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  1. That 72 hour rule is per event, like a Summer Camp. If the event is longer than 72 hours, and you're there for longer than 72 hours, you must be registered. This has been discussed at great lengths here and on other forums. If it's, say, a weekend campout, which are typically less than 48 hours, you're okay. Note the word says "at the activity", not "not activities". "All adults accompanying a Scouting unit who are present at the activity for 72 total hours or more must be registered as leaders. The 72 hours need not be consecutive." The "need not be consecutive" part is so
  2. This was recently discussed on a forum on Facebook, and someone from the Supply Division on there said that if you contact them (I believe at the 800 number) they will mail you patch strips for free as replacements for as many shirts as you need them for. The patch strips have embroidered lettering instead of the iron-on type they had on these.
  3. Absolutely. There will be Scouts (and some adults) set up on every free piece of grass, picnic table and open spot you can think of doing trading. Trading is quite brisk in the camping areas, too, but of course that's off limits to visitors. Scouts would haul out their cots and set up on the service roads along the campsites to do their trading. Check out the lower portion of the Consol Energy Bridge, where there were good spots for trading during the '13 and '17 NSJs. A lot of trading also took place at the Scott Summit Center, but there were areas there where trading was not allowed to
  4. According to a New York Times story in 1973: "Scout officials felt that travel time to a single national jamboree was too long for many scouts and their families. And, in past years, some scouts were turned away from jamborees because the sites were full."
  5. You could also maybe change the sentence to say something like, "You are no longer a Cub Scout. Welcome to Scouts BSA," or "Your journey in Cub Scouts has come to an end. Welcome to your new journey in Scouts BSA." It would seem weird, sentence-wise, to say, "You are no longer a Cub Scout; you are now a Scout."
  6. Here in Ohio, there was a change made a few years ago where instead of requiring students to be in school for a specified number of days, they have switched to hours. School districts have built in so many extra hours into the school days, that you'd have to be out of school for at least a month before you'd have to make up any time. Ohio used to give 5 "calamity days" (to be used for anything, not just weather) but since switching to the hours-based approach, those calamity days have gone away. You just now need to be in school a specified number of hours during the year. And now
  7. Our Troop at Summer Camp has our first-year Scouts work on Leatherwork MB in camp, as we have an ASM who is a registered counselor for that badge. He spends more time on it than the group offering that the camp has and the Scouts tend to enjoy it more, we've found. We used to also offer Wood Carving MB in camp as we had a registered counselor for that badge as well, but that ASM has retired so we don't offer that in the campsite anymore. But it was very popular and well-enjoyed by the Scouts. They would each make a walking staff as one of their projects. Scouts still bring those staffs wi
  8. Time to run this further up the food chain. I think you, your COR and your Chartered Organization head should contact your Council Executive and make that person aware of what is happening, and that this is happening with the blessing of one of their unit commissioners. There's no "dismissing" necessary. This person is not a registered adult, so there is no dismissal that needs to take place. And yes, you are correct, Scouts are not permitted to operate power tools per the Guide to Safe Scouting, "Age Guidelines for Tool Use and Work at Elevations or Excavations." You must be 18 or o
  9. Regardless of whether you or anyone else signs this application--and you'd have to be off your rockers at this point if you did that--this application won't make it past the registrar's desk, for reasons that you mentioned in your original post. This person refuses to sign the religious principles declaration, he refuses to authorize a background check, and has admitted there are some issues that would potentially preclude his application from being accepted. That alone should make things a non-starter. The mistake, I think, happened, when you called a committee meeting, then had this per
  10. You as CC and the COR are both responsible for approving all adult leaders in your unit. Since you're both on the same page that this person should not be your CM, and it sounds like there are some red flags that would pop up on a background check, this should be a short meeting. You need to let this person know that their services are no longer needed. Inform your DE and unit commissioner of your decision. But ultimately the decision is all on you. Your council will let you know that this is a matter between you, your chartered organization, and the individual who wants to be your Cubma
  11. We sort through the donations our troop collects for SfF before we deliver it to the food bank. We separate out all the expired items, and we also sort it all into boxes by food type (all the canned peas in one box, all the creamed corn in another, etc.) The food bank we work with says they cannot distribute anything to people with an expiration past today. If the expiration date is 30 days past, they said they can set it out for anyone to take, but they cannot legally distribute it (so if we were doing it today, October 22, they could not set out anything for people to pick through with an ex
  12. Our troop is chartered to a Catholic church. Diocesan policy requires that any youth volunteer in a parish that has direct contact with children more than 3 times a month (teachers, CYO coaches, Scout leaders, etc.) has to take VIRTUS training (the Catholic church's version of YPT) and has to undergo a fingerprint and background check. And even if you had that exact same fingerprint and background check done for another organization (I have to do it as a volunteer at my kids' school), you have to do it again for the church.
