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Gern, Is it possible he gave them to somebody else prior to us invading. I don't know who. I just ask if it's possible. Saddam's list of people to fear Kurds Iranians Imperialist oil hungry America (at least that's what the TV says we are) Hmmmm, I kill one for sport before breakfast. The second I battled for 8 years to stalemate. The third went from "go" to 20 some days of bombing to standing on my throat and threatening to cut off my soft parts in 4 days. Has an Air force I can't see or touch. And somebody that looked remotely like me recently killed 3000 peo

Anybody looking for WMD can go exhume some 5 year old Kurdish children and look in their lungs. Poison gas is a WMD. Nobody cared about those five year olds. Little brown kids don't get much press unless the US did it. If Saddam had no WMD why didn't he simply comply with the UN demand for inspection? If he had nothing to hide, why not let folks look. If the inspections had occured ,no way would any invasion ever have taken place. No matter what side of the aisle you are on you cannot answer that question. Why didn't he let people look if he had nothing to hide? Don't tell me natio

No sir, not at all. If I had waited ,I would not have gotten a DC at all. My son was a DC and an APL at the same time. I also consulted with the SM and since the DC candidiate thought it was ok the SM said ok. Not every Troop marches to the beat of the handbook. Some Troops have PL's that swear at the Scouts and need to be releived. Some Troops have SPL's that are worthless. A DL is not always likely to have contact with the feeder troop. The SPL may not be aware of the need. That's how I did it bob, I'm going to be the SM in a couple of weeks I'll be sure to do it the ot

Bob, Ursus asked for what worked. I know 20 cubs that were enriched this way. But I thank you for the handbook directive. I can't undo the fun the boys had. If the SPL picks a Scout to do it, and the Scout doesn't want to, does the SPL apply servant leadership and do the the additional task. We have SPL's that can't run a police call, you really expect them to pick/ "order" a boy to do a year long position? Please, the BSA just had me vote yes on a BOR for Eagle because the "be active" wording should be "at a minimum pay $11.00 per year and be counted/carried on the rolls of a unit

First, Remember what Stosh said on another thread. Rank and age aside, it is the spirit of the Boy scout that will determine if he is a good DC. I have only seen three successful DC in 7 years, and 5 failures. Failure being defined as the DC not staying for a year , not doing the job, saying yes and then not even attending a meeting. 1 Criteria: Two of the DC that met with success both went to Council/District day long training. I don't know how much it helped in the end but at least it told the DC's what to do. "Wasting" a Saturday away from the Pirates of the Carib video game do

the comment Stosh made rings clear. Rank is not the sole measure of the boy and more than wealth being the measure of having class. You do have to look at the spirit of the boy. This boy is too young by your decription. Get him some training for DC and towards first class and let him grow.

iS THIS BOY AN OLDER BROTHER OF ONE OF THE CUBS? oops caps. Is this an older brother? Maybe the thing do do is read him the lit where it says you have to be a first class. Tell him you made the mistake and tell him when he is a First Class that you would be happy to have him back. May even spur him to "turn to" on the first class items. Back to the older brother question. Sometimes the family dynamic isn't great between the leader and the led. Might be better if all the cubs were strangers to start.

I think this is one of the reasons they think you should be a First Class Scout before doing this POR. Real live normal first class scouts that really know their stuff are about 15 months out of the pack and know what they are there for. Some like my DC years back and my son who just completed his were second class at the start but went to first before their tenure was up. You folks blew it by allowing this. Find a way to say he can do it again later, have the SM give him a very likable very good POR that will help the boy out of the situation with some dignity. Going only from

Never went, never thought about going. I would like my son to go. What uniform parts will be allowed for the Jamboree? How does this work

Stosh, Kudos to you for the mother analogy. I'm going to use it. I'll say, "Someone once said.....

This would all be so easy if the boys just showed up and did the program. We ague endlessly over what active is, some here don't like the idea of Eagles who fall off the turnip truck and suddenly want the award even though half the first class scouts don't know who he is, some of us would morph the english language just to have kids get what they want.Parents suing to get their little boy an award that is supposed to mean something. Why can't the boys make time for Scouting and why can't we tell them no? What are we afraid of?

