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@@RunningMan welcome to scouter.com. We are here to help but all help begins locally.
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They were in Boy Scouts since they were 12, I wanted them to learn how to build their own support system. My goal has been to empower them to grow. I did not want their success to be based on what I did for them.
They never seek exceptions to the rule. These boys have shot rifles by themselves, they drove three-wheelers at the Jersey Shore on the dunes. I just want them to be the best people they can be.
True character building.
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Youth Protection. This is probably the biggest. Scuttlebut is that new YPT will be coming out for everyone, including Scouts, and it will be based upon Venturing's YPT since it deals with coed issues. We all know that there will be units that go fully coed with the parallel units meetings, camping, etc at the same time with the same Scouters. What will happen when the "girls' unit" doesn't have a female Scouter to camp with them? Will the 2 units cancel the trip, only the "Boys' unit" can go and the girls cannot, or will they do something that one Scouter said he would do: turn the camp out into a "Family Camp Out" so that as long as a dad goes, the daughter can go too? Yes, I've already had a Scouter state that scenario.
I too have heard that around Council about new YPT rules coming , i.e., if the Dads accompany their daughters, the lack of female leaders on an outing would not be an issue. Anyway, that's yet another rumor.
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@@scotteg83 welcome to scouter.com
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There are multiple versions of the Youth App out there- the flattest one HAS different language and no longer has the fee amounts listed. Look on the lower right corner of the app to see the issue number. The one I am referring to has the number "717" in the corner. I have tried to attach it
There is also no mention of Varsity Scouting on this link.
I am not surprised that the cellphone App and scouting.org website form are different.
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@@Col. Flagg take a day to reflect about listening to others and respecting their opinions. No one here is not passionate about Scouting.
It's been a busy day moderating. More "Courteous" would be welcome.
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Hopefully.
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Enterprise
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The fact is that Cub Scouts is NOT for girls and running a parallel program for girls is against what BSA intends. That's a fact. You can delete this post too if you like, but it doesn't make your "opinion" fact or correct.
Fact is Cub Scouts is for boys. Period. Anything to the contrary is wrong.
Again your opinion.
The BSA has never stated a den or pack must exclude siblings from activities, just the opposite of late with Family scouting. Girls are even at Cub summer camp. Don't like, complain to the Camp Director and the Den Leaders there; they are their kids. The adults and kids make it work.
No one here, despite your misreading, has enrolled girls in Cub Scouts. They are along for the fun. If the families, unit, Council do not have any qualms why the fuss?
Seems we are beating a dead horse if you like that expression better than agree to disagree. I will lock this topic pending review.
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Your post about an online business is under review. Note the business you mentioned has a BBB F rating.
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Your opinion and we agree to disagree.
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No. That's what people say when their argument is weak and cannot be supported by facts.
FACT: Cub Scouts is for boys only. Not girls.
Refute that fact and then you have a basis for argument, otherwise you are just wrong.
Yes you have said that numerous times in this thread . As Snow Owl stated none of the girls applications were forwarded, let alone accepted by Council, so the girls are not Cub Scouts. They are just there doing the program in parallel. Fairly common at the den level (even back in day with my sisters) and increasingly more in packs as they have adopted Family Scouting. So is it Cub Scouts if the family non-members come along and participate? National appears to encourages it.
If you don't like the way someone runs their successful scout unit, be calm and run your own.
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@@Eagle94-A1 I find more info about Lone Scouting on various home-schooling websites than I do from National. I would not surprise if Lone Scouting gets repackaged specifically for the home-school market. I don't know if the GSUSA has a similar Lone Scout program.
Also wonder if the offshore BSA councils with small troops may be test coed units.
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No. We don't. Cub Scouts does not allow girls. So unless you can show where BSA condones accepting apps for girls and applying the Cub program to them, your running something that's NOT Cub Scouts.
It would be like me letting my Scouts shoot pistols. BSA says no but I thumb my nose and say "Sure, why not." Or maybe I let my Cubs ride ATVs. Why not? They're just rules, right?
