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Jeanne,

Your son should have received a letter from the OA lodge giving details about his ordeal.Each Lodge(council)has it's own way of setting theses ordeals up.My council has quite a few camps and we have 6 ordeal dates and locations.The service

part of the ordeal involves getting the camps prepared for the Summer camp season.

I noticed one of the replies you got spoke of exspense.The ordeal charge in our

Lodge is $35 this covers the OA sash(which costs us $14),the OA handbook and the lodge pocket patch also 3 meals saturday and Sunday breakfast.

If you have not received this information.You should call the Council offices and

find out who to contact for specific information.The only thing you can exspect from a site with this broad a group of participants is general OA information or

missinformation from someone who assumes that every Lodge has the same procedure.

There are guidlines that we need to follow and this can be found on the national web sites.The actual details of how these guidlines are used is different

for each local organization.I hope this is helpfull.

Yours in Service,

Regi,OA chapter Advisor Sunset Trail chapter(District) Wauna La Mon'tay Lodge#442

I don't see a great need for an adult to be active in the chapter or lodge to be

a good Arrowman.If he is active in his troop,scout camp, district etc.then he is fullfilling his obligation to the order.It's good for the boys to see these active adults wearing their flap

All I ask is that they be aware of what the chapter/lodge is doing and paticipate where they can.

I'm the chapter advisor for a chapter that is larger than many lodges(around 300

registered members).Part of the advisors job is to be aware of the adult resources

in his chapter/lodge.I've found that I can always find adult help if I go to an individual and ask them to do a specific task.Don't get much if I just put out a general request.

As far as getting adults into the order.Each troop has the option of selecting

at least one adult if their unit elects a youth.

As an advisor I have the option of selecting District nominees if I feel like they would be an asset to the order.I've been told that I can be flexible with the camping requirement if I feel that the candidate would be an asset to the order and I feel that circumstances vindicate this.Maybe the person does not have the vacation time availiable to go to long term camp.I've had a candidate who could not fulfill the requirement because his time was spent staffing a Wood Badge session.

In our lodge there is no adult selection commitee.The selection is done within the unit commitee.Form needs to be signed by commitee chair and scoutmaster.

When I make a District nomination as an Advisor I need to get the approval of at

least one of the District key 3.I have never had a problem with this.