  13. We do not automatically award Scout at crossover, because the Scouts don't know the material. I have no idea how they got the stuff signed off as Webelos Scouts, but when they join our Troop, it's amazing how many of them do not know the Scout Oath and Law (despite the fact that it's been part of the Cub Scout program since 2015), and they don't know the knots. That's just the beginning. If they simply demonstrated their knowledge after joining as the requirements state, that's one thing. But these Scouts are joining and we have to spend the first few weeks going over all the stuff they sh
  14. Take it to the dry cleaners. I have done that with uniform shirts that had Badge Magic applied to them. Bring a mesh laundry bag and tell them to dry clean the shirt in the laundry bag. The bag will catch the patches as they fall off. This is actually in the instructions for Badge Magic on how to remove patches and adhesive if you want to start over on a shirt. I've done this with a number of uniform shirts and they've all come out fine. The perchlorate used in standard dry cleaning dissolves the adhesive used in Badge Magic. It works better than Goo Gone. Not every dry cleaner
  15. Yes, the Girl Scouts views it as a recognition of their "highest award". They had a big celebration in 2016 to mark the 100th anniversary of the Gold Award and all its predecessors (although they just called it the "Gold Award 100th Anniversary"). All the logos had the current Gold Award with the number 100 next to it. They view the Gold Award as a progression of the highest Girl Scout award over the years: 1916-1919 Golden Eagle of Merit 1919-1939 Golden Eaglet 1940-1963 Curved Bar 1938-1940 & 1963-1980 First Class 1980-present Gold Award In 1990 a pro
  16. The point they were making was that there is no "submit your paperwork to National" for the Gold Award like we do for Eagle Scout. It's all handled at the council level. Some councils keep the paperwork on file of those that earn the Gold Award, others do not. But that's why you can't contact GSUSA headquarters to ask for verification of earning the Gold Award--they don't even know you earned it.
  17. That's because GSUSA doesn't know how many Gold Award recipients there are. Seriously. I recently toured the GSUSA headquarters in New York City with my daughter and they had a display section on the Gold Award. My daughter asked if she could look up her mom's listing of when she received the Gold Award. They told her they couldn't do that because they don't keep track of that information. When I asked them how that could be, they said that they have no national database of Gold Award recipients. They don't even know exactly how many of them there are. The closest they can get is ba
  18. Did he simply send a letter to the White House, or did he go through the White House Office of Greetings, the information for which is usually found through your Senator or Representative? The Office of Greetings is the department that actually processes requests for congratulatory letters.
  19. I don't think it really mattered in that it's probably good to be flexible if you can. Weather and other circumstances can affect when you think you will be going. For example, President Trump's visit last year meant that everyone planning to visit on that Monday weren't able to visit on that day since they closed the Jamboree to visitors. I think the chances of the President visiting next year are slim to none (the WSJ is put on by WOSM, not the BSA, and they have stated that they won't be extending an invitation to visit), so there shouldn't be any issues like that. The other issue
  20. The lines at the NSJ in 2017 weren't that bad, outside of the aerials. The introduction of the Jamboree app, with wait times posted like you'd have at an amusement park, helped greatly. Participants were limited to one aerial activity for the Jamboree, and a limited number of Scouts per troop got the chance to ride the Big Zip. This was all based on capacity constraints and how many people could realistically go through the aerial activities. If an area reached capacity and wouldn't be able to process any more than what was already in line, they would close the lines down for the remainder o
  21. The lower half of this map shows what is in the Summit Center. The Charlie and Delta base camps at the top of the map, and the Alpha and Bravo base camps at the right (on the other side of the Consol Energy Bridge), are off limits to visitors. http://44qx633l2wnm2ire6p28zc8u.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Justice-Scout-Camp-Map-1.pdf
  22. A day pass gets you into the Summit Center, which is the central hub of activity at The Summit. You cannot leave the Summit Center area and go to the base camp sites, even if you have a guide. But the Summit Center itself is big, over 350 acres. You will have access to: Summit Center Stadium (at the NSJ, the Saturday pass entitled you to stay around for the stadium show; otherwise you have to leave by 5:00 most days) Brownsea Island Sustainability Treehouse Scott Visitors Center Legacy Village Trading Posts Military exhibits Conservation Tr
  23. In order for U.S. girls to attend the WSJ they will need to be registered as Venturers at the time the WSJ starts.
  24. Units for the World Jamboree are set up at the regional, not council, level. Applicants must first get approval from their council, and then it goes on to the regional level for approval. This process is the same for youth and adult applicants. At this point, since there are so many slots remaining to be filled, unless your application throws up a giant red flag, you're going to get approved, whether that's as a youth or adult (unit leader or IST). The BSA has set a deadline of July 31, 2018 for accepting applications for the US contingent. The US has been allocated 180 units, the m
  25. You're probably going to need to be registered because in most councils, when you go to sign up the online registration form is likely going to ask you for your BSA ID number. They'll also want to associate the completion of the course to your record so that would be the other need to be registered in advance. You'll need to have taken YPT before turning in your application, anyway, so you can at least get a myScouting account set up and take YPT while you work on the application.
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