout with more than three palms, alarm bells go off with me. There's more to Scouting than the bling. At some point the SM and advancement chair need to chat with him about what real growth and leadership is. It is not about getting all the MBs or ten palms. No one other than mom and dad are going to count that as an accomplishment. He should focus his efforts in giving back to the unit, helping to foster a sense of stewardship in the troop, counsel younger Scouts on adhering to the Law and Oath, help with other problems new Scouts

Sorry, I hate to be the hard nut here but I'd have done the same thing! It's his NINTH PALM!!!! For crying out loud, if the kid is 17, an Eagle with 8 Palms he knows DARN WELL (or should) what the process is!! All of my guys know by the time they are Second Class EXACTLY what is required for EVERY rank. They know the SMC is the last step before the BOR. They know they contact the advancement chair for their BOR. They know how to follow up if they don't hear back, or if Mr. Smith verbally promised to schedule a BOR and didn't. This kid was seemingly able to manage himself though hig

Five years from now that same Scout will miss filing his income tax because 1) he was never held accountable, and 2) April 15th is "just a date on paper". You would *think* having done the palm BOR at least SEVEN times previously he'd know what the process was. Meh.

Corrected this advice. Red beans should be slow cooked over low heat with these accouterments. Just sayin'.

Unless we are working on Citizenship in the Nation or World, I do the same.

@@Stosh, Disraeli would have something to say about that.

I hope he's not the cooking MB instructor. He clearly did not grow up in the South. Any self-respecting Southerner knows red beans and rice is cooked on Monday and you never, ever, ever eat raw beans!!!

Given he's looking to get nine (9) palms that's a minimum age of 15 years, 10 months when he got his Eagle. Well, no one can add or subtract requirements either so we can't just punt the BOR either. The Scout owns his own advancement process. If he's old enough to know better then missing the BOR is his responsibility. The SM co-owns this process. If he cannot read the requirements then he owes the Scout an apology for giving him bad information. The SM also owns the process of communicating with the advancement chair who has/has not passed an SMC. If the Scout

What Scouting skills are learned by these? Dodge ball Log rolling Zip lining Tug of war Tomahawk throwing Knife throwing Go karting Dirt boarding These are all great activities which have little or nothing to do with actual scout skills but they are AMAZINGLY FUN and why boys join scouts. What other fun things are the adults and lawyers going to take away? You can eat a Snickers in your tent at Philmont and get mauled by a bear (true story), but God forbid that you have fun rolling a human gerbil ball in to your friend in the water.

Not down south. Major cities are still much worse than the burbs.

After 8 palms mom's intervention should have stopped looooong ago.

While laudable, I doubt it reaches the suburban/rural demographic that represent most Scout units. I showed the trailer to my kids and they thought it was an episode of Law & Order; not something they can really related to. There's drinking, drugs, sex and crime in the schools but not really flagrant or pervasive.

Because of language, etc.

...and it had two B parts. That was a mess.

True...it may be a recent change. However, the SM and TC are responsible for making sure that rules and policies are followed. Something like the Eagle Workbook, which you see several times a year, should be something that SMs know by heart. If you have a dedicated Eagle coordinator/advisor, they should CERTAINLY know it by heart and make sure that the candidate is working with the SM to make sure everything is followed. I will grant you that it may be recent. Frankly I don't know when it was added. That said, you can't have it both ways. That is, when BSA makes a change you cannot us

Traffic would go faster too if people didn't slow down to look at wrecks on the other side of the highway. They do, it is human nature to be curious. Take it away, curiosity is channeled elsewhere.