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  1. Matua, as you said, the answer to the "dual registration" question itself is clear. However, I don't know if that fully answers the question. The issue here is not really a Scouting question at all, so it is not really a question that you have to deal with. The policy in question is not a Scouting policy, it is a "policy" of that particular school. (Scout policy as far as I know, is that boys and parents get to choose what unit they are going to join, and while a unit can say that only members of a certain church or whatever may join, there is nothing that says that if you live in a partic
  2. If your den is a bear den, next year in Webelos you can do actual model rocketry. I think that is one of the things in the Scientist activity badge (unless that has changed in the new Webelos book.) I think each boy participating has to be at least 10 years old... or maybe that was just a reference to the age requirements in most states... you can check when the time comes.
  3. You know, somewhere in Afghanistan tonight some poor teenaged webmaster will go to bed without enough server space, because you guys are wasting it here...
  4. I went to scoutstuff.org and could not find this... at least not on the same page with the other handbooks. Unless that is what is listed as the "Boy Scout Handbook Hardbound" for $20.95. It doesn't say anything about a spiral binding though. I will probably end up regretting asking this, but: FatOldGuy, what is wrong with the current handbook? Keep in mind, this is the first one I have worked with since the two that were in use when I was a Scout (the second of which was the 1972 handbook that we have been discussing on another topic... the one that supposedly took the outing out of
  5. Sctmom says: I agree with minimal announcements because you know what? People aren't listening anyway. Couldn't have said it better myself. When I was Assistant Cubmaster and our CM was at the podium making announcements, I would stand in the back or middle and watch the people not listening. Even the parents who were trying to listen had a hard time because, even if the boys started out being quiet, there was always this gradually increasing "buzz" from the boys that was impossible to control. You can't expect a bunch of 6- to 10- year old boys to sit still and quiet for 15 minut
  6. BobWhite says: No, the CO has the responsibility to be a thoughtfull caretaker of the finances. To make sure that the unit is functioning properly and that it's assets are used responsibly for the scouts in the unit. OK, that seems reasonable. I guess it is the word "own" and its variants that get things confused. What you describe, particularly in the second half of your second sentence describes a "trust" relationship, not outright ownership. I think that to most people, "own" without some other qualifying words, means that the property is yours to do what you want with, with no
  7. I was just out driving for about 15 minutes in the middle of the day and took the occasion to turn on Rush Limbaugh. Sure enough, he was talking about General Clark the whole time. I suspect I could have picked any 15 minutes today, or this week, and Rush would have been talking about the same thing. Part of what he did was to make fun of the general for being named "Wesley." Very insightful political commentary.
  8. OGE, I agree with your assessment of Eisenhower. I think the fact that he was able to parlay his military experience into the presidency had little to do with how much actual experience or "brilliance" or anything else, that he had or didn't have in any particular aspect of military command. He was a viable candidate because he was perceived as having been primarily responsible for defeating Nazi Germany in World War II. How much of that was real and how much of that was personal "style," ability to get rival commanders to work together or at least not derail the overall effort through thei
  9. I have never heard or read of using the Scout Sign when putting hand over heart in "salute" to the flag. Either you are in uniform, in which case it is the Scout salute, or you aren't, in which case it is the regular hand-over-heart (not three-fingered.) Now, I guess I should admit that for this purpose my son's troop (and to my recollection, mine when I was a Scout) interprets one to be "in uniform" even when hats have been removed (such as when in the church itself for a Court of Honor.) At troop meetings (in the school building adjoining the church) hats are worn indoors. Either of
  10. Kwc, that's an interesting theory. Although I disagree with William Safire on many issues, I do have respect for him as an honest commentator, and I'm willing to assume that if he says something like that, at least he believes it, whereas if it were someone like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Tony Snow or most of the other Fox News Channel folks, I would think it was just part of their "spin campaign" to help President Bush. However, I don't think think his theory is correct. Leaving aside the issue of whether the Clintons would be able to pull it off, I thinking it is doubtful that this is w
  11. The conservative talk-radio apoplexy over General Clark continues. They are really petrified at the prospect of President Bush having to face this guy in an election. As I said last week, they are continuing to do their best to try to tie him to former President Clinton. They say Clinton is behind him, but then almost in the next breath, they say Clinton is trying to get his wife to run. Come on guys, pick a story.
  12. FatOldGuy asks: Is that from the time that old timers call "when they tried to take the 'Boy' out of BoyScouts"? Some might. That is the time period I am referring to, anyway. I mentioned that in my first post on this subject (the really long one), about how the word "Boy" was missing. I have heard various people speculate as to why that was, but it is probably just a "trivia question" at this point. I think that more "old timers" refer to that time (starting 1972 I believe) as when the BSA tried to "take the 'outing' out of Scouting," pointing to such evidence as Camping and Cook
  13. Oh, and... Although David Eisenhower did marry Julie Nixon, presidents Eisenhower and Nixon were not "related." There might be some cultures in which you somehow get to be considered a "relative" of your grandson's wife's father, but I don't think this is one of them. You might consider them "family," but "related" should be a little more specific than that. They aren't even "related by marriage."
