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  1. Mom, In this case, I think it would be okay to shoot the messenger - when they got back. The SM or AM shouldn't have sent a broad group message to everybody that some were sick. He should have sent messages to the parents of those who were sick. Really sick, not kinda sorta sick. During our week of summer camp, not a day went by that at least one scout had a stomach ache ( too much candy from trading post) ( or eating way too much Texas Pete on a dare during lunch) or a cut , or a scarpe or a busted lip ( horseplay ) ( my son actually) , or some reason or another. I think think
  2. Well, my line of thought is this: A drop in the bucket. One their own, each drop means nothing, but after a while, the bucket is full and flows obver. Or maybe we can rationalize tossing a single cigarette butt on the ground because it is only one butt. One butt won't make a difference, right? But if everybody threw just one butt on the ground, the ground would be covered. Okay, maybe this isn't teh analogy I am looking for. Maybe it's dominoes or the " give an inch - take a mile. Anyways, where does it start and where does it end? First we decide to sho
  3. Wasn't the troop's fault. Wasn't your fault. You told him how many times to look there? Told him if he didn't pick his other stuff up it would go to the dumpster how many times? This is all his. He owns that responcibility. I ghet where you'd think the troop or QM would have tosed it out or gotten on step son to take it home or at least get it out of the trailer, but again not their job. Thing is, he's like my son: He knows the chances of it happening are either slim to none or that he knows I will say it at least 4 times before it really happens. Only solution
  4. You ever just see, read or observe something that just totally changes the way you feel about something? Maybe not instantly, but it could take a few hours, a few days, weeks or even a month or year. And it's not a life changing time to repent on you sould type of change, just a minor change in how you do something or the rational behind what you do/ did. Okay here's what did it for me: "I don't care for singing for lost stuff, either. Doesnt' seem Scoutlike to me. Courtesy dictates that I cheerfully return the things I find to their owners." - Twocubdad Twocubdad
  5. Patchtown, there is another company that also starts out with "Patch-" in the beginning of their name. All told, I contacted about 7 different patch companies. I may have used your name when talking about the other "Patch-" company or any of the other patch companies. My only point was I found a better deal with a minimum number of patches that actually coincides with trhe number of boys in a BSA patrol.
  6. Congratulations! I start my WB in November. As for celebration, maybe you could walk the plank and take "The Dive of Honor" ?
  7. Basement, Nah, no outlets at all. At least not at our campsite. Our bathouse and our shelter do have 3 lights each, but no plugs anywhere. The scout would have to walk to the dining hall, admin building or Med center. Thing is, instead of just telling mom that the games and electric fan were useless, both scout and mom went into mother in charge of all mode. "Some one needs the stones to put their foot down." Yeah, that's what the AC ( going to be SM next month) and myself( ASM) are planning on doing. Thing is, I just want to make sure I do it in a tactfull enou
  8. SPL and Pl's conduct shakedowns. Depending on where we are going and what we are doing and at what time of year, boys will pack gear in trailer the night before departure, but will keep daypack with them. If we are going to hike in or be at camp later in the day, boys usually keep bug spray and sunblock in day pack to put on before we get to the hot sunny bug infested campsites. Mom, It's not just 1st year or NSP's. It also some 2nd and 3rd year scouts. Some 1st year scouts did well in their second year of Webelos and haven't had an issue. The parents are the way
  9. Yeah, I know, but I was just replying to BlueJackets lamment about what units use popcorn money for. As for coincil asking those questions, maybe ( and I am guessing) it helps them to understand if a unit goes off the wall with fundraising and or has contoll of their budget. Last year, one of these thrads made mention of a troop with $60,000 in the bank. I kid you not! That troop shouldn't need to hold a fundraiser and the council might give them a talk about using money instead of just raising and saving it. Also, could be that your unit doesn't have a budget due to new inexpe
  10. " I know units who do their annual popcorn sale, then use the proceeds throughout the rest of the year to pay for EVERYTHING - recharter, handbooks, awards, camping, Pinewood Derby...the families do not pay one red cent." And what is wrong with that? Most councils will tell you as an incentive to sell, that you can pay for rcharter, camping trips, events, awards, uniforms, ect....if you sell enough popcorn. It's part of the intention of the plan. Of course, the more you sell, the more the council gets! And families do pay. You don't think cub scouts walk to the pack meetings,
  11. The AC didn't make the rules, he just happened to be the one to vocalize them as yet another pre trip reminder. I remind the guys as does the SM all the time. But in our paticular case, the AC is stepping up to take over as SM come August. Thing is, he is one of those who will let boys make mistakes and learn from them ( not dangerous or fatl, mind you) , but will still tell mom and dads that they too, can help the boys by not going out and buying a bunch of garbage food. You know how it is...tell the boys the same thing over and over - and as soon as mom or dad says somet
  12. How do you get parents to understand? A few examples: 1) As we gathered right before leaving for summer camp, our AC again stressed that it was a "Soda free" event. He mentioned ( again) how scouts should have already been drinking plenty of water BEFORE the day of departure. At this point, a mom says to her son( with a sly smile): " So how is your ( wink , wink ) tea?" Son replies : "My ( wink, wink )tea is good!" Problem was his tea was very obviously fizzy and carbonated. Coke, Pepsi, Dr Peper or some other dark carbonated cola. 2) We tell scouts to be sure to p
  13. Page 133 of the ScoutMaster Handbook - Right hand side of page 1st yellow highlighted box of text: " Any enforced physical action such as PUSHUPS should not be used as punishment or discipline." Bold emphasis is mine, but the text specifically and intentionally says push ups. Page 133 of Scoutmaster's Handbook - Right hand side of page - Second highlighted box of text: " Physical discipline is not appropriate. Spanking, shaking, slapping, and other forms of corporal punishment should never be used by scout leaders. "
  14. Besides, times where different back when that rule was written. Kinda like how alot of what Jeasus said doesn't apply because that was before computers. ( I kid you not - I actually had somebody tell me that last one!)
