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  1. 32 minutes ago, blw2 said:

    I'm not so sure I totally agree.  I think scouts is about a group of friends, usually 6-8 of them, getting together to do fun stuff together as a patrol.  In the process they practice leadership, learn skills, and all sorts of stuff.  Sure, the 'game' of scouts is outdoor oriented but isn't that only because the idea is that boys get so much good out of being outside?

    Sure it wouldn't count towards nights camped, it probably shouldn't  be encouraged as a regular thing....but I'd liken it to a patrol getting together for a game of basketball at the scout hut. 

    A special event, fun, leaders lead, .....

    Sometimes the Patrols meet up for a movie, a house sleep over, or meet up to eat. I see that as a plus as long as some camping gets done too.

  2. 10 minutes ago, Jameson76 said:


    In looking at the approved and provided photo (graphic??), Family Scouting also does NOT include:

    • Only children families
    • Families with more than three children
    • Children more than 3 years apart unless the youngest is an infant
    • Single parents (male)
    • Single parents (female)
    • Families with children of the same gender
    • Male parents shorter than the female parents
    • Bald parents
    • Frowning 

    Inter-racial parents. 

    Fat Parents

    Fat Turtles

  3. Threat (Social Media) to high school near us in Tampa, arrest made. Son's school announced all classroom doors locked at all times now.

    I am not going to debate the issue on this forum. As this is a Florida issue I have already made my opinions known to my state and federal representatives. I am surprised at how quick parents have organized in the last 24 hours; I imagine it is more intense further south. It is an election year for many.

  4. 12 minutes ago, Scoutmaster Teddy said:

    Same thing happened to me as Scoutmaster. Another Troop in our Council never had an election even though Scouts were eligible. Apparently the Troop had no idea how to ask for an election. Council Office, Commissioner, other OA members - have you heard of it? Our election team last year told me that the Scouts had to have one more than one-half. Twelve Scouts voted - six "ayes" and six "nays." So, we voted again. I used my phone to read of copy of the OA's election guidance and set the election straight. Now we have new Lodge Bylaws that designate only trained OA members may conduct elections.

    We just had an election and a (new?) OA video discusses that if you have no opinion do not turn in a ballot and if you think no one deserves it then by all means turn in a ballot. Then the Lodge representative mentioned the options again. So, at least in our Lodge (good 'ol Uh-To-Yeh-Hut-Tee) progress is being made. (Thanks Gene!)

  5. 15 hours ago, Eagle1993 said:

    We had parents of one of our scouts present at the Las Vegas shooting.  The father is a hunter and immediately recognized the sound of bullets going thru the air, so he and his wife ran immediately out of the area being targeted.  The mother comforted one of the victims who was shot through the neck.  It was incredibly traumatic event for both involved.

    I remember as a youth when we only did Tornado and fire drills... now these kids perform lockdown drills.  It really puts the problems in your life in perspective. 

    Nothing new does not equate with doing nothing. Fire Codes were strengthened after Our Lady of the Angels. 

  6. 13 minutes ago, Back Pack said:

    My old high school just had a kid bring an unloaded gun to school today. It was just posted to the news 15 mins ago. 

    Bad timing. 

    45 minutes ago, David CO said:

    It is very sad. Unfortunately, it is nothing new.  I think the Bath School Massacre (1927) is still considered by many to be the worst school attack in U.S. history.

    Nothing new (I knew about that one BTW) but what would the historic pattern per 1,000 student population be? 

  7. I do not see what the problem is. If one does not want to buy creepy technology by all means avoid it. It does bring up an interesting issue that pops up here from time to time and that is the erosion of scout skills such as map and compass, orienteering, etc because of false confidence on technology. I teach emergency prep MB and I often ask boys what they would do IF (something like(A man is clutching his neck and falling over. He seems to be gesturing wildly at you. Is he choking? What do you do?) and I keep getting growing numbers of boys thinking "call 911" is the the answer. I see the same problem with many of the adult leaders on the AT hikes. They over rely on staying on the well marked trail or their phones to keep them from getting lost. 

    Besides I wouldn't want the blockchain signal when I am running from the self aware killer drones. Though this fat turtle sends out a whopping IR signal I am sure.

  8. 2 hours ago, cyphertext said:

    Don't knock the "sit upon"....  Use one when dove hunting.  Has a cooler liner to keep my water and Gatorade cold while in the field!


    I made one (a scout is thrifty) it has a plywood seat, is orange, and says "home depot". The seat is bolted, sealed with silicon, and attached to one of those water proof screw lids. Good for canoe camping.

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  9. 23 minutes ago, Eagle94-A1 said:

    Part of the reason for the AOL is to prepare them for Boy Scouts. Engaging with a troop has been one of the requirements since as long as I can remember, and if memory serves, one of the original requirements. Heck I remember when a man had to be the WDL to simulate Boy Scouts more closely.

    One of the challenges i've found is that Scouts do not stay around for long if they do NOT engage with a troop. Give you an example. For the past 2 years, the Webelos from our feeder troop have not camped with us. One den visited us at camp for a few hours and left,  the other den used the joint Scouting for Food activity for the outdoor requirement. 4/5s remain of the first den, and 1of 3 remain from the second den. Contrast that with camping and it is much higher. Out of oldest son's den 2 of the 4 camped with the troop, and hte other two transfered over because of them. Middle son's den had 4 camp with us, and all four are still here.

    In my experience those boys who did some coordinating with a Troop were more likely to cross over and stay active after the first three months. Not everyone, but it helped. Ones who did not or had no camping experience with a Troop as Webelos guest were much more likely to have a first year 'crisis' experience at a campout. 

    We have had the best results with those boys that attended a council "Back to Brownsea" event where they were divided up into patrols for a weekend and did lots of boy scout things led by boy scouts. 

    In some cases some kids were being pushed along by parents into Scouts and that has always had mixed results. Boys who hate camping are always gonna have issues.

  10. We did what Parkman did though it really depends on what the other parents wanted to do. Sometimes my family ended up cooking our own food because...it was fun and we were camping. We were often in the minority.

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  11. I keep hearing that "Family Scouting" is NOT synonymous with "Girls in Scouting".

    But I just got a scouting email with a FAQ to questions about "Family Scouting". (https://scoutingwire.org/3-places-to-get-answers-to-your-questions-about-family-scouting/?utm_source=scoutingwire&utm_campaign=swvolunteer2142018&utm_medium=email&utm_content=A) and when I go to BSA Brand Center for photos under "Family Scouting" it is clearly based on 90% girls for Cub Scouts. 

    Attached is a screen shot. (It is from https://scouting.webdamdb.com/bp/#/folder/3482216/)  They couldn't show boys and girls together or a family with a son and daughter? I know this is for recruiting...but really? Is it just me? I mean none of this stuff is probably cheap. I'd much rather see something like @Cambridgeskip's picture of his "co-ed" scouts.




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