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ScoutParent, Why do you see it as science VS religion? What I said easily fits into your perscription. The Bible says the Earth was created in 6 "time periods". The English translation translates the original language to be the word "day" which you and I interpret to be a 24 hour day. The actual language is not a confined limit of time. That can fit very easily into the scientific age of the Earth. Whether God created Earth in a fraction of a second or over billions of years is not the real question. The question is whether you believe God is ultimately responsible for the creation

Rooster, No, I am not limiting God. God could have created everything in 6/1,000,000ths of a second if he wanted to. Knowing that, is the fact that he took 6 "days" limiting God? He may have done it in 6 literal days some 4,000 years ago, but then how do you reconcile the age of the earth with that? Many Americans read their English translation of the Bible without knowing some of the actual literal translations of words that are not used in what we read. The original language has nuances that we don't always differentiate in English. When we start reading our translation literally

Demann, I am Southern Baptist, but can't speak for all Baptists and certainly can't speak for any other denominations. I don't believe in the origin of man as purported in the theory of evolution. However, I do believe that species do evolve thru time. The science is there, how can you ignore it? I do believe that the Bible is God's revelation to man. I believe that God is supreme and that he created everything. I believe he created man. It is all a matter of interpretation I gues. While I believe that God created man as the Bible states, I question whether Adam and Eve are actual

Zorn, Do you speak from personal experience?

I think this problem may even be worse at the Cub Scout level due to the boys age and parents and leaders "making" it too easy. I posted this in another thread last week, so I'll make a long story short. We went on a council sponsered overnighter a week or so ago and at the end, they gave us a sheet that said what all requirements the boys met during the various activities. It was basically the same thing listed here, if they "participated", they got credit. They got credit for the throwing life saving technique for Aquanaut by tossing bean bags thru holes in a board. Nothing about water

Thanks for the info. That makes a little better sense. I still think it is pretty high priced popcorn. I doubt that he would have sold as much as he did if he had not been in uniform. It is instant identity and people seem to be willin to spend the extra for a program that has a good reputation. He sold the big $30 tin to an older couple whose three sons had been in scouts and made Eagle.

By golly Yaworski, I knew we'd finally agree on something. I wear a suit to work everyday and always carry a small Buck knife in my pants pocket. One just like my Dad's. If I put on pants or shorts with a pocket, my knife goes with me. For camping, hunting or hiking I carry a larger pocket knife. My 9 year old son has 2 pocket knifes and was thrilled to actually get to carry it on his first Cub Scout campout since he can't carry it to school. How can anyone NOT carry one is the question?

We just joined Cubs a few weeks ago and got the popcorn sprung on us last week. This is less than a month since my son did his school fundraiser. That isn't a problem for the pack, just for us individually. He went around the neighborhood and to all the family members and sold $250 in a day. My concern is what a Den Leader dad down the street told my son. My son understood him to say that we only keep 10% of the sale!!! My son is a pretty good listener, but at 9 years old, he does get it wrong sometimes. I hope this is the case. I find the popcorn to be a little pricey at $7 for a 14 0

yaworski, Well you suceeded in proving Benny's point about sniping and getting off of the issues. Rather than discuss the issue, you skirt them and find something negative to say. As you well know, my point had to do with rules and how they define an activity. I figured a baseball analogy might strike a cord with you since you ump. Evidently your desire to ridicule is stronger than your desire to engage in meaningful dialogue. Regardless of your opinion about when kids should play organized sports, any team at any age that manages to compile a record like that is a once in a life

sctmom, I swore to my wife when my son signed up that I was going to do my best to not get in the big middle of it like baseball. I wanted to be a fan and watch from the bleachers for a change. Buttt........we'll see.

My son is in a Webelos 1 den with 14 I believe. I've only seen 12 attend so far. It is ultra noisy and the Den Leader had her sign up most of the meeting to little avail. We were trying to plan for our part in the Pack Meeting/Halloween party we are having in 2 weeks and asking the boys to think of games they wanted to run that were appropriate for Tigers on up. It was a disaster. They were all trying to be cute and one up each other on being silly. After 40 minutes of this, she sent them out with her husband to play so the parents could accomplish something. Twelve 9 year olds in a sma

I typically think most speed limit laws (rules) are stupid, but I've learned the hard way to follow them. Most rules exist for a reason regardless of whether WE think they are dumb or not or chose to follow them or not. When my son was on a 7 year old competitive baseball team that I was heavily involved with, we taught them the fundamentals and traditions of baseball. When at the balpark and in uniform, they were supposed to remain in full uniform before and after the game because they represented the team and what any baseball team SHOULD look like. No shirt tails hanging out, no shi

Benny, You just got an example of some of the backbiting that takes place here. Yes, Bob is a by the books kind of guy. Scouting is "owned" (for lack of a better word) by BSA and they often have approved rules and regulations. That rankles some. They think they know a better way of doing it. Bob can be a little rigid at times, but he is extremely informative and does know many of the official answers. There is nothing wrong with that. I think some people are jealous. Yaworski, you are an ump and a ref. While you have to make judgement calls frequently in a game, it is framed

