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  1. Got a copy of an old handbook? The Seventh Edition and earlier have tracking and stalking techniques. You can download a copy of the Stalking Merit Badge book as well. Make a whifflepoof.

    I started with a group of my scouts today on this same merit badge.

    Good luck!

  2. You have to hold the Board of Review because you didn't have one. The scouts had not met the requirements for the next rank therefore they were not eligible for a BOR. If these two scouts get to the point where they are going up for Eagle Scout and dates for Merit Badges and Ranks don't jive they could be told no before that BOR.

    Need 4 Eagle required Merit Badges for Star and 1 is after the date of Rank guess what boy would not have a leg to stand on and it would be the SM and Committees Fault, period.

    I think your Adult leader's need training. If they don't know the requirements then read the Handbook. Keep better records and then read them.

  3. Get yourself a copy of the Boy Scout Handbook. On the inside front and back covers are guides for the placement of patches on the scout uniform. If you you follow these you should be good to go. A uniform inspection sheet has the placement as well.


    Your Ballo patch from the sounds of it is a tempoary patch and would be worn on the right pocket as you said. So to save yourself some time get a "Hook on your button thingy", you can use it for other event patches as well.


    Wear your patch with pride. You will earn it over and over again.



  4. Eagle92.

    Great Peeve, its mine too. When I was young,(back in the 70's) I was asked to be a Webelos Den Leader. (There were two webelos dens in the Pack at the time) I thought no problem. I went to the SM, got a Den Chief and went to work. I was 20 and very naive. There were 10 scouts in the den. Each month we worked on 3 Activity Badges, and an Arrow of Light requirement or two. Each month the whole den received some award at the Pack Meeting. When the PWD approached we built the cars at one dad's house as a group. When the racing was done 3 out of 4 positions went to the scouts in my den. 1st, 2nd and 4th. When the B & G Banquet rolled around the boys won best table setting. When the Arrow of Light/Cross over ceremony was held for the two dens in May all 10 of my cubs had earned the Arrow of Light and 4 earned all the Activity Badges, only 5 boys from the other den earned the AOL. Eight of my cubs joined scouts and a few years later 3 made Eagle. The whole time this was going on several other den leaders and a few parents had started complaining about how my den was getting this or doing that and why weren't the other dens winning this or going here, etc... Being the Tactful people that they were they never would or could say anything to my face. So the night our last Pack meeting the CM and CC thanked me for my help. I asked if they want me to take on another den? The CC stated that alot of the parents didn't think I was a good fit for the program. Being naive I asked what he meant. Boy I got an earful. Quite an epiphany in politics. I never realized that I wasn't there to teach scouting just baby sit and stare at the all knowing ADULTS.


    The biggest shock to most of the Pack Leaders and parents was that I was an ASM in the local troop as well. "Oh I thought you quit scouts", or "I didn't know you are with the troop" was a frequent statement I heard for a couple of years. The SM and other ASM's usually stated that I was a good fit with the kids because of my AGE.


    This whole experience gave me such a sour taste that when my son joined Tiger cubs I never volunteered for anything. I would go with them places. Be a partner and all but I didn't have a scout background at all!


    To this day I do not believe that there is a place for politics in scouting. It has no place in dealing with our youth or our younger leaders. To play games leads to bad feelings. They are the future and we need them all.


    And if I ever become an old fuddy duddy I hope they put me out to pasture.




  5. Isn't National forgetting the Scout Oath? Shouldn't a scout have to come up 3 or 4 ways of showing that they are Mentally Awake, Morally Straight or helping other people at all times. Do we need to see their report card to judge if he is Mentally awake? Does he have healthy eating habits and exercise daily?


    They also forgot Leadership. Will these be added to Star, Life and Eagle? Does the scout take charge of a team he is on or in the school band? They must demonstrate leadership on their service project for Eagle, so does he need to to tell me how he did it and what styles of leadership he used? We should be there for most of it anyway, observing and counselling as needed.


    If a Scoutmaster is doing the job, they will know if the scout is living up to the Scout Oath and Law. On outings is the boy Cheerful or Helpful? At meetings is the Scout Friendly and Courteous to new scouts and visitors? Does he exhibit the traits of Loyalty to his patrol or family? Does he participate in troop service projects?


