Sentinel947

How do military organizations discriminate? A California judge can't be part of which military organizations?

Or join them since the BSA drives you up a wall.

I've only met two Scouts who went to a Trail Life unit. The gay issue was a cover for people dissatisfied with the BSA to start a strictly Christian. Youth group.

Yea I did a bit of research on it. It'll definetly stand up. Unless the original law wasn't challenged before. I'd imagine it was.

For legal scholars here, this applies just to judges correct? Can a state set those standards for any government worker? What about a business? Where does the 1st Amendment play in here?

Bam case closed beat me too it

"Reflecting badly" is very subjective based. In a southern state, being a member of GLADD or Something might "reflect badly". California's standard is "The panel noted that 22 states, including California, prohibit judges from belonging to organizations that discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation, but only California exempts "nonprofit youth organizations" from that prohibition. The state's high court, which sets judicial ethics standards, adopted that exemption in 1996 to accommodate judges affiliated with the Boy Scouts." Not "reflecting badly" but belonging to a disc

Let's jump off the cliff and compare the BSA to the KKK and California to Nazi Germany! Everybody ready? 1......2......3... Jump! All joking aside, California has been gunning for the BSA for a while, but I'm not sure that this move would stand up in court. Edit: looks like they thought about it before. http://able2know.org/topic/2294-1

The panel noted that 22 states, including California, prohibit judges from belonging to organizations that discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation, but only California exempts "nonprofit youth organizations" from that prohibition. The state's high court, which sets judicial ethics standards, adopted that exemption in 1996 to accommodate judges affiliated with the Boy Scouts. I'd say California has precedent to do this.

The requirements aren't the entire program. One can not add to the requirements but still help Scouts have real outdoor adventures without it being Webelos Three.

I think with such a small troop he might be much more influential in being a Troop Guide than a JASM. If he comes from a larger troop where there is more of a need. I think with 11 Scouts you have enough Scouts for 2 Patrols. + your senior Scout as a Troop Guide/or Instructor. If he was a JASM you would end up needing him to fill those roles anyways. Titles aren't terribly important. More importantly is figuring out what roles YOU need him to play and what roles HE wants to play. Then make the title match as closely as possible. Don't get to focused on what title he's gonna have, but

But for such a young small troop why have him as a JASM? Why not PL? Or guide?

It's a useful position for Senior Scouts when you want to open up Instructor or Guide positions for younger Scouts. But it's most useful when your unit is low on Assistant Scoutmasters. Use a JASM for special projects and to mentor younger leaders. Your question is fine here and doesn't need to be moved or reposted.

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Just because your son doesn't plan to make Eagle doesn't make Eagle worthless. Just because your son doesn't intend to make Eagle doesn't make your sons time as a Scout worthless. Are you a hiring manager? Have you listed Eagle as something on your resume? What's your qualification for saying it has no use and is unrecognized? What youth activities are useful and recognized if a teenager applies for a job? Please enlighten me. Since graduating High School and earning Eagle three years ago being a Scout and earning Eagle has helped me in the two jobs I've held and being an Army Cadet.

It seems that while you refuse to allow "nothing less", you are not opposed to adding something "more". If you follow the requirements - as they are written - you will not be "cutting corners". Nowhere in the requirements does it state that the camping, or cooking, MUST be done while on a specific kind of camping trip. Nowhere do the requirements state that dutch oven cooking is not allowed. Requirement 7-B does NOT "require" him to CARRY his pack in anywhere. Requirement 7 is about PREPARING for an overnight - not actually going on one (although that does usually follow it is not re

My local Eagle Scout Association does our monthly meetings by phone conference. It helps if there's somebody clearly in charge with an agenda. If people have something that needs to be brought up, if they can get it to the coordinator or leader of the conference it helps keep things a bit more organized.

When I was working on my Eagle project 3 short years ago, I found being able to drive myself was invaluable. Not having to factor my parents availability into meetings with the beneficiary or my project coach was nice. That being said my parents took a hands off approach to my Scouting. If your parents don't, there probably isn't much you can say to convince em. Best of luck on your project. Keep active in your unit. Sentinel947

Kudu I never know whether to argue with you or laugh at your jokes. For every troop that does things parlor style there are troops that get out and do Scouting the right way. Always something to keep in mind.

Your parents need to learn to let you do things on your own. If they have to hold your license over your head to earn Eagle, what will they hold over your head to finish your college degree or go to work? Eagle should be something a Scout earns because he wants it. Not through bribery.

I think I got them all. Thanks to all who flagged the spammers.

An ASM and two of the Scouts in my unit (His sons) saved a family from a house fire in early 2012. They were awarded the Heroism award, and it took till Dec 2013 for everything to go through.

This goes beyond Scouting. We don't know your relationship to the Scout. Parent? Scoutmaster? Concerned Adult? Regardless you are ideally placed to help this young man who sorely needs help. His status in Scouting needs to take a backseat to making sure he gets the help he needs dealing with substances. His parents need to be brought in if you aren't one. As Qwazse said, going to the Scout Executive on this issue isn't a bad idea if your unit needs help.

Don't smoke weed on a camping trip. Don't smoke weed period. Take some friendly advice from somebody who's been in your shoes only a few short years ago, facing most of the same decisions you have to. You don't need to use/abuse drugs/alcohol /tobacco to fit in. If your friends do, they probably aren't the best friends you could have. Substance abuse is a dangerous thing, and wasting your childhood on it is a tragedy. Part of being a Scout is avoiding those sort of unhealthy vices. If you want to quit, talk to your parents or if not your parents a trusted adult, coach, scout

BD: I think you handled this the right way. I think your plan is spot on. If he shows up and does what he needs to all is well. If not something must be bothering him. Normally the kind of chat you had with the SPL solves any of those issues in my unit.