Basementdweller

ah come on sentinel if your boys can't figure out the solution to forgotten food they deserve to starve. solution 1......don't admit there is a problem and go hungry. A lesson they will never forget. Solution 2.....Realize they have a problem and got to the spl asking for guidance. Seriously, I would never let a patrol starve. But I am not going to out and cover their back by bringing food because I know they forgot it. What is the lesson in that? Oh we don't have to worry because the SM has us covered. Safe fail right? But the OH crap we forgot to

I always use the public library, not in a private meeting room. Keeps the youth and parents out of my house

Naive cub parents.....pssssssssssssst That gal is a BORED wealthy stay at home catholic school soccer mom. A sad sad thing to read. The best advice I ever got was start looking for your replacement as soon as your in the job. There is a Prospective tiger dad who was a life scout in the pipe, I will start working him bear year and make sure I shake his hand and say hi every week at the meeitngs. My adult situation has improved, I got 2 additional adults as asm who actually passed the BSA background check. So there are 4 of us on outings now.

oh sentinel you silly boy If we want to get into the entire scout law debate and being a quality adult fit for leading a troop lets take the gloves off. How many Cubmasters and Scoutmasters are divorced? hmmmm, How many have conviction for various offenses? Many How many obese leaders do we have? How many have extra marital affairs? How many of those have happened on scout trips? How many BSA leaders have chosen scouting over their Family? We can go all day here. Every scout camp has a smoking policy and honestly I am glad smoking leader is there vers

Guessing the OP isn't happy with the CO's original unit and can do it better. so wants to start another unit

I am guessing the OP is a youth. Smoking was the social norm until quite recently. so for the last 2000 years we have walk north america and men have smoked. Only in the last 20 years and more specifically the last 10 has it become socially undesirable. So your SM is probably in his 40's or 50's and has smoked since his teens or early 20's. Smoking is currently not illegal, or forbidden at scout events. Instead of complaining about the SM may be he should be grateful there is someone interested in providing a scouting program for him. Millennial parents are not volunteering

That was an incredibly funny thread......All I gotta say is wow. She's something, and I need to thank the Lord my CC and Committee have given me support to rid our unit of this sort of human refuse. All of my parents who were problems have been asked to leave or have seen the light in what we are trying to accomplish after several parent meetings. Patrol method is more than a noble idea or chapter in a training manual. The boys can and will train, plan and lead each other if you allow them too. Rarely is it pretty, but the boys don't care......it is their program and they

Man I missed a live one here. just about busted a gut laughing at post #5 and then the follow up. Write this one down......I agree with baseball fan, as den leader I would approach the CC and CM about asking you and your boys to leave the unit. From the way it reads here I am sure they would support their DL, especially one with 3 years of tenure. So the old tiger den leader who probably has held a total of 4 meetings is an organized stellar professional. The old dirt bag bear den leader who has not collected a nickle in den dues for the last two years is a unorganiz

So how many boys could attend a week of summer camp with that amount of cash????? let me see.....35 scouts at my camp. How many weekend camping trips would that finance? for my troop 20 or nearly 2 years of program How many tents would that buy.......we buy timberline 4 outfitters.......300 each so 22 of those. Very screwed up. That amount of money could impact so many more boys than one or two scouts.

Been a while folks. troop has outgrown my desired number of 36........now at 50. with probably another 20 or so joining in the february march time frame, as we hosted a fall webelos campout and ended up with webelos from 3 different packs. Our webelos leader shared the info at roundtable and the phone started ringing........I am not gonna turn away a boy. gotta laugh, there is some serious butthurt around the district about it....but that is another story. Patrol method is beginning to take hold and the boys are starting to get it. We generally have 2 or 3 patrol outin

Your not boy led, you bailed them out. let them fail and then figure it out.

Didn't your daughter return from the jambo with a new boyfriend......How many youth were sent home for encounters in the woods??? I heard a number, but won't repeat it as I do not have first hand knowledge. Evidently you haven't been around 13-15 year old boys much.......they are wound up by nature.

Sounds like an interesting issue for the IRS to look into....Using money raised for a non profit for individual benefit. The enterprise looks suspect. Scrap metal for troop gear is OKAY, for vacation to japan, not so much.

Scoutnut, Ask the parents and boys who got sent home for meeting the girls after lights out on Tuesday night. So why werent the girls sent home?

So in an hour a week and 40 hours once a month, I am supposed to undo what is currently socially norms/acceptable behaviors. Turn on the TV or facebook and look at acceptable behavior. Your a bit out of touch sir.

I just got a phone call from the dad of the scout in the OP. This is the first time this scout has done anything like this. He is also terrified. He’s not terrified that he’s got a court date, that he’s going to be taking urine tests until he’s 18, or that he’ll likely lose his license. He’s terrified that I’m going to throw him out of the troop. I have his attention like I’ve never had before and honestly this is much better than I hoped. Not only that, but hopefully if he listens to me he’ll stop listening to the “friendsâ

your making assumptions, Recreational drug use is becoming more and more socially acceptable. Maybe his parents are ok with it. We never know.

Your absolutely right, I will live to the letter of the requirement. But he will not be permitted a leadership position, because that requires scoutmaster approval. He will not be permitted to go on outings, again concerns about previous behavior, No signatures of recommendation from me. So you guys are all gonna roll over and let this kid slide. good for you, Not me, I will stand on my own two feet and do what I feel is right.

I figured I would have a mom or lady post saying it was the boys fault. I never called the girls tramps. One of the leaders did at leaders the meeting did. Just an FYI, The boys are completely clothed except at the water front or pool The girls should dress in the same manner as the boys. Tshirt and basketball shorts seem to be the style for the week, I would have the same issue with a young man showing up in yoga, or tiny shorts and a string top or tube top. It just isn't appropriate. Ya I have a huge beef with what happened and went on. It

The camp staff are properly attired in the camp designated uniform. Not belly shirts and short shorts. Let me say the Crew Adult leadership had the audacity to complain at the evening leaders meeting about the harassment their girls were receiving. their attire was brought up and they said it was socially acceptable clothing and we need to teach our boys respect. One leader chimed up if you dress like a tramp you get treated like a tramp. Our society, USA, is failing to teach our boys and girls to respect each other. It was like mating season,

A request for Venture crew leaders. Please steer your Crews, especially those with young ladies, away from traditional boy scout summer camps. It disrupts the boys in a not very constructive manner. If you chose to ignore this request. Please make sure they have things to wear other than short shorts and spaghetti strap belly shirts. Changed the camp from a boy scout camp to a testosterone fueled can of stupid.

So what if this happened in Colorado or Washington where it is not illegal? While MJ is a gateway drug there are many function weed abusers, just like functional alcoholics, in our society. Not sure why there is any debate Scouting is the least of this young mans issues. or is it an issue at all? What does mom and dad say? Are they casual users as well? As pointed out the police are not going to do anything to a kid with a couple of joints, even if he was sharing it. So Matt, you need to figure out where YOU stand on the issue. I would do ev

I haven't post in a while, still reading, this nonsense just makes me want to puke. Scouting is about boys of similar age learning to work together towards a common goal. This gets so diluted by adult interference. Tell the lad he failed on scout spirit because of these events. GAmom you going to college to protect your boy from the bad people?????? better he learn to do it at on his own at 12 than 21.

In the fall we go backpacking on the Teacher work day in early October, we leave thursday night and get back Sunday afternoon. Holiday weekends Memorial day, Labor day, 4th of July and others, not so much. Many of my unit head to out of town relatives on those weekends