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  1. In case anyone is interested, Tillerson's words employed the title of a book by Steven Pinker (2011) entitled, "The Better Angels of Our Nature". The book describes the historical decline of violence and possible reasons for this. Here is a testimonial from Bill Gates: “If I could give each of you a graduation present, it would be this—the most inspiring book I've ever read."—Bill Gates (May, 2017)

    In case anyone is interested. It's a thoughtful book. Pinker has some other titles that are worth considering as well.

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  2. 5 hours ago, mrkstvns said:

    This should be a much less controversial discussion, since we all know there is only ONE "right" way to have a flag ceremony....and that's whatever way I do it. Of course, everyone else MUST be mistaken...

    LOL, agreed, I can sure attest to some heated 'discussions' of just what that right way is, among unit leaders at cracker barrel. 

    To me, respect is something felt in each of our hearts and minds and unlikely to be imposed from outside sources if we don't already feel that respect. 

    Anyway, I admit that I hesitated to post that short video. Reading the discussion about how to retire the flag in a respectful manner just brought the image of that video back in my memory. It was, to me, more disrespectful than dumping the flag into a latrine. But that guy was not alone. There were at least two others in the same community with exactly the same display. And no one, NO ONE, in the community objected or really even made a comment that I know of. So I took the risk of making this thread controversial, but mostly wanted to give the discussion of the 'proper way to retire the flag'  a little perspective about what is respect....or not. 

    Edit: I just dumped the video in the spirit of avoiding controversy.

  3. On 6/2/2019 at 9:59 PM, SSScout said:

    The well mannered kid wants to be ignored and the badly behaving one wants the attention. It is a learned behavior.  Too late for the parents to re-learn how to direct the child...

    As a sub teacher, I learned early on to call the kid's bluff. (he 's just a sub, he won't do anything..." yes he will and has).  7th grade science class.  Average suburban school, overcrowded class, tho.  Class was about volcanoes !  Neat video about Hawaii and Kileuaua, which I had happened to have been to.  Girl in back of class on cellphone, talking LOUD.  I continue my lecture, walk back and take the phone out of her hand, saying "you may pick this up after school", walk back to front of class and continue.... you never saw such a surprised look on a girl's face.  She later apologized, and I had no problems with any other class that day.  

    LOL, I've had this happen in college classes. Students are amazingly 'entitled', some of them. So what I've done is stop the lecture, announce to the offending persons that they should stop being rude to the rest of the class and to me. That usually results in a resentful acknowledgement. But a couple of times they ignored me. So I announced to the entire class a 'pop quiz' on the subject of today's lecture. Enough points to make a difference on the final course grade. Surprisingly, I have never had to repeat this tactic to the same class...perhaps they CAN be taught.

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  4. LOL, that's much better. Might want to extend that rest to stay safe.....just sayin'

    17 hours ago, mashmaster said:

    Here is a scaled version.

    4 rounds

    1. 400m brisk walk
    2. 15 Step Ups on a stair ~6"?
    3. 15 air squats
    4. 15 push press 10# dumbell each arm
    5. 10 push-ups on knees
    6. 15 crunchs 
    7. 2 minute rest


  5. 4 hours ago, mashmaster said:

    Hmmm, a good WOD (Workout Of the Day) would be:

    4 rounds

    1. 400m run
    2. 25 20" Box Step Ups
    3. 25 deadlift (barbell or dumbell or kettle bell) weight varied 45# - 65#
    4. 25 kettle bell swings 35# or 55#
    5. 10 push-ups
    6. 25 sit-ups
    7. 2 minute rest

    What do you think?


    If you're advocating this for most of scout leadership, I see coronaries in the future. 

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  6. I am saddened to report that, as I scan my memories, it was in the forums on Scouter.com that I first learned about so-called, 'tea bagging'. And following up on that thought, this is in the category of things that, sadly no matter how hard we try, cannot be 'unlearned'. 

  7. We had a SM who was obese. On land, he was not destined to win races and he eventually would huff and puff up hills. But in the water he was master of the universe, full of grace and power. He had complete mastery of that environment and while he still probably wouldn't have won many races in the water, his weight didn't seem to be a handicap.

    Thinking about some of the responses here, as I approach the beginning of an eighth decade, I can attest to the fact that age, while it seems to impart some negative things, is nevertheless inevitable not to mention  that the alternative is worse. I offer this encouragement: Those who are past age 55 (which seems to have been the age when I began to appreciate the 'true' effects of gravity) can take heart. With our decades of experience, as we lose our physical edge, we can instead employ guile and perhaps an accumulated psychological edge. After all, it's all we've got left, lol.

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  8. Interesting question and I don't know the answer. But I can soothe you a bit by informing you that this is far from the worst problems that a DE can present.  OK, I know that rule but we often did things like this and the DE signed off on it. Council too. 

