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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    Such cynicism in one so young.
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    I would add a fourth criterion: That the new name did not open the BSA up to a very plausible claim of trademark infringement. On that count it is a failure.
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    Eagle Board of Review (Appeal)

    Latin Scot's DAC is correct about one thing: A unit may not REQUIRE a "troop board of review" for Eagle, as the "preliminary" or "practice" EBOR's are called in my district. I believe that was made clear in the most recent version of the G2A, or maybe the one before that. I see nothing wrong with a troop OFFERING a "practice" EBOR, if it will make the Scout more comfortable. I don't see how a DAC can prohibit it. In fact, I don't see how a DAC, or any district committee chair, can issue any "mandates" to units, on any subject. How are they going to enforce it? Our troop has never done preliminary EBOR's and our Scouts always pass the actual EBOR's with flying colors. It really is a celebration of what the Scout has done. I have heard that there have been Scouts who do "fail" their EBOR's in our district, but I don't see how that happens based on the 15 or so that I have participated in for our troop. The only somewhat "sour note" of any kind that I can recall was when one of our Scouts included in his life goals that if he ever had a son in the Scouts that he would volunteer to be an adult leader, unlike his own father who was an Eagle but never became an adult leader for his son's troop and never did anything to help out. He wrote all that in the thing. I don't think we asked him about it, because what was he going to say, and we were kind of stunned into silence by the fact that the kid had criticized his own father in his Eagle paperwork. Kind of a gutsy move on the kid's part, and he wasn't wrong.
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    Where did you go to summer camp?

    I did not look back to see if I ever responded to this thread since it was started in 2003. To my recollection my summer camps as a Scout were as follows: Allamuchy, Stanhope NJ (then Morris-Sussex Council, now Patriots Path Council) - 1972 Ten Mile River, NY (both summer camp and TLD, the predecessor of NYLT) - 1973 Philmont - 1974 Masawepie (way northern NY state) - 1975 It is possible that I went to camp as an 18-year-old ASM in 1976, but I don't remember. If so, it probably would have been Allamuchy. (If there seem to be a couple of years missing, there are - for various reasons, including quitting for awhile, I did not go to summer camp in1969-71.)
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    Eagle1993, I want to read the complaint, which I have printed out, before commenting. My daughter and grandson who live in Washington State are here for a week-long visit so I am kind of giving that my priority at the moment, other than work of course.
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    What they should have done is come up with a completely new name for the age 11-17 program for girls, which is what they said (or at least strongly implied) when the changes to Cub Scouting were first announced about a year ago. But they didn't. And they left us locals with an issue that, while its an issue, is not insurmountable. We can say "female" instead of "girl." It's awkward, but it's not a huge deal.
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    No, it wasn't.
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    Oh my gosh, lawyers are involved? Take cover, hide the women and children, it's a disaster! That was sarcasm.
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    Ok, we have different ideas about how worked up people (other than the parties and their lawyers) are going to get over a trademark dispute, but there's only one way to find out..
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    I think it's exactly the opposite, but whatever.
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    That's very cute. The papers will be served in the morning.
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    I think this case is about trademark infringement (as the GSUSA complaint says it is), but I guess that's just me being a silly lawyer.
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    I could be wrong, but I think the Girl Scouts won that case because they were calling themselves "Girl Scouts", with "Scout" modified by "Girl." I don't think the outcome would have been the same if they had been just using the name Scouts, with no gender identification - as the BSA is doing now. I am not saying the GSUSA is necessarily going to win this case, but I do think it could go either way.
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    Girl Scouts Suing the Boy Scouts

    I suggested "Girl Guides." But that probably would have caused a different lawsuit.
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    Scouting ties in the Trump Administration

    It makes a fellow proud to be a Boy Scout.
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    Materials in Spanish?

