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  1. Scouts is not about teaching boys to be men in the way that Man=Male gender of a certain age. It is about teaching boys to be REAL MEN. Not real outdoorsy men, just Men. This is about teaching maturity and responsibility. It is about teaching values embodied by the Oath and Law. "A Scout is..." should be the same as "A Man is..." The problem that scouts addresses it that too many Males reach physical and social maturity without reaching mental and spiritual maturity. Can a woman teach a boy some of these values? Absolutely. Can she model these values? Yes. Can she model
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    Founder Bar

    The founder's bar is earned IF your name is on the original charter (the New-Unit application), or you join before the first-recharting date, AND the New-unit charter has been accepted by the council. That means if your unit is 4 months old, and the New-Unit application has been completely processed by council, you are allowed to wear the Founder bar.
  3. Just as a side note that may help explain the situation. The Buddhism award in scouting is administered by a sect of Buddhism that acknowledges a supreme being (a creator). Not all sects of Buddhism believe in a god of any kind. Some are quite essentially atheist. This may explain some of where they might be coming from.
  4. There are so many things wrong here. First, a good thing. Someone is really volunteering to be a den leader! In my experience this is one of the hardest positions to get people to step up to doing. The idea of turning this person down makes me shudder. Now for the first wrong thing. The Cubmaster is a Den Leader??? This is short and simple, dual registration. This is not a law of exclusion issue. The regs say you cant (right there on the registration form) so you cant. This needs to be corrected immediately. If this hadn't been the case, this situation might not have happen
  5. In general District Scouters are only scouters that have their primary registration in a district. This would be Members of the District committee, the District Commissioner, ADC's and Unit commissioners, and Chartered Organization Reps. I do have a couple of concerns with this particular policy. Is this the policy for nomination of an award or of membership to the district committee. If the first, it makes sense. If the second, this is not the way members to a district committee are supposed to be selected. They are supposed to be recruited by the District Committee Chair. Also
  6. I am actually not sure of a guideline, and I know I have heard it both ways. However, in my opinion, the first method is definitely the best. We were always taught to have pride in the den. It was really easy to do that when we were Den 7 and no one else was (yes, I remember my den number). However, I can see that would be considerably harder when there were as many as 3 other dens with the same number. If you are trying to make a decision, I would go with the first. If your pack already runs with the second, you might bring the change up, but it is probably not worth pushing.
  7. Here is the way this should work, and this has been described before... 1. CO tells troop they no longer want to sponsor a Troop. 2. Troop asks CO what is to be done with Equipment and Funds. 3. With or without their stuff, all of the leadership moves themselves to another CO and forms a "new" troop. ---This last one has several options depending on #2. CO says - You can't have your stuff. Fine, get new stuff. CO says you can have the stuff but not the money, or just all of it. CO may require they approve the new CO before transfering. If the CO is willing to help you find
  8. David: One question, What is the answer? They cannot stay at that CO, and you say that they cannot find a new CO? So what other alternatives are there that are actually good for the scouts?
  9. Is there a standard not being followed, or is there just no standard at all? Honestly, I think that there should be some items that are truly restricted. However, they should (if they already can't) be able to look you (or your son) up on ScoutNet and see that they did in fact earn this award or rank. However, all of this is probably pretty low on National's list of things to do.
  10. I think it must really be up to the Scout Shop managers what "restricted" really means. I was able to buy all of my patches (even the "restricted") ones without any proof of anything. This included my Eagle Knot. I even asked if I had to have my card to buy a Eagle Medal (they said no, BTW). Maybe my scout shop is doing it wrong, I don't know. However, I do think that the Rank Card is supposed to be acceptable paperwork
  11. Lisabob, I want to make a couple of comments on your "days." I did all of these things as a scout and my count was much lower. weekly troop meeting (4)- Yes, absolutely PLC (5) - Should be on the same night as Weekly meeting (usually before) so (4) monthly camp-out, Friday-Sunday (8) Granted (7) service project (9) - Every month, really? (7) fund raiser (10) - See above (7) merit badge meeting with a counselor (11) Granted, (8) Eagle COH or extra patrol meeting or special district event or whatever (12) - Anywhere close to every month? What special district event does your s
  12. Since no one has posted a link to the proposed requirements, I am going to assume that no one actually knows them. If that is the case, no one can speak to how this award will fit into the Venturing program. To that note lets take an *Analogy* of Boy Scouts. It has been suggested here that the Outdoors are a pivotal part of Venturing. Whether or not that is (or should be) true, I think we all can agree on how important the outdoors are to Boy Scouts. That being said, there are MANY Merit Badges that involve Math and Science. Many of them also have an innate connection to the outdoors. To
  13. I really have only one thing to say. As an Eagle scout who was a (not always respectful) pistol of a scout, I have one piece of advice about this situation. LEAVE! Don't have your son apologise. If you are satiisfied at a punishment that *YOU* deal out and enforce, then that is all you need to do. There is NO WAY you can fix this situation from the inside. "Advisors" of any sort other than where they belong (Unit Commissioners) are a very BAD thing. If you insist on staying and dealing with this do these things, and do not allow anything else. 1. REQUIRE the COR or
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    Patch Blanket