  9. And this SPL is most definitely not his friend. But violence is not the answer. The SPL is obviously, as they say, unencumbered by the thought process. It could be that this could be a life lesson for him as well as for the others. Your son is already experiencing enough 'life lessons'. The SPL could simply be monumentally stupid or there might be a mean streak. Bring in the parents asap.

    Our unit had its share of boys who were vulnerable in this and other ways....and a few bullies as well. You know the situation far better than any of us. I suspect that you'll be able to better gauge your response once the parents of the SPL have 'processed' all this. Could be that they will make the decisions for you regarding their son. If they step up to this situation and take control in a manner that you think is appropriate, that would allow you to focus more on your son who probably could use it.

  10. 5 minutes ago, Summitdog said:

    Just to muddy the waters a bit, the summer camps in Northern California are in the High Sierras.  The lakes consist of near freezing cold water, even in late summer, from all of the snow runoff.  The question is whether a scout is, or should be, permitted to wear a light wet suit just to keep warm?

      Understandably, it will provide some buoyancy, which may discount the effort in someone's view.  On the other hand, it makes for a "safer" swim as the scout is less likely to experience cramping or severe loss of body heat because of the frigid temperature.  NOTE: The surface temperature at the varies lakes average between 50-55 degrees in the spring and to 70 degrees in mid-summer.


    That is a really good precautionary consideration. I know many of those lake well and even at lower elevation some of them could threaten hypothermia if care isn't taken. 

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  11. We had plenty of female leaders even without girls in the pack and troop. My only complaint was that one of them couldn't stop herself from calling these young men 'sweetie' or 'honey' or things like that. She sure as heck never graced me with one of those appellations!

    Anyway, the person in Ranman328's anecdote is unlikely to affect policy by complaining to a clerk. I suspect those clerks get plenty of venting of all kinds as they peddle their wares. 

  12. I was a member of that first wave of recipients of the polio vaccine. Then shortly later, the Sabin vaccine. At school everyone got the Sabin vaccine. I remember it well. We all lined up and walked past the nurse who administered the dose. There was no choice and you had to be apocalyptically stupid to reject this somehow. The Salk vaccine was given at the public health department and I remember being taken there along with my sister. I had an aunt who contracted polio as an adult, and a friend in high school whose family had rejected it...and he was permanently handicapped from the disease. It was another case of the child paying the price for the stupid decision by parents. I always get my flu shot. And I have a very disparaging view of the anti-vax bunch. What they really are is 'anti-science'. 

    That said, I suspect that summer camp has a much greater risk for something like norovirus than flu or measles. But that could be the result of residual herd immunity and that can change fairly quickly if the population doesn't maintain its vigilance against these things.

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  13. 6 hours ago, qwazse said:

    Read again. I  quoted my father-in-law -- not granddad. Therefore it was referring to how I wound up with the best mother-in-law a guy could ask for. Although I'm sure Mrs. Q gets the "brought int this world" benefit!

    Oops, sorry for that misread. No excuse. I also ended up with great MiL AND FiL as well - but  from a different decision-making process. 

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  14. WisconsinMomma, I'm just trying to be helpful here but the post by quazse is still there, I think, on Wednesday at 11:34 am (at least according to the time stamp on my computer). Here it is: 

    "Speaking of "less developed countries" my father-in-law first noticed my mother-in-law while they were tending crops in the hinterlands of western PA. He saw her work-ethic and thought, "She'll do."

    Demean the "help-mate" criteria all you want, but to this day, I am reaping the benefits of that union."

    When I read this the first time I realized that it could be taken a number of different ways and at least one of those would not be good....as you have noted. Please remember, that was his grandfather and not him. The 'benefit' he mentioned was likely being brought into this world. As he indicated, these forums are not always successful at conveying intent or tone and can easily go 'south', even when it was not intended.  


  15. 19 minutes ago, shortridge said:

    Hello, sir. Have you met scrapple?

    LOL, deeeelish! Similar to our regional 'livermush' which I can sheepishly admit to scarfing down in large quantities, fried....when much younger....before I knew what was in it. Goetta is better but my fav is, naturally, crawfish or gator boudin, neither of which I can find locally. The cuisine of Louisiana is just wonderful. And now, that I'm really hungry, I will retire to the kitchen.

  16. 1 hour ago, WisconsinMomma said:

    Here's the thing, it's not funny.  My husband had a Chemistry professor who told him something like, "the taller they are, the more fun they are to ride."  Is that a joke?  Is it funny?  Is it Chemistry?  This is the kind of garbage that goes around and it's inappropriate. 

    And today, that guy would be in clear violation of Title IX, and if some administrator had been looking for a reason to replace him he'd be out on his ear. I promise my students a safe learning environment. I also inform them that I do NOT promise them a 'comfortable' one. 

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