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  1. Tampa Turtle

    I hate popcorn

    I hate popcorn too, selling that is. It just seems like an over-priced out dated way for Boy Scouts to raise money. Was always good for our Cubbies, because the Tigers are awful cute. But I was always ashamed by the cost/benefit of the product even when selling to folks that I knew could afford it. I think it leaves a bad taste --no pun intended--in the mouth of folks regarding the BSA "brand". I do not see why they cannot follow Girl Scouts example of a lower price point. Even cheap people like me will buy a couple boxes. I have mixed feelings about supporting the professionals but have known some good ones. I feel it may be the cost of doing business. In my case I am already too busy doing my bit of running the program and spending money out of my pocket for our Troop to want to spend energy on all the bother selling popcorn. I find it a big distraction.
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    Scouts Canada Launches New Uniforms

    Back in the 50's guys wore sports coats and hats.
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    Scouts Canada Launches New Uniforms

    I can't wait to go into the field in my new blazer! Sorry, wrong thread.
  4. Guy, I think you have a good argument there. My two camp experiences were that there was a lot of idle time wasted marching to the dining hall, waiting to get in, waiting to get served, etc. Time spent is probably a wash.
  5. Cooking, not reheating in a microwave, is a real life skill. Locally cooking classes are full for kids, especially boys in part of TV chef shows and in part because of the economy. Cooking is again seen as a valuable skill. I do not think it is nostalgic at all. I know my boys after cooking over a fire or camp stove find cooking in a kitchen with an electric oven a breeze. I agree that summer camp is an excellent opportunity for a patrol to learn to work together cooking as a team.
  6. Cooking, not reheating in a microwave, is a real life skill. Locally cooking classes are full for kids, especially boys in part of TV chef shows and in part because of the economy. Cooking is again seen as a valuable skill. I do not think it is nostalgic at all. I know my boys after cooking over a fire or camp stove find cooking in a kitchen with an electric oven a breeze. I agree that summer camp is an excellent opportunity for a patrol to learn to work together cooking as a team.
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    I hate popcorn

    When we sold we got a lot of $5 and $10 cash donations instead.
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    Lack of interest

    Yes it has been pretty hot this summer but Tampa was not as hot as most of the SE. I think we get some ocean affect. I think aquatics are good in the summer, though even with the heat. I don't think I would do anything super-ambitious like a 10 mile hike in the afternoon. When I had by Webes we did twice a month summer activities. One was just a glorified field trip (the dump, evil laser tag, bowling) just an excuse to stay connected. The other we worked on the physical fitness/swimming requirements that seemed hard to do during a busy school year. Those were usually pizza and pool parties. We also worked on a few individual activities with a few boys who were out of sync with the rest; we had a few late joiners who wanted their AOL and we used the summer for catch up. People here also travel a lot in the summer, but not everyone does. More staycations the last few years as well.
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    Dumbed down? Why the rush?

    Qwazse, I agree. We have had few boys have such disabilities that they couldn't get it eventually; usually they are no more than a year or two behind on some issues and if they show up at the events and campouts they usually will master it on their own. We had a few kids that were terrified of the swim test and literally had a ring of adult swimmers around him to get him do it the first time. I have done some knots with some guys dozens of times. It sure is rewarding when they get it.
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    Dumbed down? Why the rush?

    I have seen some boys with low self esteem really get discouraged when they get shown up at these things. Also some with disabilities. So I wouldn't want to write them off as "too bad, so sad". These are the guys we really need to reach. Need to work with them more (and their Patrol's to help them learn as well)
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    First "Big" Campout

    Eamonn, I recall my mom when I was 10 teaching me how to make a grilled cheese sandwich saying "every bachelor needs to be able to at least cook a grilled cheese sandwich for himself; learn to do an omelet and you'll impress a girl someday."
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    Indiana scouter killed on the trail

    50 year Scouter...bad way to go and no reason for it. Only bright spot was he was last doing something he loved. Awful for boys to witness that. Senseless.
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    Lack of interest

    My sons were and always up for something during the summer. They will even volunteer for adult work days if it is scouting related... Over the years my attitude has changed. I say offer a summer program and not worry who shows up. Make it something you enjoy anyway and celebrate those who come. Don't get a chip on your shoulder over who does not. Best cub meeting ever was only me and my co-leader and our sons. We almost cancelled but decided to go on. It was like a father-son play-date. My boy still remembers it 5 years later as one of his favorite times. By doing an activity and going forward even with a few boys you send a clear message to those boys: you are important enough to do this with. I think barriers to Summer Program is the parents.
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    Lack of interest

