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OK, so why the change to the policy? Why was it a matter of safety, or even just adjudicated as a wise policy, that last month Cubs should only campout for 1 night at a time, but now it is either safe or wise or both that Cubs can camp out for two nights? What changed? Why the change?

BSA Bullying Prevention Guide https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/training/pdf/bullyingpreventionguide.pdf

I believe that all that is true. My advice stands: talk to all the adults, the leaders and again the parents, before you talk to the scout. If you talk to the scout first, and he recounts essentially the story as you know it, where does that leave you? What are you going to tell the scout is going to happen next? Are you going to promise to punish the scouts? Promise to punish the adults? You have enough of the scout's perspective for now, in order to take any action on behalf of the scout you need all the other information available. This can, probably will, get very unpleas

You don't want "what happened in camp, stays in camp", on the other hand the leaders in camp should have handled it then and there in camp, and if they did then there's not necessarily a reason for it to have been brought home from camp or for anyone else to have been made aware of it. When I was at camp I was in charge and took my responsibility seriously. I handled any behavior or disciplinary issues right then and there in consultation with the other leaders in camp. Did the parent tell you because they were unhappy about how the leaders there handled it? Were/are they looking for

AS CC, certainly he can decide who can and cannot serve on a BOR consistent with the rules Eagle94 posted. The real question is the wisdom of it. The primary purpose of the adults on the BOR is not deciding on the scout's advancement, but rather learning how well the troop is accomplishing its mission, from the perspectives of the scouts, of delivering a program that accomplishes the Aims and Methods of Scouting. If the decision helps accomplish this purpose than it's wise, if it hinders it, it's unwise. If it falls somewhere in between than it's probably fine on it's face, but t

Sigh, the lack of candor from the diocese dropping scouting is as bad as the lack of candor in BSA. That lack of candor is a big part of why both organizations are in trouble. If it's because insurance costs too much say so. If it's because you cannnot effectively monitor the programs because of a decline in your own membership, say so. But to say it's because of reasons related to the bankruptcy, that's frankly disingenuous. The bankruptcy happened. The results are in, the slate for past acts is wiped clean --- that's the whole point of bankruptcy. Just be honest and up

I was going to send this as a PM, but thought it better to proclaim it publicly. I make no excuses for anyone who has made you feel they don't care. But please know that there are plenty of people who do care. Undoubtedly some of them are your loved ones and friends who you know, and also there are strangers out there who care because you're a fellow human being, and we're all God's creatures put here to try to do our best for each other. If ever you have no on else to reach out to please feel free to PM me. My wife lives with and suffers from depression, as do both my kids. It's

Our council has run a program the last few years conducting QPR training in partnership with the Lucas County Suicide Prevention Coalition. QPR is an acronym for Question, Persuade and Refer. These are the 3 simple steps that are taught in suicide prevention training. The training has so far been just for adults. I haven't heard of anything locally for youth, but I love the idea. I've encountered this challenge as both a scout leader and a parent. I have been on more than one campout where a scout expressed suicidal thoughts and ideation, and it is frightening and challenging. I bel

I'm not there but I suddenly have a cool story to share. I just got a text from a friend who's leading our contingent this year. He texted a picture of a hat from our 2013 contingent. Said a scout just came by whose father had asked him to track down our council contingent and trade for some gear. The father had done his LDS mission work in our area in the 80s and had traded with someone in 2013. That someone was me. Just made my evening, and brought back some great memories.

Wow, I attended the first Jambo at the Summit in 2013 and it was 40,000.

I'm trying to figure out how this is going to work for us, we also pay registration out of our fundraising. At a minimum, we're now going to have to have our treasurer keep track of and send a monthly payment to somebody. Will that be National or through Council? If it's National and Council also wants a payment then we need to do it twice for every scout? And how is this better as a process, for units that unlike ours don't pay collectively, there is no way this will do anything but result in lower payments and fewer scouts. What about units, like our Cub pack who do a hybrid: some

There are hundreds, probably thousands of youth summer camps across the country, for profit, non-profit, Church affiliated, that look at least at first glance as if they would have the same liability issues as a scout organization. It does not appear that they are being driven to extinction by an inability to properly insure themselves. This makes me wonder why the BSA/COR model looks so different. Maybe the camps insure themselves to the extent that they can, and then accept the risk that claims could drive them to bankruptcy, and that's acceptable to them because the camp is the cor