Lawsuits because the kid didn't make Eagle?!?!?!?!!? National fears these idiots?!?!?! We sure are teaching them about how to be Americans, sue and you'll get your way. I thought we only had to keep them from getting abused, hurt on a camping trip or keep the water out of their lungs while boating and swimming. Now we have to preserve their self esteem for not doing their job. I do agree about the counselling , it's just most of the leaders I have seen don't have the stomach to do it. The world is nut's. In the 1980's they wouldn't let me join the military i

My son was truly blessed to have a heck of a nice kid as a den chief. I was the Den Leader and the DC stayed for 2 years. He was the SPL when the den crossed over. I asked him along with his parents to undertake the task. Kid was never a cub. He is currently one MB from Eagle. My son just did about 14 months as a DC. He liked it , he liked the boys, the boys liked him. My son has his BOR for star coming up. Good sevice was modelled by the older boy , my son just copied it. I think you have to make sure the DC parents buy off on the concept. They will be running around for materi

I wonder how many uniforms they sold? If BSA National was run like a business somebody's head would roll for the ad campaign that flopped.

There is no shortage of ideas on how to reach the folks that are not buying the traditional program. We saw a soccer program for Cubs earlier. It looked like it was mostly for hispanic kids but I'm sure it was for all soccer kids. How many kids enrolled in this? was it considered a success? Has anybody seen this in their area? Does anybody have any hard facts, or know where they are on the ISH (infosupahiway)? We can talk about how to handle the influx of those eight million boys we will have if we would just allow gay men to lead and drop the DRP another time. Think of all

Trev, I don't want to sound like aged flatulence here but does each generation try to out do the past one in outlandish acts? Many of these were not practiced by youth but older people during the time. 1950's DA haircuts, greasers, gangs that fought with fists 1960's sexual rev, really awful music, even worse clothing, hair, drugs 1970's really really bad clothing, hair, drugs 1980's drugs, some bad music 1990's to present tatoos etc. I wonder how long it is until HS seniors are submitting to pinky amputation or something else for shock and unique

Nope I did not get the tattoo and I do not wish that I had. I could get one tomorrow and I could even afford it this time. As far as the Asian meaning stuff. There was a sitcom where two guys were commenting in one's new tattoo. The marked man said, "It means FIRE and STRENGTH" about that time the take out delivery chinese boy enters and says "No it not mean that, it means when two men love each other, you are the woman" I thought it was funny as all get out not because of the Asian or love preference but just because there is a heck of alot of Americans that could be sold a bil

This Marine went shopping on Court St. In Jacksonville, NC for a tattoo. In those days Court St. was the place to be for wayward idiots or those who liked watching wayward idiots. Well the tatoo I wanted was $85. When you make $550 monthy, Uncle Sam takes like $80 and you send home $200 to save for a car,and you stash $100 for College. Phone bill to call your girl is about $40. Lets just say $85 was a heck of a lot for a pretty scar on your arm. No leader or parent currently has a tattoo in my Troop.

Sorry Pack, for my iggggnoorince I never earned the merit badge or I may have known that. My low brow view is that there are good bugs and bad bugs. Pack, how do you bear to share the planet with us cretins? Also, unless they be mayfly, caddis, stonefly or terrestrial I could care.

Let's remember we are talking about bugs here. They eat you when they can, if we were their size they would tear our soft flesh with relish. Some folks think they may have souls, and that's ok but let's remember we live in a country that pays to abort humans. I once had a vegan tell me she wouldn't eat anything with a face, but if you stepped near her right to clear up last months oopsie then you were in for a fight. Irony. Horseflies Ticks deerflies ants earwigs roaches green eyed manure flies cluster flies fruit flies common house fly Stink bugs cucumber

Wow! Let's try that again in English I am thinking that they mentor the younger Scouts in accordance with the ideals of being boy led. Hopefully some older Scout mentored them and the should mentor another Scout or hopefully Scouts. (plural) But it sure as heck ain't required by National, so you're right it's a chuck load of hooey. 15 and 16 year olds who can give back can breed a culture of "let's make this better" People desire to play on a winning team. The helping spirit of a Troop can perpetuate that uplift in a community. We are a tribal species, if the b

I am thinking that they mentor the younger Scouts in accordance with the ideals of being boy led. Hopefully some older Scout mentored them and the should mentor another Scout of hopefully Scouts. But it sure as heck ain't required by National, so your right it's a chuck load of hooey.

We just hosted the Spring Campo and it took about 4 months. The theme was Scout Olympics with various events from shooting, to archery, relay race. tug of war, jousting and about a dozen other major and minor sporting events. 350 kids attended. they had a blast. Good luck with yours, delegate, superivise tasks before hand and insure the prep is done and rest up. It will be a sleepless weekend, enjoyable but sleepless.

Frankly what is most shocking is the way people seem to enjoy the fact that a Scout does not have to be present to win the Eagle award. Being right seems to be more fun than attempting to make it better. No where in the Scout book does it say we have to where trousers but we do because it implied that we do. I am going to submit acco's post for review by Council. Things need changing at least that's what 50% of America and one modern day savior say.

I've got 50 different kinds of horse flies and deer flies they can have