    Basement, This is my seventh year in scouting and I only had one year where I could even muster interest in a monthly summer activity. So while it can be done it is a tough slog. Toward the last few weeks before school interest always seems to pick up. Maybe mom's want to get the boys out for a while, or interest peeks with the coming of a new scout season, or whatever. Our Pack always did a fairly successful fishing derby (about 50% participation) a weekend or two before school starts. Kind of a get reacquainted. A local vet offered a Vet MB class (complete with surgery!) at the beginning and end of summer. Expected eight boys each time. Beginning of summer got two. End of summer got twenty-six.
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    First "Big" Campout

    Great job for pulling it off. I second the comment on advice...you are the man on the spot. But the forum is great for getting ideas. I have heard pros and cons to the free time argument. I hate to regiment the boys but some times too much free time has devolved into some pretty hairy situations. Our Troop seems to have evolved into providing boys 2 or 3 choices during "open time" so they can choose to whittle, swim, play a game or whatever but they need to commit to something to stay out of trouble. Just a thought. How did the parents of the boys react? It was a big step for some of them as well I am sure.
  16. Yeah in Florida it is usually the heat and sweat that I cannot stand. I don't do compression shorts cause they just feel too hot. I have had good luck with ExOfficio underwear. It is very lightweight, breathable, and anti-microbial to boot. I have gone on trips for a week with just two pairs and you can hand wash and they dry out in 20-30 minutes. They are not cheap at about $10 a pair but seem to be very well made. Because they are lightweight (keep away from velcro hooks) I wash them in my wife's lingerie bag so they don't cling to something and I lose them. I wore one pair 96 hours straight without washing during a hurricane and they did not smell. So I can vouch for them.
  17. Yes! Congratulations. Especially on the cooking -- the boys must have felt 10 feet tall when they got home. I am envious.
  18. What no pop-tarts, or Pringles, or morning Doritos? No Pizza runs or Mickey D's brought in by Mom. I know for a fact that boys can't cook! My parents have told me so!
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    what DO I get for doing this?

    I have a boy like that. Just loves to help for the love of helping.
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    Recruiting nite- 1 man show

    I would seriously consider joining a nearby Pack instead. The energy you expend running the Pack will come from time you could spending with the boys.
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    what DO I get for doing this?

    You need to train your guys to just to service not for the rank advancement, not for any perks, not for high school graduation but because service is what scouts do. Not grudging, here sign off my service hours on this form service, but cheerful and reverent service. Do some guys complain? Yes. Do some guys get it. Certainly. And when they grow up some will be jerks and some will be good guys. You're a scout...do the right thing.
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    I hate popcorn

    I hate, hate, hate popcorn. I am embarrassed by it's high cost. It is not a unique product and I do not like my son's doing so. I know this (vs Girlscout Cookies) is a well traveled road on this forum. At the price of product is seems a bit like begging. It was a good fundraiser for my old Pack less so for the Troop. We have other fund raisers so in our Troop the boys keep the "profit" for scout accounts. A few boys are great salesman. Most of the good sellers are actually kids of attorney's, etc who buy a big bunch and give them out as gifts. My sons have had to work really really hard for whatever they sold. They finally figured out this year that they make more per hour mowing lawns, etc.
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    Popcorn kickoff - credit card payment

    We got 1/3 of money in pure donations NO popcorn. I think a lot of folks just gave what they thought was fair. Not sure how the credit card thing would affect things.
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    First "Big" Campout

    I would have some "back up" activities in case you go through them faster or circumstances change. Weather for example. Does sound about right. Have extra games for sure. Not sure how big your backyard is. Make sure you keep it fun!
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    Accounting Software

    I came from a family of accountants. My dad was a CFO of a large airline. He always said "Deposits payments as possible, delay payment, hold on to cash." I always think a treasurer should not hold on to a bunch of checks for weeks. I think there are plenty of good Excel templates for this sort of thing. We also always have 2 people doing the treasurer job, the main one and a back up. Always have (at least) 2 sets of eyes on your books.
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