    For anyone who has done a patch blanket, did you match the thread to each individual badge (so the back looks funny) or did you use all red thread? I can't decide which will look better.
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    Badge Magic

    I know some don't like this easy way out, but I just used the stuff on my uniform and it was the easiest process. I will let everyone know how it performs over the next few months. Here is what brought me to this. I got a Centennial uniform (canvas). I really like the way it fits and feels. I had two problems. The pocket flap has changed size and my OA flap doesn't fit quite the same. I was unable to find a way to sew it on without the thread being obvious (you can't hide the thread in the border anymore). Second, the position patch was just annoying me. With the Badge magic, both
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    Atheism

    This has "Troll Alert" written all over it, but I am going to reply anyway. "It is proven that atheists are more intelligent than theists..." Again, please provide support. I am going to brag for a minute. I am finishing a doctoral degree. I am a published researcher. I graduated with honors from undergraduate. My IQ on the Stanford-Benet test is 152 (99th percentile). I am a Christian. "Almost every good scientist is an atheist" Please provide proof. Do not claim to think scientifically without being prepared to provide proof. "Why don't you let children decide for
  17. I think the punishment is appropriate. It expresses disapproval and deals out consequenses without really being corporal punishment. It is also a little more than a slap on the wrist. When dealing with this kind of situation, everyone needs to remember a couple of things. Are the scouts sorry? Do they understand what they did was unacceptable? Do they understand why it was unacceptable? Does the punishment teach them anything? You CANNOT use corporal punishment. You SHOULD NOT use anything that resembles corporal punishment. Work (service, dish washing, etc.) is not neces
  18. I would use Badge Magic. It seems to work the best for placing patches on that pocket. It also comes off quite nicely if you do it right. There is a video on the badge magic website about how to remove the patch. I did it just like the video said and you can't even tell there was ever a patch there.
  19. Athiestic parents are a tricky thing in Scouting. You are a strong influence in his life, but your beliefs are not going to necessarily always match his. There are requirements in his future boy scout career that mention religion and faith, but I would encourage you to take this time now to explore your own beliefs. Does your life have a moral yardstick, how do you measure right and wrong? Many athiests in scouting take their philosphical beliefs, call it Humanism, and attest it as their "religion." Teach these standards to your son and require all his leaders to handle his beliefs as
  20. le Voyageur - "An apparent problem I see first up is where these different types of units co mingle at summer camps. They would have to have seperate weeks to prevent intercine warfare." I really think that both being at camp would be fine. I'm not sure what kind of "warfare" you refer to, certainly nothing that would be scout-like" Scoutfish - They didn't ask about your sexual orientation, but you agreed to live by the oath and law. That agreement includes (though not on the acutal application) an agreement to live by the Oath and Law as interpreted by the BSA which currently includes
  21. I would like to offer my opinion about how to "fix" the problem of "discrimination" in the BSA as related to Atheist and Homosexual leaders. First, a few assumptions... 1. The objections of the LDS church is based on the potential for homosexual leaders in positions that are both "superior" in relation to their unit and out of their total control. (ex. District scouters and above) 2. Agnosticism is equated with Atheism in that the general definition of "Agnostic" is someone who thinks that a higher power cannot be known/proven and has no relation to our lives. Those who believe in a
  22. First, I really never saw any one tell me what they would do other than "work with him." - I really do have a problem with this approach. One, it is so incredibly vague it really doesn't say anything. Remember, he already is working with a mental health professional. What else are you going to do? Second, Some made comments about their "irrational fears." One person mentioned almost drowning and fearing water, the other mentioned a fear of flying after the Challenger. Neither of these are irrational. They both have reasons associated with the fear even if they were not considered "g
  23. I really have just one question. What do you do with a young boy who has a "severe irrational fear" of water that goes over his knees? Lets even say that he has a clinically diagnosed phobia and is working with a psychiatrist to overcome his fear. I really want to know what you as a scouter would say to this boy. BTW I really do know a boy like this. After 3 years of working with the doctor, they requested alternative requirements. He was told that he could not be accomadated "simply because he was a little scared." The boy would later age out of scouting a Tenderfoot scou
  24. My original lodge actually had 4 seperate but almost identical lodge flaps. Each had a different border, Ordeal=white, Brotherhood=red, Vigil Honor=Gold, Trader=black. At my ordeal it was explained to me that the purpose of the colors was to identify those who were new and those who had been honored even when the sash was impractical or inappropriate. Personally, I like the different borders. I think that if we complain about the different borders and any inequality that implies, then we ought also to equalize the sashes as well. The different color borders are a much more subtle different
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