ASM1, Over here in little ole' backwards Oklahoma (the true cultural center of the universe) we get a kick out of the self importance of places like New York City, Chicago and Los Angeles. The problem is that people in the BIG cities are the ones who can't see beyond their own noses. They seem to think that the world follows their lead. We don't. It was great that New York cleaned up Times Square and closed down the strip joints and got rid of the hookers. It really had little effect on me 1,700 miles away. I want the hookers off of MY city streets. Yes, I am concerned when any cou

As seems to be the case with most people in these forums, I am now confused. My son is a Webelo and our council is putting on a two-nighter family camp in a few weeks. There was a possibility that I was going to have to drive 80 miles back home on Saturday morning for a couple of hours of work, so I talked to our Cubmaster about the parental requirements for camping. (Don't worry, I'm arranging for my wife to come to camp while I'm away or get my brother to camp with us.) The Cubmaster told me that Webelos do not have to have a parent present like the cubs do, it is preferred but not requir

Hmmmm, I learned long ago to look an item over closely and try it on before I bought it. It has always worked well for me. I suspect those masochist at BSA just want to give you something else to gripe about. Isn't that why those umps and refs make the calls they do......to make the fans and players mad?

Just what the heck are the "joining requirements"? My son just joined Cubs as a Webelo a few weeks ago after we attended a recruitment night at his school. I was handed tons of material and don't recall any joining requirements. This past weekend at a council overnighter, there was a Boy Scout at the Archery range who had some sort of Palsey and confined to a wheel chair. It was so advanced that he had to be pushed everywhere by someone else. If a kid with those kind of physical diasabilites can join when he obviously can't fulfill the majority of the requirements for merit badges or adva

Jeepers, Mike!!! I reread the threead and didn't see any ATTACKS against YOU or any other individual. I saw a lot of discussion, scenarios to consider and difference of opinion, but no attacks. Who singled you out and made bad comments about your character. Maybe I missed it, if so, I'm sorry.

Bob, You know from my posts in that thread that I agree with you. While my son is still in Cubs, I still look at it as a team effort. Imagine how thrilled a kid would be with only 2 kids in his den. Eventually they would lose interest without other den members to interact with. Scouting has elements of both individual and team sports. My son played baseball and basketball and knows that no game is won by a single player. He takes Tae Kwon Do and knows that his success or failure rest solely on his shoulders and the work he puts into it. A Den/Patrol should function as a unit and th

Probably because they made a million or two and can't cost justify scrapping them for new ones.

Ahhh, how sweet it would be to have no greater responsibilities in life than to hang out in forums that discuss serious concerns and pick nits over other peoples grammar. It must be tough being perfect and living in such an imperfect world. Zorn, most people here are devoted Scouters bouncing ideas off of each other and trying to improve their contribution to scouting. They have a life, perhaps you should pursue one as well. BTW, if my grammar or spelling isn't perfect in this post.....I really don't care. The message is important, not the wrapping.

I understand Bob's concern and the BSA's position on meds. That being said, there is a difference between Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts. Of course they need to learn personal responsibility.....but. How many kids do you know of who have lost something on a campout? What if it is their meds and what if it is something their life depends on such as insulin. What if they go into insulin shock, are dazed or comatose and need an injection of Glucagon. Bob, are you going to stand there and look at them and say too bad? If it is over the counter meds such as Tylenol or Sinus pills, OK. If it is R

fboisseau, Yeah, but.......commitment is commitment. As I said earlier, my son takes Tae Kwon Do twice a week on Monday and Wednesday. He has Den/Pack meetings on Thursday. We got into Cubs a few weeks ago after first checking to see when the meetings were held. He is talking about playing basketball. I've told him it all depends on what nights the practices are held. Would your soccer coach be satisfied if your son let the team down by not showing up for practice or games because he was at a Den meeting or a campout? If he is like my son's baseball coaches, the answer is NO! Scou

They did a Flag Retirement ceremony at the end of our campfire at our overnighter this past weekend. I'm 45 years old and it was the first one I had ever seen. It was moving. It is a great addition to any campout and an educational experience for the Scouts and their families. Kids know the story of the flag, the pledge and how to show respect for the flag. Few have any idea of how to pay the final respect to the flag.

YoungBlood, You miss my point. Committment is a good think and something every kid needs to learn. Expecting 7 year old kids to practice 1 1/2 to 2 hours, 3 to 4 times a week, play in a league and play tournaments every weekend is a bit much. They played 76 games that season. That is half the schedule that the Major League plays. If they had a birthday party to go to, too bad. If the family wanted to go on vacation, too bad. The boys were expected not to go swimming on game days so they would have plenty of energy. They played 4 games back to back in one tournament when the tempat