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  1. Foil cooking is great!!! For burgers use onions or cheap zucchini squash inside the foil, it provides moisture. The kids don't have to eat it, but it keeps the burger from burning and gives one a safety factor on cook time.

     

    Try ice cream in two plastic ZIPLOCK bags. A sandwich bag contains 1/2 &1/2 , sugar, and a bit of vanilla. You can find the recipe on line. the second bag is a one gallon bag and contains crushed ice and table salt.

     

    Hold the bag in your gloved hands(the boys did bring some cotton gloves? gathering wood, holding the bottom of a mess kit containing hot food, handling hot foil meals.) Cheap cotton gloves are worth the weight. Shake ,squeeze ,shake some more (of course you'll try it at home first) until you have droopy, sloppy ice cream. The GS have been doing this for years with two cans with lids. It is fun.

     

     

    Cook popcorn in a D.O. most kids have only had microwave popcorn. Once they try real oil popped corn they think it is special. When my son was a DC his cubs thought he was the greatest.

     

    Try a banana cooked in foil. Add mini marshmallows and mini chocolate drops top with whipped cream. Cook for 10 minutes (no food poisoning if under cooked)

     

    Now FLOTUS would like to send me to a "re-education camp" for suggesting such fattening fair but what the heck.

     

    so enough about food.....

     

    I don't think 1 1/2 hours is long enough for fishing if you have cooperative bluegills. It could be way too long if there are no fish. The first time you fish with a young boy he better catch something. I know kids need to learn that it is called "fishing" and not "catching". I'm talking first experience here. Explain catch and release, insure the boys respect the fish. If you wish to keep some kill them right away. I cannot stand to see fish help out of water for one moment longer than necessary to properly release them.

     

     

    your schedule looks great otherwise and I think you are a heck of a leader to bring the boys on this type of trip. Way too many people are mailing it in these days.

     

     

    Remember McKnight's Maxim-"I 'm having fun, the boys are having fun, what the heck is your problem?"

     

    My problem was I was wigging out about schedule, perfection and a multitude of other things. Think about safety, comfort of the boys and making sure it is fun for them.

     

    Two more things. Bring plenty of trash bags and paper towels.

     

    Bring a five gallon pail----fill it--- and explain to the boys that is the first step to building a fire---be able to get water a few feet away to put it out.

     

    3/4 of the Earth surface is covered with water ---it sometimes falls on our heads------- what is your rainy day plan????????

     

     

    That is 3 things. But you need a rainy day plan.

     

    Do all your boys have a whittling chip?

     

    Again best of luck and thank you for helping the boys.

     

  2. One of the best Scouts I ever met gave a posthumous mentor award, I told him to.

     

    His thoughts were how can I do this the man is dead? Well the military gives awards like that all the time.

     

    The Eagle did improvements to a NY State Park. The Park Manager had a negligent discharge with a handgun after hunting on Thanksgiving day. He died immediately.

     

    We contacted the Park staff told them what the boy Eagle wanted. The Park Staff contacted the wife. The Eagle had his ceremony and when the time came he asked Mrs. Parkmanager to come up. He read something to her and pinned the mentor pin to her jacket.

     

    My son was one of the boys in the Troop and greatly admired the Eagle(he was my son's Den Chief) and remarked, "I was crying, she was crying and Chuck was crying. I could'nt hear what he said to her before he gave her the pin but I'm sure it was important to her."

     

    It will make to NOK remember what his/her loved one did for you.

     

    Congrats on your coming advancement.

  3. Nobody said what the boy did.

     

    I would want to know:

     

    IS this boy a DANGER to the boys who play by the rules?

     

    What "leadership challenges" is he going to give me(a volunteer part time person who is not a child shrink)?

     

    What "leadersip challenges" is he going to give one of my 15 year old young PL and my SPL's if he tries his crap again?

     

    What kids am I liable to lose?

     

     

     

     

    This kid and his parents have to realize that your reputation follows you where ever you go.

     

    Reading some of the answers here is is easy to see how Catholic Priests are shuffled from town to town and given a new crop of lives to ruin.

     

    I only hope your daughters don't date the local Vandersloot wannabee's and you sit around a hospital waiting room asking "how did this happen", wake up! evil exists and it thrives in a society where people are unwilling to see things as they are.

  4. Wing,

     

    Mr S. lives on in every boy you mentor. The boys are in a way his "Scouting Grandsons". His legacy is far greater than men who's names will go down in history, the men he makes through you will never know his name yet Mr. S. made boys better than they would have been.