Okay, you agree to disagree.
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So just for fun... some piccies!
LAst night was an annual favourite for the troop, the Monopoly run! The patrols are let loose in cambridge city centre to try and find various things from car park height limits to what is in certain shop windows etc. Along the way they have to get some photos. Patrol as human pyramid, patrol in a phone box, member of the public wearing a scout necker.
One of the first things the PLC put down when planning the year, there would be insurrection without it!
This year we picked up a couple of potential new recruits along the way, simply by having a public presence. Always worth remembering
Happy weekends all!
A scavenger recruiting game in town - clever idea. Do you tread on competitive turf, say a youth soccer game?
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It's called Cub Scouts, maybe you've heard of it
Yes the research is mixed and sporadic. A large body of the "research" is more anecdotal than actual peer reviewed research. There are too many variable at play in addition to the gender issue. If you include research from across the pond it really brings to question the pros and cons of coed vs. single gender.
We live in a coed world and a change is coming - the sooner we start figuring it out the better.
Scout on
Some of your critics have stated that boys will leave or not join a coed scout program, have you seen this with your unit?
Have families seeking to have all their sons and daughters in one unit, transferred their scout sons to your unit and enrolled their daughters?
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Meanwhile, @@RichardB chastises a Scouter in another thread for "not running the right program" even though the idea is totally something a good district or council would do.
Hey @@RichardB, THIS is the thread you should be throwing your BSA indignation at. They have girls in Cub Scouts. Heck they're even taking applications and they say council knows. How about you rant a bit here, huh?
If anything, National should take how-to notes from a successful coed unit
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Group A has the program you want but does not want you.
Group B wants you but will not offer the program you want.
Program matters.
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Could we recycle the name "Varsity" as in henceforth, Boy Scout Venture Patrols will now be known and only be known as Boy Scout Varsity Patrols.
End the confusion with Venture patrols (Boy Scout) and crews (Venturers).
My $0.02,
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I just wish the news organizations would actually check out statements that their subjects make and verify or qualify them when they are incorrect. I realize the father thinks it is a policy that there be 2 adults on any hike, but it's incorrect. Yet every news organization is effectively letting that be reported as "the truth" by publishing his statements with no indication as to whether or not it's true.
His parents stated that they signed him up for an Intro to Backpacking Trek which is listed in the Buffalo Trail Scout Ranch High Adventure pamphlet.
http://buffalotrailbsa.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/BTSR-2015-High-Adventure-Booklet.pdf
On page 5, "Adult Leadership on Treks - all crews going on the trail must have adult leaders..."
Pages 6-9, detail the Introduction to Backpacking.
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Scouts could have done without the "snowflakes" insult, but if your local OA lodge is not fulfilling its mission of service ( and Snow Owl observed other lodges do) why encourage membership?
If from my experience a MBC or a scout camp was not fulfilling the BSA stated standard, I would not encourage either. Same with teachers, schools, youth programs, ...
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??? I haven't posted any replies on this topic, at least until now.
In this topic thread "Resistance to OA", you have not. You just gave a thumbs down to a Snow Owl's detailed, considered reply to the OP.
So care to elaborate?
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http://www.nhtrib.com/news/promising-start
“We’re having a rally on the weekend after Labor Day next year,â€â€ˆTrower said. “That’s an absolute positive.â€
And while attendance at the first-ever New Hampton Motorcycle Rally paled in comparison to the heyday of the Davis Rally, Trower and the Boy Scouts had plenty of reasons to celebrate the rally they put together in a span of just two months.
The community support was outstanding, the reviews from the almost 300 motorcyclists were almost exclusively positive and the scouts themselves had a blast.
“It went great,†Trower said ...Researching this topic, I found several Boy Scout sponsored motorcycle rallies. Some were Council sponsored but more were troop sponsored.
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Good report by CBS Morning show. $1mil lawsuit.
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