Welcome to the forums. There are so many things wrong with this it's hard to know where to start. First, the rules are clear. This is from the BSA Guide to Advancement: "The unit leader (Scoutmaster) conference, regardless of the rank or program, is conducted according to the guidelines in the Troop Leader Guidebook (volume 1). Note that a Scout must participate or take part in one; it is not a “test.” Requirements do not say the Scout must “pass” a conference." Further, "The conference is not a retest of the requirements upon which a Scout has been signed off. It is a forum for dis

From the referenced news article the BSA's attorney "Ashida retorted that in its nearly 120-year history the Boy Scouts have never had a firearm fatality. "That's never happened, " he said." If that's true it's somewhat surprising and pretty impressive given the sheer volume of kids who have been involved and must have participated in shooting sports. I also have to say that every time this incident pops up I'm astounded by the poor judgment on the part of every adult present. How is it that none of them recognized how wrong an idea it was to bring their own completely inappropriat

I decided to make this a separate post for clarity. Generally, if a Pack and Troop are from the same CO, the Troop, for a myriad of reasons, is going to be more financially secure than the Pack. Unless you are talking about scout accounts there is no good reason tat a Pack would be financially supporting a troop.

I don't want to speak for others, but the way you're describing it probably isn't what people are referring to. Most likely what folks are talking about with individual scout accounts is that there is a general fund for Pack expenses, but in addition to the general fund there are opportunities for individual scouts to have some of the fundraising they do be earmarked for individual expenses they may incur. For instance, if there is a popcorn sale you may ear mark 2/3 of the monies raised by an individual scout's efforts go to the general fund. This generally will cover Pack expenses lik

This rule was around for a long time, but either not understood or not emphasized. The emphasis came a few years ago, maybe 2018 or 2019. There was a good long thread about it on this forum. Our troop plus council's solution was to pay to have the range open during our Boy Scout/Cub Scout weekend, I mean overnight; we paid the fees for the range, the council supplied the rangemaster, but the range was open to every unit in camp for some part of the day, not just us, This made it a council event not a unit event; which frankly was fine with us, why not have more scouts taking advantage

We also encourage all our parents take YPT so they understand the rules as laid out, both to govern their own behavior and as a backstop on others'. Of course not everyone takes us up on it, which is fine, but we do REQUIRE that anyone camping with us complete the training. I know that unregistered adults on campouts will soon be a thing of the past, and I understand the arguments for and against. For us, until the rules change, we're concerned primarily with the behaviors YPT lays out. A background check will weed out only those who have been convicted of malfeasance, the training helps g

OK, so electric bikes are now verboten, surely we can still use these nifty electric hovercrafts. I know this is off topic, and as a moderator I should know better, but I couldn't resist.

When I was young scout you could buy a kit that would add an electric motor to your bike --- it was advertised in the back of Boys' Life.

Certainly riding along at a leisurely pace on a bike would qualify. Having relays of adults would also qualify. Switch out every five or 10 miles or so.

There is nothing inherently wrong or against the rules in what you're describing, i.e. an unregistered adult teaching skills to scouts. For instance, about every other year our PLC invites one of our local police officers to come in as a guest speaker for our scouts. They give a general talk, some about personal safety, some about careers in law enforcement, etc. They also teach how to do fingerprinting. They cover about 90% of what is needed for Fingerprinting MB, and then we have one of our leaders who is also registered as a Fingerprinting MB counselor, complete the mb with any scout int

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2023/01/30/boy-scout-duluth-sleeps-outside/ He spent night 1000 in a quinzhee!

Nope, Sentinel is correct, Bishops answer only to the Pope, or higher. The USCCB can vote on recommended actions, and a whole lot of pressure would be brought to bare on any diocese dissenting. For that reason it is only really important matters that reach that kind of action. But in the end, the Bishop who heads the diocese runs the diocese as they will.

For us it's been a number of years now that recharter won't go through if anyone is not YPT current, or won't be before the charter expires/renews. So many of our adults expire in December because Recharter was the final KIA to get it done. This is different. Recharter for us is January; these are folks whose expiration dates were in October, they're supposed to be suspended affective the date they expire.