     

    The Christmas movie with Jimmy Stewart comes to mind...imagine if 20 years from now Mr S. had never been alive...would a boy know CPR, would a boy save a drowning victim by swimming out to a victim and extend a tree limb and towing some child to safety.... more simply would a boy who is a grown man offer to carry an old woman's bag in a busy airport terminal to help her catch a flight?

     

    I'd say Mr S. is going to be contibuting for a long time.

  5. Personal Experience as Den Leader and father of DC:

     

    Once a camping trip mixed between Troop and Pack to go to FT Ticonderoga. Youngest boy scouts in troop attending. Pack is doing family camping to go to FT next day. Boy Scouts are acting nuts for the most part, one comes up to me and says,"Excuse me Mr UZ... Can you show me how to orient this map with the compass?"

    Holy cow who is this kid, watched him the rest of the weekend...I WANT THIS KID AS THE DC.

     

    1. Kid was only second class.

    2. Kid had never been a Cub Scout.

    As jblake says this may have ended it right there. This isn't physics where you can't bend the law of the universe.

     

    DC was great, stayed with it for two years. We then got 3 cubs from that den (when they became second class) to be DC because of the job my DC did.

     

    You MUST insure the DC has every opportunity to earn the red white and blue rope.(don't cheat the requirements)

     

    You MUST be flexible on both sides. let the Scout miss some den functions and some troop functions equally if there is conflict.

     

    You MUST see that his parents are on board, extra driving, and all else this entails.

     

    You MUST have the DC talk about what the Troop and his Patrol are doing every Den Meeting.

     

    Encourage the DC to go to Cub Camp with the Den.

     

    You MUST communicate with the DC parents giving them ample prep and hashing out conflicts in the schedule.

     

    You MUST give the DC a task or two every neeting. Let him teach something ALONE. You as the DL go on the other side of the room and staighten up your paperwork or look busy doing something else. LET THE DC LEAD!

     

    You MUST have a planning meeting with the DC where you look a couple or 3 months in advance and plan activities that the DC can lead.

     

    You MUST get the DC his own copy of the book the Cubs are using for their appropriate age. I once gave a Scout a Scoutmaster conference, he had been a DC for 6 months and could not tell me what year the cubs were that he was serving. How involved was this boy scout? (Not to worry his daddy made sure he made Eagle at 14 years old.)

     

    Finally, NEVER have the Den Leader be the parent, the DC be one son and have another son be a cub in the Den. IT NEVER WORKS.

    No doubt we will hear from some special folks out there who made it work but by and large there is too much family there.

     

    I think the DC is a very important part of Scouting and I wish evey den had the same experience my son, my DC and I did. The benefits to the cubs, the DC, the Troop and the pack are long term and many. Pick the right kid and run with it.

     

    The first one is the toughest.

  6. I was in an infantry BN at Camp Swampy (Camp Lejeune).

     

    I did not have a child/was not married then.

     

    I would agree with getting a mix of adults on your committee

     

    I cannot imagine being a Dad/ Adult leader/ Marine Gunny or Major and serving the demands of being in the weeds learning and doing work ups to deploy. You can expect those Marines in infantry regiments to be in the field 3 weeks out of the month. Some other Marines can work a 9 to 5 type job,I never saw it but it can happen. Liberty is a privilege not a right.

     

    A Marine will give you all he's got but he serves another master.

     

    Ask what his job is, have him communicate with you on what his level of commitment can be.

     

     

    Help them, help their sons.

  7. I think we also teach boys to use the rescources they have available.

    That said there is not a HS english teacher in America that would not help a student make the Eagle paperwork the best it can be.

     

     

     

    Advise him to get with Mrs SOANDSO to help him complete the app , it is important.

     

    You let this go by and the kid thinks filling in the college app is the same way.

     

     

    WE all need the Cub motto when it comes to the Eagle process

  8. no app required here either.

     

    My son was a DC for years and no app. I had a DC for 2 never heard of such a thing

     

     

    Compiled a book of activities for DC and this is the first mention of this I have heard in 9 years of being an adult in scouting.

     

     

    Call a neighboring council and ask a DE for the application.

  9. Some low brow, bi racial, near sighted,hair thinning, overweight, Christian, hetero,Father, conservative,gun owning, Marine vet(Kuwait and Beirut),Committee Member wonders why they lawsuits just don't stop.

