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Thanks to everyone who has responded. This is a young scout (I call him Bill) who transferred from a troop that folded. There were MANY problems with the other troop (I know because my son was with that troop for about a year). Due to the fact that Bill was in the other troop for approx 2.5 years and there was poor if any record keeping, we allowed the scouts (mostly the parents) to tell us what they had completed with the prior troop. This was not taken lightly and a lecture was given about scouts being trustworthy.

Of all the scouts that came from the other troop (they joined in approx Aug of 05) Bill has come every time before a COH with MB completions and said, OH, I did this with my other troop. Bills documentation consisted mostly of MB worksheets with initials. As the Advancement person I have questioned this, but the SM has accepted this on faith. I have known Bill was being dishonest for some time but couldn't prove it until now. On this occasion Bill used a 2006 MB requirements book (the one with the requirements for all the MB's). He forged the old SMs initials (not a full signature). Because my son used to be with the other troop I know the initials didnt look right. There was the proof in B&W. Remember after much discussion we did get him to admit that he lied.

I doubt the committee will seek the help of law enforcement. We will probably take care of this internally, however I will make sure that the scout knows the severity of what he did.

Forgery is a serious and if left unpunished this could lead to bigger crimes. We will use this as a learning experience not only for Bill but the other scouts in our troop.

Again thanks to everyone who have offered suggestions of how to handle out situation.

We have a scout that forged an Eagle Required MB so that he could be advanced to the next rank. During his Life BOR and after much discussion he finally confessed. I need suggestions of how to handle this situation.

OK but the following inforatmion was taken directly from the Jamboree web site.

Representatives of 25 Countries Attend Jamboree

The BSA's International Division extended an invitation to attend the 2005 National Scout Jamboree to all national Scout associations that are members of the World Organization of the Scout Movement. Associations from 25 countries responded to the invitation and sent more than 180 Scouts and 50 leaders to Fort A.P. Hill.

9 A)Attend a World Jamboree. Could you not count National Jamboree for 9 B) Take part in an international event in your area since there were scouts from around the world there. If my memory is correct there was even an international day.

Thanks to everyone who replied. I am not sure how this discussion has turned into worthiness of Eagle, however let me say that it is highly unlikely that he will ever earn it. My intension was to get advice about what I should do as a Scouter. I am taking nldscout advice and writing a letter of NON-Recommendation. Here is why! After he was identified, his ASM, mother, and I went with the police to discuss the matter. At that time I was leaning toward just letting him pay me back, and not have him charged. I know people make mistakes. His just happened to be a felony. I didnt want to jeopardize his Eagle. I knew he was less than 6mo. from this 18 and he was still working on his project. However his actions when questioned by the police spoke volumes about his character. He actually said to the officer, and his mother There isnt a d$mn thing you can do to me. Instead of me calling the officer the next day and let him know what I wanted to do, the officer called and told me that he was already charged. I havent witnessed any remorse for his crimes only that he is sorry he got caught. I do believe that people can change. I hope he can change. I hope that by allowing him to stay in the troop, the leaders can show him what living by the Scout Oath and Law are all about. It will take a long time for people to look at him as trustworthy, if ever. There is a reason that the first point of the Scout law is Trustworthy. Before someone jumps on me, I know the other points are no less important. During my time with the scouts I have met excellent SMs and ASMs who didnt earn their Eagle. This boy can turn his life around, if he does what a testimony.

OK, let me give a little more information. He has appeared in court where he pled guilty. He was given 200 hours community service (the judge actually said I want blood, sweat, tears), none of which could be used for scouts, restitution to myself, no participation in scouts until Jan 31 when he must appear in court again when the case was deferred I think was the word they used. He has yet to appear in court of the theft. The evidence shows; him on surveillance tape using the card(s) and he made a sworn statement to the police admitting guilt. His troop knows about the incident as well as the district, and council which we are both part. I actually found out at the last court appearance that his troop made him the Troop Instructor. Whats he going to instruct, Thieving 101? How would your council, Scoutmasters, troop committees handle this situation? Would he still be in Scouts if he were one of yours?

Yes, he was identified by an ASM in his home troop. Because he stole the cards in one county and used them in another he has multiple court appearance. His charges were: Felony Larceny, Felony Possession of Stolen Goods, and 2 counts of Financial Transaction Fraud. The DE is also aware of this as I reported it to him the day the boy was identified and subsequently charged. Nldscout thanks for your reply. Bob White I was only asking for guidance I guess I didnt come across that way. My son and I have been registered Scout/Scouter for less than two years and I was only wondering if like situations were being handled similarly within other council, troop and chartered organizations.

While attending a Scout function at a local Boy Scout Camp, my debit and credit cards were stolen. Through some diligent work on my part, I had the scout identified from surveillance tape, using my card, then called the police. At the time this scout was the SPL and close to Eagle. This boy is still in scouts. WHY? What part of the scout law has he not broken? I know the BSA is supposed to lead and guide boys into adulthood, but are we supposed to rehabilitate felons? If my son would have done this I would have been so embarrassed I would have removed him myself.

Couldn't edit my previous message.

I ment to say... He is extremely picky and wants his uniform to be perfect.

My son joined Cub Scouts on September 1 2003. He crossed over to Boy Scouts on May 31, 2004. How would he correctly calculate the service star(s). Please note that being prior service I have been very picky with him about his uniform, my efforts in training him have been very successful. He is not extremely picky and wants his uniform to be perfect. He wants to be an example for the other youth in his Troop. Thanks for your help.

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