  14. On the "which presidents are related" issue: "Related" is a bit too ambiguous a word, unless it is defined. Many of us would probably be surprised at who some of our tenth or fifteenth cousins are; in most cases that would take in quite a number of people. When the "related presidents" question is asked in a trivia contest (which as you may have guessed from my earlier post, I have been in one or two or...), it is usually asked as which presidents are direct ancestors/descendants of each other. (Those would be the Adamses, Harrisons and Bushes.) The Johnsons share a name but were unrelate
  15. As I look at the title of this thread... and then read packsaddle's last post, all I can say is, this has been a rather well-traveled thread, hasn't it? From a real estate lease to Aristotle in 3 pages...
  16. So DS (and Bob), are you saying that while a unit is operating (in other words the charter is in force), a CO can simply arbitrarily say to the unit, hand over all the money in the unit's checking account? If that is the case, I am just glad nobody ever told the CO of my son's former pack about that. We did not need the parent-teacher organization exercising that level of "ownership." Fortunately with my son's troop there does not seem to be any danger of that, the CO is fully supportive of the troop and the troop remembers that when it comes time for service projects. Things like
  17. I have not used Packmaster either. I understand all packs in our council are now getting up and running with it if they were not already, but I am not in the pack anymore. (And troops are getting going with Troopmaster as well, of course.) In my son's pack (like others who have posted), a den was assigned a number when the boys joined as Tigers and kept the same number until those boys crossed over or graduated in fifth grade. I do not know if it says to do this anywhere in the "literature," but the fact that there are den numeral patches implies (to me) that the numbers travel with th
  18. Well, I looked at my old uniform, and of course the arrow of light is on the pocket immediately below my Life badge (oval patch.) When it moved, I don't know. And by the way, on my old uniform the strip above the right pocket (that would now say "Boy Scouts of America" has a red fleur-de-lis and the words "Scout B.S.A." It is a green collarless shirt probably purchased around 1973-74.
  19. I don't know, kwc, I think the conservative establishment (Republican party plus radio pundits plus Fox News Channel) would love to see Senator Clinton run for president. The opportunities for Clinton-bashing, not to mention fund-raising, would be beyond comprehension. I don't think she is going to run this time because she does not want to run against an incumbent. I personally don't ever want to see her run, because I think her personality and history would put the focus on her rather than on the issues. I am sick of the politics of celebrity (actually I am sick of the whole culture of c
  20. Merlyn, re: the wide-URL thing, did you use some secret, magical code to prevent the line from wrapping? Because usually it just wraps onto a second line and doesn't cause the "message box" to expand. There have been URLs a lot longer than that posted on here. Or perhaps it was just an "act of God." Hee, hee... I'm just such a funny guy sometimes. Oh by the way, the God thing was a joke.
  21. It's kind of jarring to see a thread for the first time after it has already split into three or four sub-threads. So here is what I have to say about all of it, or at least some of it. I know my son's Arrow of Light (sorry, to me AOL still means an online service) is below his pocket. If nobody had said otherwise I would have thought that was where it always was. When I get home tonight I am going to check my old uniform hanging in my closet (circa 1973, I think it is one of the ones that has "Scouts BSA" on the strip above the pocket because they didn't want to say "Boy Scouts," whic
  22. Again I am reading here what I have read several times before, which is that money raised by unit fundraising becomes the property of the CO. Unless I am hallucinating, our friendly local Scouting professional, Mr. Steele, recently stated that this is not the case. I forget exactly what he said was the case, but it seemed a lot more logical than the idea that the CO could, if it wished, simply appropriate funds given by donors for Scouting programs -- even if the donation is merely a dollar paid by someone knocking over bottles with a baseball at a fair -- or the 2-dollar profit from the sal
  23. My troop has a trailer, I don't know what kind it is, I can try to find out. I know it was bought used which probably is what most troops would have to do (assuming it was not just donated.) I know that they got various companies to donate the paint, lettering etc. etc. and all of their names and company logos are on the back of the trailer. (I think that's ok, I could be wrong.) One funny thing is that it was previously owned by a gutter repair business, and the lettering was almost completely removed, but if you stand right next to it, you can still read what was there. On a recent trip
  24. Laurie, based on your first post I was confused also, as to whether this was a registration issue or a youth protection issue, or both. Now that I have returned to respond, your second post clears up part of it. You (or whoever handles registration for your pack) were given a completed and signed application and the required fee, and I assume it was relayed to council in order to register the boy. The identity of the person who actually paid the fee is irrelevant. The parents signed the form. (You say he has been to a den meeting "though the parents have not been met by anyone." Does tha
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