     

    So we are off AP Hill and a little village near me can't be our CO. Does that make America better? Do they feel like big winners?

     

    Then not a dime of the $15 would be spent on frivolous, whiney lawsuits. Could probably get more boys with the saved money.

     

    Cut Mazzuca's pay, pay him what the POTUS makes along with a house near Irving not a dime more.

     

    Sounds pretty easy to me but given all the labels that apply to me, you can see how I think that way.

     

    A court in California just ruled it was ok to lie about being a MOH recipient under the heading of "freedom of speech". We have not all lost our minds like the 9th Circuit.

     

     

  10. I would echo both those gents.

     

    Think simple.

    Get the exisitng Scouts to bring a buddy to a simple overnight at a council camp. Go fishing. Make pies in a dutch oven. Make popcorn in a dutch oven with real butter. Teach a non Scout how to make pancakes. Teach a boy to paddle a canoe. Most Scout aged boys have never piloted anything more than a bicycle. Flip over rocks in a stream. skip stones off the water. Enjoy a good campfire.

     

    The buddy already in the troop is a huge motivation.

    Invite the parents of the prospects also.

  11. I stand corrected CP.

     

    How does all this stand with what Mrs. Clinton said when she shreiked,"We have a right to debate......!"

     

    She said not to question her patriotism.

     

    So do children lose their rights once they don the BSA uniform?

     

    While I would agree the Adults who do not like the President should have remained quiet, I don't know if I would demand that the boys not express their opinion. According to some of you that would make me a bad Scouter. I think it's best to let them have their say, sit down and shut up and listen in that order.

     

    A lot of times I have been the hard nose on here for complaining about wearing flip flops to an Eagle Court of honor, earings with a uniform(I must have missed it on the inspection sheet) and other stuff that has pinned my conduct meter. I even got reported to the Scout Exec once for complaing that a cub was touching the magician and his things during his act at a B&G dinner.

     

    What happened to live and let live with you people?

     

    If this was the All hated Bush would you all be shocked and upset. Please.

  12. My son got caught up in the patch trading bit and the patch of the day.

    He was in line everyday for the patch of the day by 8am.

     

    I agree there should have been 2010 at each trading post with a limit of one. Then somewhat unique, but not extreme

     

    I detest the fact somebody is already selling the set. It's almost worth my ebay account to let it get run up high and welch on him.

     

    I was in line on Sunday and somebody in my son's troop asked me to get him a duplicate. I like the boy very much, but simply told him, "Some kid is standing back there hoping he is going to get one, I'm not going to break his heart so you can have two."

     

    My son came away with some Red Sox/Boston/Ironsides Patches from The Minuteman Council. (Fill in shameless plug for CAMP Sayre here---STAY AT CAMP SAYRE WHEN GOING TO BOSTON!!!!!). He got a multi patch back patch from Long Island near the Grumman Plant. It had the A 10 A6 and other assorted jets. The X men CSP's were very nice. Finally some with Snoopy. All nice stuff. I had no idea about the restrictions on commercial stuff even with permission.

     

    I was hoping he came away with some names and emails from some kids from far away but no dice. I would like him to be able to say he knows some Scout in Alaska and California.

     

    I'd like to see what TROGERS said implemented. Some kind of catalog site so the boys know what to look for and what council has what.

     

    Somebody spoke of rockers my son focused his energy there but was mistaken about how many activities you had to do to qualify. Oh well he just did more stuff that's all. He did not earn one maerit badge but had fun throwing a hachet.

     

    Our council has Silver Bay on Lake George--site of the first BSA campout in America. We also have the home of the song Yankee Doodle. We have the battle of Saratoga. Most of all we have the home of Uncle Sam(he was born in Conn. ),but he became Uncle Sam here . Ft Ticonderoga is also in our Council

    It would have been great to see a multi patch with all that on it.

    I don't know how much history kids really learn these days or how important it is to them.

  13. My son got caught up in the patch trading bit and the patch of the day.

    He was in line everyday for the patch of the day by 8am.

     

    I agree there should have been 2010 at each trading post with a limit of one. Then somewhat unique, but not extreme

     

    I detest the fact somebody is already selling the set. It's almost worth my ebay account to let it get run up high and welch on him.

     

    I was in line on Sunday and somebody in my son's troop asked me to get him a duplicate. I like the boy very much, but simply told him, "Some kid is standing back there hoping he is going to get one, I'm not going to break his heart so you can have two."

