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  1. What i would like to see is some evidence that either not having this policy today is the reason for abuse today, or evidence with some analysis that when implemented and taking into account things like what Qasze mentioned that it would make scouting safer overall. I posted earlier how this works in practice, and remain skeptical that a background check for every parent who accompanies a unit would actually turn up any significant number of already arrested and convicted abusers while at the same time having both a large monetary cost and a chilling effect o the supervision of units by n
  2. Am I reading this right: you don't formally recharter, but you do renew the membership for scouts and adults? Paying the renewal fee but not the council specific fee?
  3. We need to be very very careful about questioning the veracity of someone putting themselves forward as a survivor. We wouldn't tolerate anyone questioning the credibility of the posters who have come forward on these forums as survivors. We shouldn't --- and won't --- accept it about others. There are tens of thousands of survivors, that certainly means there are just as many divergent and honestly held opinions on what the best course of action should be.
  4. The distinction between guardian and legal guardian drawn by the G2SS seems to be about whether the child is being given over to another adult (legal guardian) or whether they're attending with an adult (guardian). Especially if mom is attending I don't think you have any issue.
  5. For those not currently in the program, here is some sense of how the 72 hour rule works. Our Pack and Troop have a joint weekend each year. About 40+ Cubs. This is a cabin campout, all YPT rules are followed: kids in one room adults in the other. We have one cabin for scouts with dads and a smaller cabin, scouts with moms. Most folks arrive Friday night and leave after campfire on Saturday. On the ScoutsBSA side, on weekend campouts we will sometimes have an unregistered parent camp with us. This is always in addition to at least two and usually three or or four registered
  6. I inherited an Air Scouts handbook circa 1943, it is really cool.
  7. The first part of your statement is correct, the latter is sadly not. Think of excuses like "what was she (he) wearing" "how were they behaving" "why didn't they say no, fight harder, scream more" etc. "Why did they lore an otherwise good man to do this" Imagine if the victim happened to be gay. The amount and ubiquitousness of victim blaming in the not even distant past was incredible, and sadly still can exist today.
  8. He genuinely cares, he thinks he was right and BSA should have agreed with him; he either reached out to the folks presenting him or they reached out to him, and they found kindred beliefs and a desire to act on them. There's no reason to think there are any ill motives here. And at the same time the lack of ill or ulterior motives doesn't make his views or his interpretation of his experience the only accurate or legitimate ones.
  9. When I hear stats that not only don't comport with my own experience but that also seem really high even if I credit that my experience may be sheltered I start to wonder about definitions. Earlier there was a discussion about folks' personal knowledge of YPT violation cases. The only two I've known of personally were not in my unit but came from my involvement in summer camp and Jambo. One was a case of a group text chat the was explicit and then also involved "sexting" pictures. The other was a slapping of genitals that a group of scouts was doing. Both these incidents were bad beha
  10. Scoutreach units are treated as a district because they operate differently then, and need different services and resources than a traditional units. They use paid leaders to provide the program, and at least in my council are always a part of council events, and are certainly welcome at other district's events.
  11. To be clear, what I said and what I say is that to my knowledge it has not happened in our unit. Even today none of the cases in my council involve my CO. I don't say I've never heard about it. If you're conversing with someone about it it's obvious they've heard about it. I'm curious, how many, as a percentage of units, do you think this has occurred in? Even if the victims and BSA was advertising about it, which parenthetically they actually have been doing, how many scouts and scouters do you think would be able to say that they were within one degree of separation from an abuse
  12. First, virtually no one asks about the former. But if they did what I would say is that it's a mess, it doesn't really have anything to do with us, and my belief is that in the end, after long and arduous negotiations, some deal will be worked out that compensates the victims and allows BSA, our council, and our troop and pack, to continue. Ultimately, like all large bankruptcies and huge complex lawsuits, there will be a settlement. No one will really like it, but there's actually no way for one side or the other to "win" it as a matter of law. As to the latter. Past abuse doesn't re
  13. Not all inoculations "convert" that is they don't always trigger enough of a response to confer immunity, and immunizations can wain over time. I was inoculated for pertussis as a kid, but ended up with it in my forties, almost undoubtedly because one of the kids in my son's preschool was not vaccinated. My wife recently had to prove all her immunizations for a new job in health care. There was no practical way to get her childhood vaccination records so she got blood work done to show her titres. Turns out she did not have immunity to mumps and had to get a new MMR shot.
