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There is a long thread on this very topic that I started in October of 2013. I think the title was "Can a SM ban OA elections?" The short answer is he has three options. 1. Change the Scoutmasters mind. 2. Get the CoR to overrule the Committee and SM. 3 Change troops. My son and friends ended up with option #3 after trying their best at #1 and #2.

Should be a wonderful memory for you both! I'm glad that somewhere ordeals are happening again.

I'm planning a trip to Glacier with ex scoutson #1 and his family. Seeing that he now hikes faster than I do and I'm told cell phones are mostly useless up there, any body have a recommendation for communication over 2-3 miles? I've been looking at radios and after watching a dozen YouTube vids, I'm pretty thoroughly confused.

and the s'mores are non fattening !

What fred8033 said! It's the outdoors,the memories ,and the friendships that matter in the end. Don't let a little tin god with delusions of his own importance taint the good that Scouting was. It's hard. I know it is. My Eagle sons are in their mid twenties and thirties now and I'm still working on letting it all go. Going hiking with my grandchildren helps a lot.

Maryland. NCAC. We were permitted to hold ordeals last fall under very stringent restrictions, I suspect it was the lodge executive committee trying to make sure no ordeals were held without actually looking like they were banning them. To the best of my knowledge only one chapter managed to hold one. There were zero cases of Covid transmission. Regardless we are now under an outright ban on any type of physical meeting.

I should be starting the regalia packing process this evening, so I can get the first load up to the Ordeal grounds by 9:00am tomorrow. But like last year there is no Ordeal this spring. t's a weird feeling, having nothing to do. I've been to 38 or 39 ordeals in the 46 years I've been a member. Fingers crossed for next year.

What you say concerning the AHMR is true and your probably correct about the legal aspect as well. But if the crying mother insisted that she told you before the meeting started, and her only kid is missing, that's not a case I would like to set before a jury. To say nothing of the cost of legal counsel.

Yah hmmm, it could be quite useful to have a instantly updated list of who is authorized to pick up the scouts. Case in point, about a dozen years ago one of our scouts was picked up by his dad right after the meeting as he had done many times before. The scouters never gave it a second thought although the scouts mother had dropped him off. Mom arrived 5-10 minutes later and went absolutely berserk. Seems there had been an ugly event in the last week involving alcohol, threats, maybe more. Police had been called, restraining orders issued. Mom called police and her lawyer threatened

Thank goodness! I have a good friend who has nearly 70 years in scouting. Hasn't missed a national Jambo since 1950 something. He wears 21 knots on his shirt. He has more at home in a box. I would not like to be the patch policeman who tried to correct him. Might be entertaining to watch from a safe distance though.

It may well be offense and insulting to someone. But it's also true.

I had to be very careful not to misplace anything on a campout or a scout would gleefully pounce on it and scurry back to his patrol where he would be greeted with great rejoicing. Then usually at dinner I would be approached by the PL saying " Mr. Old scout, I believe we have something of yours that requires a song.". Naturally the whole troop having been clandestinely informed this was coming would be dropping whatever they were doing to watch me sing I'm a Little Teapot. There was of course one adult who told me that I shouldn't do such things or the boys wouldn't respect me. He se

Safer? Yeah I guess so. Since it looks like the majority of camps will cease to exist, troops will fold left and right,so the ex-scouts can safely stay in their basement playing WoW. Honest question, do you really think there will be 'future generations of scouts'?

My income has dropped by about half during thrse past 12 months of shutdowns. I could certainly use an extra. $50-$60 K. Or even $6 K. But as I have said on previous posts, I can not see any justice in depriving a million or more Scouts of their summer camps because a long dead Scoutmaster didn't deserve the name. I have no wish to expound on the various punishments that I think would be appropriate for these predators. But stealing from the scouts isn't fair or just. It may indeed be legal, but it still ain't right

" Attentiveness to the needs of others is the hallmark of a Vigil" What I look for is someone who actively looks for things that need to be done and humbly does them. Even better he gets others to help and inspires them by working the hardest. Or putting in the most hours. It can be something as small as noticing that no one has built the campfire at a camporee, and skipping some free time to build it. Or as large as putting together a select team of very experienced campers to go camping with the new scout troops in the council. I had one scout who was given the Vigil honor the

Which sadly is exactly where a lot of my scouting friends and I have ended up.

I sit at the Campfire alone now, my companions now sadly departed. Yet I remember their names, as I gaze in the flames. How young we all were when we started. We were promised adventure in Scouting, if we followed it's long Rugged Road. So we hoisted our packs, grabbed a dull ax, and as we hiked we learned the Scout Code. Young friendships were forged as we camped in the woods, learning of bears,trees and stars. We drove the older scouts near mad with our questions, " Is that the North star or Mars?" We wore our new patches so proudly, Tenderfoot, First Class and Star.

Oooh, a real Lion patch! I remember seeing the oldest coolest cubs wearing them at my first pack meeting. I promised myself that I'd earn one someday, but they were phased out when I was working on my bear.

"Happy talk PR." Hmm, I tend to use another word for it. Considerably more accurate but perhaps not suited for a scout forum

The only way to end this menace is to cast the swallow into the fires of Mount Doom where it was forged. Hatched Whatever

If it weighs the same as a duck...

Which is why a lot of Scouters with 20-30 years in the program have decided that it's just not worth it, and sadly walked away.

A success? Well mostly. The modifications worked pretty well although the candidates stepping forward one at a time, quietly giving the admonition to Allowat, and putting on their own sashes took about 30 seconds each. In our rehearsal the "candidates" only took 15. Of course they already knew what to say. So even though we skipped the song and only demonstrated the handclasp the ceremonies took longer than we planned. In addition the guides leading the first group of candidates somehow took a wrong turn on the trail leading to the circle of our lodge. Which delayed us 15? minutes right from

If anyone is interested, our ordeal is a go! Only 10 days away now and it's been an frustrating, exhausting, inspiring, experience trying to get the ceremonies part up and running. Our normal camp is off limits now so... Find a site, clear a ring (BIG fallen trees to move) figure out where the trails go, clear and mark them. Read all the new safety protocols, come up with some ideas how to implement them. At the first rehearsal realize that half of them aren't going to work. Back to the drawing board. Realize the ring isn't big enough to keep everyone apart, enlarge it. Find o

Are there any lodges out there holding any activities this year?