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The group has a facebook page with info and pictures. I'd say they are the real deal.

Calico, at first I didn't realize that they were a non GSUSA troop that has co-opting the brand. Part of my concern in what they were doing would be no different than if a KKK chapter charted a Cub Scout pack and altered the program to push white supremacy upon 6 to 10 year old children. I would think the BSA would have concerns. But you are right, this is a group that has founded a new program that obviously their parents approve of. Sadly, instead of learning about leadership, character, etc. they are being taught that white policemen are killing black people for no reason. I don't see

My issue is this, it's indoctrination. I know there are those who would make the same claim with the BSA, but I would argue the point with them. Over all, we do have things like "reverence" and expectations of duty to country. But we do those in a fairly generic way. When we teach Citizenship merit badges, it is teaching about the role of government and our rights, not a preconceived agenda........and certainly not to grade school children. Scouting really does make a serious attempt to be diverse and inclusive. Can we do better? sure. But would you call these Radical Brownies diverse

I believe the title for that would be "awwwwwwsome brownies dude".

I'm not a Girl Scouter and I know that they are run differently than BSA, but this doesn't seem like an appropriate use of their program to me. http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/02/10/radical-brownies-girl-scouts-social-justice-oakland-black-lives-matter-protests/ "OAKLAND (KPIX 5) – After the recent Black Lives Matter protests, there is a new brownie troop in Oakland. Instead of selling cookies, they are spreading a message. On a Saturday afternoon in Oakland, a handful of 8 to 10 year old girls are gathered, in brown uniforms, giggling and eating cupcakes. They look

Let me play devil's advocate. So a kid writes his plan. It isn't on the national supplied form, it consists of a few hand scratched notes in pencil that really aren't even complete sentences, there are no pictures or diagrams and he can't articulate his project in an understandable way, but it has unit leader signatures......do you rubber stamp it because the kid "wrote" it and wish him luck? What is your standard within the stated rules and guidelines from national for an EBOR that you will accept a project or deny it? http://www.scouting.org/Home/GuideToAdvancement/EagleScoutRank.asp

My troop did and I assume they still do as I'm no longer active with them. We created the position somewhat in self defense as many kids in our district would get turned down on their initial BOR. This had much more to do with the district advancement chair and Eagle coordinator and lack of training and consistency. We always had volunteers on the EBOR's each month and knew the process. We had an Eagle adviser in the troop who would walk the boy thru each step. Don't get me wrong, we didn't tell them what to do, find projects, do the write up or anything like that. They did all the leg w

Actually, that's the legislature. If they can't iron out that pressing issue, it could wind up in the state supreme court I suppose.

I'm proud to say that here in Oklahoma, my troop includes one of our state supreme court justices as a registered leader. Been on many a campout with him and he has written a number of recommendation letters and provided reference for my son thru college and beyond. In fact, he recently server as our district chair........but then, we're knuckle draggers here in fly over country, so...... Oh I almost forgot, our Council President is also a Federal Judge.

Back when I was a kid in grade school in the 60's, we had no school busses. There were no daycares that picked up either. Most moms stayed at home, but many families only had one vehicle. Everybody walked to school. My elementary school was three blocks from our house and I walked it everyday from kindergarten except in bad weather. There were probably 6 or 7 kids that lived on my block and we all walked together or one of the moms took us in bad weather. I began walking to school and back in kindergarten at the age of 5. I'm still here to tell about it at 57.

Skip, No one complained about the parents. A police car drove past the kids walking home and picked them up. They took them home, spoke to the parents and then called protective services. Funny, on my way to work this morning, I drove past four grade school kids in a "rough" part of town walking to school and thought about this story.

Putting on my moderator hat here. There is an expectation for our members here to get along by applying the Oath and Law and to lead by example. Please knock off the sniping at each other. I'd prefer not to have to edit people's posts.

Well that's just sexist!

I'm going to show my age here, but remember the Disney educational films you would see at school. You know, the ones where they roll a film projector into the room and mount a film and show it on a projector screen? Of all the educational films I ever watched, they were the best and most informative. They were humorous and featured well known and loved characters which made them appealing. But the real key was taking the information and breaking it down into bite size pieces and presenting it in very easy to understand terms. Sadly, I don't think the BSA could get Disney to make a ca

Yes, and having an engine isn't the aim of taking a trip by automobile either.......but it sure comes in handy having one under the hood when you want to take the trip. Is having an engine a weakness in car building or taking a trip?

Sorry for the long post. Yes, Wood Badge is an adult leadership training course. That is how it’s sold and that is what it is. It is not a skills course. IOLS teaches Tenderfoot to First Class skills. It is not a course to teach you the ins and outs of being an SM or a Committee member. SM Specific and Troop Committee Challenge do that. BSA has various training courses designed to teach specific things and WB is an adult leadership training course. Nothing more, nothing less. Primarily, its purpose is to teach us as adult Scouters how to work in a cooperative fashion with o

I'm always disheartened to read these threads. I've staffed 4 WB course and 2 NYLT courses. I've been an NYLT course director and WB backup course director and attended 3 course director conferences. The course directors conferences are required and bring together CD's from across the region for networking, training, best practices and to learn of upcoming changes to the course. Each CD signs a pledge to deliver the course as written. It is the BSA's best attempt to ensure that the course is being run correctly and the training materials are being imparted correctly and that a WB course i

There were a variety of Wood Badge courses. There was Cub, Boy Scout, Professional, etc. Just like BSA now consolidating to one oath and law across programs, they decided to consolidate down into one course. It's much easier to keep up with one set of training materials than 3 or 4. I don't know if that makes it better......but it makes it easier.

First, you're entitled to your opinion. Second, the purpose of the OA is service. Third, there isn't a district lodge meeting. There are chapter meetings at the district level and lodge meetings at the council level. There are chapter advisers and lodge advisers. Native American lore and traditions have been a successful part of OA since its inception.

Interesting! For all of the 21st Century naysayers, the current course syllabus still has every one of the elements in it that Hillcourt, Thomas, and Lawrence put in back then.

Jesus would also do this. Luke 9:5 "And as for those who do not receive you, as you go out from that city, shake the dust off your feet as a testimony against them." http://biblehub.com/luke/9-5.htm

Part of the OA's purpose is to promote camping, especially summer camp. While OA has taken a more visible role in community service, part of their purpose is to provide service to the council's camp properties. In our council, our lodge holds a service weekend once a year where we go to one of our six properties and spends the weekend doing projects. That is besides the service provided during Ordeals. Many chapters will provide some sort of service to a camp. Stop and think about it. Consider the following taken from OA literature. One of the requirements states, "In the past two y

We don't hold OA elections in the park where everyone is invited to come participate. OA has very specific rules and regulations for OA elections. They are held at the unit level by an OA election team who are not members of the unit and the boys in the unit vote on their peers on the ballot. If the unit does not allow an OA election, the boys of their unit will never become members without switching units. The SM serves at the pleasure of the CO. They are within their rights to determine policy for the unit.

Hear, hear!!! As a former Chapter Adviser, I can attest first hand to the lack of support from units. I came from the largest troop in one of the largest districts. My troop has always supported the Lodge and Chapter. No matter how we tried, we just couldn't get other troops off of high center. Only about half of them allow us to do an election for them. We had one troop that resisted each year for years saying that the parents believed OA to be a cult! Say what? It's an official program of the BSA to recognize honor campers and is based on service to others. When the old SM retired,