  14. That's a very unfair assumption. The record was expunged, which means for all intents and purposes it never existed. In order to find out about the incident(s) you would need to conduct an independent investigation of him going back nearly a decade --- not interviewing references but rather pursuing people who may have known him and were themselves no longer associated with his previous employers. I worked briefly for a United States Attorney and they weren't even that thorough in backgrounding me. This guy worked for one police department, was fired, worked for another departmen
  15. So, I'm the COR for a Catholic Parish. For our parish, scouts is only one of many ministries for youth. We have our own version of YPT, and it is required of everyone who volunteers: coaches, choir directors, catechism teachers, parents on field trips, etc., so the idea of having volunteer run youth programs is neither new nor unusual, and of course all Catholic parishes are well aware of liability for abuse. So it's not unreasonable some version of the CO model will exist going forward. The challenge of liability is insuring yourself against it. That is probably the biggest issue going f
  16. Welcome to the forum McHugh. Looking back through this thread it seems the consensus ended up being that insects would be included. Frankly, insects are harder to truly identify much of the time. "I saw a mosquito" is no more sufficient than "I saw a sparrow".
  17. Still not illegal, and since they're widespread in homes from before 2018 a good skill to have and perform correctly. I have roughly 20 of these in my house, and no toddlers, infants, or small children. I'm pretty sure that I would repair rather than replace, and the supplies to do so are readily available from any number of sources. From your link: "The standard's new requirements segments the market into custom and stock, and requires all stock products, sold in stores and online, to be cordless or have inaccessible or short cords," said WCMA Executive Director Ralph Vasami. "St
  18. Corded blinds aren't illegal, and in fact the correct installation and replacement of older cords is critical in making corded blinds safe or safer. ANSI/WCMA A100.1-2012, National Standard for Safety of Corded Window Covering Products, was approved on November 30, 2012. The revisions include: requirements for durability and performance testing of tension/hold down devices, including new requirements for anchoring; specific installation instructions and warnings; new requirements for products that rely on “wide lift bands” to raise and lower window coverings; new requirements for a warnin
  19. Neither the court nor the legislature is rewriting any contractual obligations. Oversimplifying a bit, the contract between the insurer and the insured is to provide indemnification to the insured for the costs of the torts (acts of harm) that they commit during the period of the policy. SOLs don't actually cover or not cover that contract between the insured and insurers. The SOLs cover two DIFFERENT parties, the insured and the victim of their tort. The insured and insurers could write a policy that limits coverage based on when a claim is made or on possible changes in the law.
  20. Welcome to the forums. You clearly have never lived in an old house.😀 The 100+ year old houses I've lived in have each and every one of them needed all of these repairs.
  21. I took out an umbrella policy because of all the kid related things I was doing: scouting, coaching, driving kids on field trips, etc. I recommend to anyone involved in kid programs to get the coverage. It's relatively cheap, whereas when kids get hurt it's very expensive..
  22. The reason time barred claims are being allowed, indeed solicited, as part of the bankruptcy, is that the intent of this, or any other bankruptcy is to discharge all of the organization's debts, even if they haven't completely ripened yet. Specifically, BSA knows that not only does it have potential financial liability to claimants who are newly empowered by changes in SOL periods, it also knows that it faces potential ongoing liability if/when more states change their SOLs. Let's say that all time barred claims were stricken, and only currently open state claims were allowed to be p
  23. it's not entirely accurate to say the attorneys' job is to maximize the amount their clients get. An attorney's duty is to zealously represent their client. Whether that means maximizing a monetary award is for the client to determine. if a client wants his attorney to advocate for a settlement that awards compensation equally regardless of the SOL differences among claimants then the attorney is duty bound to advocate for that irrespective of their view of the wisdom of it or what effect it might have on the attorney's well being. One of the challenges of contingency representation is
  24. Ha, ha, ha. herding Bishops makes herding cats look easy. the 144 dioceses and 32 Archdioceses you mentioned are 176 independent organizations run by 172 VERY independent Bishops. A diocese can decide everything for its parishes, but no one short of Pope Francis can decide something for all the Dioceses, and even that gets very complicated.
  25. Have you ever done this before successfully? When we upload from Troopmaster, we upload to Council's Internet Advancement 2.0. A day or two later everything shows up in Scoutbook. I didn't think you could go directly from Troopmaster to Scoutbook. If you've done this before, and it just doesn't seem to be working this time, I would try taking that scout out completely and see if it will upload. If it just seems like Scoutbook is hanging up because of size, I would try a few scouts at a time. Good luck!
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