    Google Translate is good for entertainment purposes only. Try translating something from English to another language, and then paste the result and translate that back into English. It's good for a laugh.
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    PLC hazing and bullying problem

    Let's talk about this particular boy. The fact that he forced another boy to sit still while he rubbed his barely-clothed genitals on the other boy's head does raise the prospect that he may do so again, to somebody else, of whatever gender. It also raises the distinct possibility that he may do something worse to someone else, of whatever gender. It also raises the question of whether this is the first time he has done that to someone.
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    PLC hazing and bullying problem

    Maybe there is some sort of Scouting program in the local juvenile detention facility. I say that not to be mean, but just as a reminder that this kid committed what would be a "felony" if he were an adult.
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    PLC hazing and bullying problem

    I hate the idea of reporting a kid to council, but as with everything else, there is a "line" where conduct is no longer in a grey area. The actions of the SPL cross the line. I am not sure about the Scouts who watched and encouraged, but the perpetrator definitely crossed the line. He has also committed what would be (in my state) a serious juvenile offense, which would be a fourth-degree crime (the lowest level, but still a crime) if he were an adult. The crime of "criminal sexual contact" is defined, (again, in New Jersey) as an “intentional touching by the victim or actor, either directly or through clothing, of the victim’s or actor’s intimate parts for the purpose of degrading or humiliating the victim or sexually arousing or sexually gratifying the actor.” (Bold-face added.) The contact described clearly meets that definition. If he had done it once, and stopped when he was asked to stop, it might be difficult to prove "intent", but since he did it four more times after being asked to stop, "intent" is clearly there. The above does not constitute legal advice and, in any event, may not apply in your state.
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    Questions about scouting

    What position(s) do you hold in the pack and troop? It sounds like you are probably an Assistant Scoutmaster in the troop, in which case it is not your responsibility to know where any Scout is in his book. In the pack, if you are the Den Leader or an Assistant Den Leader who has been specifically designated to keep track of the Cubs' advancement, maybe it is your responsibility. If you are a committee member, not. It is not clear from your post whether you are 21 yet, so I don't know what positions you are eligible to hold.
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    Questions about scouting

    Right on both counts. I am not sure what the average is in the troop I currently serve, but I would estimate that at least 60% of those who make Eagle in the troop finish the requirements within two months before their 18th birthday. I am not even counting the board of review in that estimate. Probably 30-40% have the EBOR after their 18th birthday. Apparently the adult leaders in EagleForever's troop have somehow twisted that statistic into the idea that you are supposed to make Eagle right before you turn 18. Obviously that is incorrect. You are supposed to make it when you make it, as long as it is sometime before the 18th birthday, if you make it at all.
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    Questions about scouting

    First of all, welcome to the forum! Yes, that is a new thing. I am not sure how long it has been in effect since my Cub-leader days are long past (I made Life in 1974 and my only son made Eagle in 2009 ), but it has been less than three years. I am not surprised that the Cubs are having a difficult time with it, because it's ridiculous to expect them to be able to do it, particularly the younger ones. But that is the Word from National. It sounds very wrong. First of all, as you know, the deadline is the 18th birthday, so if they literally "wait until they are 18" they won't make it at all. Even "waiting" until you are 17 is a good recipe for not making it at all, because nothing ever takes the amount of time you think it will. Especially at that age, youth tend to procrastinate, although it looks like you did not, since you made it at 15. My son made Life at 14, and if he had moved at a reasonable pace, he would have made Eagle before his 17th birthday. He did not move at a reasonable pace. He ended up making Eagle 2 days (and zero business days) before his 18th birthday, and even then he made it because several people went out of their way for him. That is what happens when you "wait." It's a very bad thing to tell the kids.
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    New girls in Scouting

    It boggles my mind that anyone who has a daughter (I have two, both of whom are adults and moms themselves) would object to that requirement. Peoples’ energies should be put into finding more female leaders, not complaining about it.
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    YPT

    Well, sexual abuse and two-deep, digital etc are related; one is the problem and the others are ways to reduce the occurrence of the problem. But generally I agree with you. There is too much time spent telling us what the problems are and why they are a problem, and too little time discussing the "solutions," i.e. the barriers to abuse (2-deep, no 1-on-1 etc.) It may be that I am a little jaded about this, because I have either taken or "facilitated" (back when it was an in-person-only course) the various versions of YPT going back to 1999, probably 25 times or so. For awhile the district had me on their regular "teaching" rotation. So I kind of feel like I don't really need to sit through yet another recitation of how much child abuse there is and why it's bad. I know already.
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    Adult Supervision for Online Communications

    Yes, Captain Jack Sparrow, but what are the consequences of not following the "guideline"? (That is an actual question, I do not know the answer in this context.) If the consequences of not following a "guideline" are the same as the consequences of not following a "rule", then it really doesn't matter what they call it.
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