    It is our job to ensure that the lessons are taught through example, SM minutes, and at a SM conference. Helping each scout to understand the principles behind the Oath and Law are what we are all about. I think the requirement for showing scout spirit comes to mind.


    When I hold an SM conference I ask open ended questions on how each scout is doing in school, in the troop and at home. What his plans are for the next rank, Merit Badges he wishes to work on and if he has any ideas for service hours if needed. I want to know what I can do to help him get the most out of the program. I do not need to know how many times he helped an elderly lady across the street, or got Timmy out of the well. These very topics come from the SM handbook.


    If the powers that be wish to add or change a requirement that is okay, yet they should look at what is in place (Scout Spirit) and tweak or update as needed. This requirement does nothing more than take away the SM's ability to drive or steer the conversation in the direction it needs to go. Helping the boy grow, the program go and making us better leaders is what an SM conference is for.


    Maybe a new point for the law; A scout is Modest. He seeks no reward or recognition for any Good Deed. Sorry thats already there under "Do a Good Turn Daily".





  6. When we go camping or hiking we have the scouts point out what can be seen ie identify. Sound comes into play with chirps, croaks, and other calls made by animals. Lastly visual evidence; nests, tracks, feathers, fur or shed skin. 10 animals or sign on a 5 mile hike is very easy. With each sign we have the scout to tell us what the animal is or what animal made the sign. We also ask questions such as; Is the animal an omnivore, herbivore or predator? Is the animal one that hibernates? or Is it migratory?


    As the troop hikes we also do plant identification. Types of oak, pines and other plants in our area. We try to find but stay out of poisonous plants as well.


    We do these hikes year round.


    As our scouts get older they start to lead on the hikes and mentor younger scouts (They like showing off the nature knowledge they have)


    Woirks for us.





  7. I know that a scout has until he is 18 to finish a MB. A partial from summer camp is good until 18yrs old. My question is as a counselor what do you do when the requiremnts have changed? Is the scout required to redo the ones that have changed or if #7 was completed, it's completed. In some cases he might have to redo because a requirement that follows will say using the list in #7 make a presentation of your findings to your unit.


    This hasn't happened to me yet, I'm just wondering if it has to anyone else. Just a hypothetical question.

  8. This sounds like an opportunity to do some training. Conduct training for your entire PLC to include responsibilities for their POR, expectations (yours and theirs), rules of conduct and have each participant help lead one session and conduct the reflection for that session. This might help this scout to realize that he is not alone and that he has people he can turn to. Also leading a reflection might help him be a little more flexible in his dealings with others when hearing and seeing their perspective in a non-hostile or non-confrontational environment.

  9. Our PLC plans for the whole year. Our summer program includes one day service projects, weekend camp outs (at least once a month), summer camp and a special trip or two of 4 days to a museum or other historical site as part of a camp out. Our 4 day trips have included hiking in the U.P. and this year a trip to the straits of Mackinac.

    For us shutting down in not an option.


    The Cub pack is active each month of the summer as well. Family picnics, trips to a minor league baseball game and a family camp out where the cubs cook dinner.



    Quatre et livre avec formage

  10. Welcome to the forums! Get in touch with your Unit Commissioner and and District Executive and explain the situation. Have them then explain it to the COR. The COR might not see the problem of losing scouts because of Den size. After explaining that growing Packs have more dens I am sure they will come around.

  11. Have the scout be responsible for the patrol's food. He makes a menu up, gets the shopping done and is the patrol cook. This way there is no sabotaging the menu. He could pass alot of the cooking for 2nd and 1st class but only if he eats. I don't really think it's apron strings either, it's time to cut the cord.

  12. This is the time of year when the PLC should be planning the troops calendar for next year. Have them plan each month with a theme and an outing to coincide with the theme. Each meeting & outing would be set and the scouts would know what expect. The outings could be planned so as to have an activity Friday night (night hike or Astronomy MB) a Saturday AM & PM activity. Then a Saturday night activity (Capture the Flag or Fox & the Hounds). Sunday AM could be used to hold a scouts own service and then maybe a game period with patrol competion. Playing ultimate frisbee against the adults, a nature scavenger hunt or even a troop swim. Stopping on the way home at a taxidermy shop or maybe as mentioned a junk food stop.


    The best way to stop this behavior is to see to it that there is something to do each day of the outing other than just work. The best way to do that is to plan and so that each scout wants to go let them plan and then the adults support their plan.

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