     

    My son came away with some Red Sox/Boston/Ironsides Patches from The Minuteman Council. (Fill in shameless plug for CAMP Sayre here---STAY AT CAMP SAYRE WHEN GOING TO BOSTON!!!!!). He got a multi patch back patch from Long Island near the Grumman Plant. It had the A 10 A6 and other assorted jets. The X men CSP's were very nice. Finally some with Snoopy. All nice stuff. I had no idea about the restrictions on commercial stuff even with permission.

     

    I was hoping he came away with some names and emails from some kids from far away but no dice. I would like him to be able to say he knows some Scout in Alaska and California.

     

    I'd like to see what TROGERS said implemented. Some kind of catalog site so the boys know what to look for and what council has what.

     

    Somebody spoke of rockers my son focused his energy there but was mistaken about how many activities you had to do to qualify. Oh well he just did more stuff that's all. He did not earn one maerit badge but had fun throwing a hachet.

     

    Our council has Silver Bay on Lake George--site of the first BSA campout in America. We also have the home of the song Yankee Doodle. We have the battle of Saratoga. Most of all we have the home of Uncle Sam(he was born in Conn. ),but he became Uncle Sam here . Ft Ticonderoga is also in our Council

    It would have been great to see a multi patch with all that on it.

    I don't know how much history kids really learn these days or how important it is to them.

  14. Eagle 92,

     

    I've never heard 4 gallons thru the body.

     

    Been to MCRD PISC, AMPIP REF TRNG at Little Creek,Norway (twice), 29 Palms 5 times, Saudi and Kuwait,Camp Ripley Minn and Bridgeport Calif.

     

    Mostly what I heard and preached was that you must drink enough so that your urine is as clear as possible. Yellow urine drink more, Dark yellow urine you could be too far gone already.

     

    It was easy in the snow because the designated areas told the whole story for a tent team commander.

    It was harder in the snow because thirst was not a big factor. The cold shuts off your limbs and forces you to expel a perceived excess.Double Whammy. Plus you may not feel thirsty as readily in the cold.

     

    And yes most places the water tasted like crap and worse. In Lebanon is was the worst but I saw a lot of Marines get Dysentary(sp?) from food in town.

     

    The problem is today we live in an air conditioned environment with by and large not a lot of activity.

     

    A Scoutmaster who works as an asphalt paver is going to fair a lot better than a stockbroker in an office. Likewise a kid that works a farm bringing hay and the kid that plays video games all day.

     

    One luxury in the field at 29 Palms, Calif was a mid day bag of ice per platoon. Cold water and drink mix always goes down much easier.

  15. Sure Gern, Let's make everybody watch a video.

     

    I remember after Tailhook , I had to give a mandatory 45 minute class to a company of reserve Marines who were not at the Tailhook party.

    That approach is just plain stupid. It does not address the core issue.

     

    I stated before, I served a long time to make sure kids can say anything they want to about the nation's leaders, let's keep it that way.

     

    I also stated that I was there that night. It certainly was not everyone in the crowd. As a slice of the nation 54% could have drown out the rest.

     

    This guy ain't Jesus. He has said many times he is not in a popularity contest he believes he is fighting everyday for the right thing. I respect him for that, I think he 's wrong, but he's a fighter.

     

    As far as national demanding something, we can't get so many things right as it is. If National demanded that I think I would defy it. Maybe we should can those who disagree with all BSA policies. Some little skinny guy, who was very bright said, "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."

     

    As for my character, don't worry Gern I'm doing ok.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Balance here was deleted by me it started saying a bunch of things that were true but not part of the discussion.

  16. Geez Gern,

    Your goat's really been gotten!!!

     

    Many, many people do not like this President. Many , Many did not like the one before him.

     

    I don't think BO is sitting in the Oval office wondering how to get back at the BSA.

     

    These kids are a section of the nation, not one bit better or worse than the nation they come from.

     

    Bando said the BSA has to live with being homophobic. Maybe Mr. Obama has to live with calling me a bitter clinger.

     

    Again I said not a word during his speech. I guess I'm still free to think what I want, I don't think this guy is the best thing for America and I will vote likewise the next opportunity I get.

     

    I'd wager I'm quite a bit darker skinned than most on here so please don't assume it's a race thing. I am judging the man by his ideals and his experience.

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