  15. NOPE! Because it isn't the writer that is the issue, it's the personal interpretation of the reader. You say waterbug, I say Palmetto bug, the exterminator says cockroach. "It's a great, clearly written rule with no excpetions except..... Great rule but doesn't apply to my situation because......" No matter if that rule had a 24 page summary to cover every sitaution, somebody wouyld find a loophole due to a particulart prsonal reason.
  16. I consider "participating in a flag ceremony" and "participating in a color guard during a flag ceremony" to be two different things. At our pack meets that we are lucky enough to have outside with the firepit and flag pole - it is easy to see who has participated: The scouts who stand at attention when "scout's attention" is called by the Color guard announcer. THose same scouts also salute when the flag is raised and say the pledge. They drop their salute at the call of "two", and stand at attention until the color guard departs from the flag pole. They then relax . Scouts wh
  17. For parents night, we invited any camp staff that we or our scouts worked directly with, and those who didn't have other plans or invites to join us for dinner. When those who accepted our invites showed up, we intruduced them as our honored guests, let them be the first to get served, and talked and chatted with them after eating while the boys played capture the flag. A few nights later, we invited those same staff members for our cookies ice cream social. SM went out and bought a bunch of ice cream, topings, and cookies on his own dime. During the friday night campfire, we
  18. So if I remember history correctly, Australia was originally a prison exile for British subjects. So I am surprised that they ever pledges to the queen to begin with. I mean, "I pledge to the figurehead of the government that exiled my people" ?
  19. Being rich or poor does nothing to a scout. It doesn't make them more or less proud of what they do or their uniform. In my experience, this is what I have seen: Rich mom or dads can be the problem. I say "can" because some of our rich mom and dads are some of the hardest working, dive in to help, compasionate, make sure everybody is treated fairly - parents! Of course, some of the rich parents think that , because they have a better house, car, job, bank account - that the rules do not apply: Mom sneaks her son a case of soda for camp. Tells SM she gave son a case of water.
  20. We are going to play "psycho Golf" ! It's an indoor minerature golf course in a former dept store in the mall. But it's pitch black except the black lights and everything is dayglow and neon colored. Can't say for anybody else, but August is the prime humidity season in Eastern NC.
  21. Curious: Does hours mean total clock hours of everybody working as in 4 people working 10 hours counts as 10 hours OR It is a total of combined working hours as in 4 people working 10 hours equals 40 hours
  22. Okay, I have only been to 1 Boy SCout summer camp. Been to quite a few camporees, and troop events, but only one summer camp. Seems I read about or hear about the horrors of checking in - or more specifically - the agonizingly long line at the swim check. First things first: We know having a troop swim check at a pool beforehand will save you time - unless the waterfront director decides to challenge you anyays - which hh has the right to do. But putting that aside for a minute, what else can make things easier for a unit? I don't know if this is unique, uncommon or happen
  23. Okay, I do not usually post pictures of scouts that are not my own children on websites.....but I figure this time wil be the exception since : 1) You cannot see his face. 2) I am not telling you his name. There is no display of council name, unit number, SSN, address, ect The reason I want you to see thse two pictures are because this NSP scout really impressed me. Second day of summer camp, this scout - who might be 70 pounds soaking wet in a wool uniform - decided he wanted to try climbing the rock wall. Well, after he gets 10 feet off the ground, he realizes he
  24. I have the switchbacks. They are awesome. Spend a week at camp with them. In the early morning it can be chilly ouit ( if you are lucky) Have them in pants mode. Finish with colors and head back to camp and unzip the legs as it is strating to warm uyp. Spend day around camp doing camp type stuff. Next day, might be chilly and wear them as pants again. After colors, unzip legs for the day. If it's hot and humid, I wear them as shorts. If we go hiking in tick territory, I'll zip the legs back on. Same thing if there are alot of those tiny briar vines. If we are h
  25. "but where does it say that in the ruuuuullllleeeesssss???!!!" It dosn't have to say it..it's a BOY SCOUT CAMP
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