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  1. An old cadence from Manatoc, and probably many other camps was: Boy Scout, Boy Scout Don't look down. There aren't no Girls Scouts On the Ground. Sound Off!! Of coures Camp Ledgewood (the Girl Scout camp) was about a rugged 2-3 mile hike from Camps Butler and Manatoc.
  2. Nick, They're still making you guys march at Manatoc? Good!!! I'm an old Manatoc Scout from the 70's. I spent a lot of time out there between Troops 18 and 182 and OA. If I remeber correctly, you will come onto the parade field as you march in from your campsite. Use the jodies then. When you reach your Troops lineup spot and stop, call Troop 412 HALT. I don't remember the next command, but it is the equivalent of "Right, Dress Right", but the Scouts extend their right arm straight out and place their hand on the shoulder of the person in front of them to get their spacing. Maybe Gunny
  3. I just finished placing flags on the gravesites of veterans at two of our villages cemetaries. We ran across one bronze marker that we could not identify. From the bottom up it started with either feathers of plumes of leafs that arched out from eachother forming an open circle at the top, In the center were three circle, one center and the other two offset to the top on opposite sides of the first circle. In the upper left circle was the capital letter F, in the center circle the letter L, and in the upper right circle the letter T. The person was born in the mid 1836 and died in 1914. the ce
  4. Here's an idea. Next spring, have the "Video Game Camporee". get a few former gaming adults together. Have them go pick apart some of the more popular video games for program area ideas. OOPS, I forgot, they're to violent. Alright find some non-violent games, pull some ideas for an area activity and incorporate Scout skills. Set that area up around having to complete the task or level to move on to the next area/level. Offer up some great prizes for the patrols that make all the levels. Promotion wise: really promote the weekend as a gaming weekend. Don't let the boys in on the fact that
  5. Mike F, "Back to commercial aspects". Sounds like the casinos. GW, he'll only gain weight if he remembers to stop long enough to eat. LOL.
  6. Beardad, I think you missed the intended correlation between alcohol, drugs and gaming. Yes, one is illegal, the other two are not. Sorry to respectful disagree, but yes, video games can be just as, if not more addicting then the other two. Ask an alcoholic and he'll tell you that yes he likes drinking and doesn't have a problem, and would probably rather be at the bar then on some stupid camping trip or out door activity. Does he have an addiction problem? Not in his eyes. Does that mean a kid that can't wait to get home to get on the system and play for hours, every day does not have
  7. One thought. My oldest son was babysat by my inlaws several days a week while my wife and I worked. They bought a gaming system, Sega I think. We're talking the late 80's and early 90's. Dave played the games with both grandparents for several hours a day. This was when he was 4-6 years old. By the time he was 8 or 9, he was totally burned out on video games, and it was never a problem through his teen years. Maybe we can burn them out early.
  8. OGE, Great!! Waterfront property. The price just went up. LOL. To bad it's not coastal property. Then it wouldn't matter if it was swampy, it would be worth a fortune. Packsaddle, Yep, Solar panels and a reverse meter sounds good. Just think of all the roof space available, especially on camp structures. As for dam removal, over the last 5-10 years, they have been taking down several dams on the Cuyahoga. If they could now remove the three low-head dams and Ohio Edison dam used for the old power-plant, then clean up the muck, we might be able to restore a great picturesque gorge, and
  9. 1) The Scouts would not be supporting a candidate or party. -Or are all the bill's sponsors all from the same party? -Is this a push by the Pa. Scout Councils to get the bill passed because they may stand to gain monetarily if passed? They will definitely be getting free publicity and advertising from the plates. So much for no free rides. 2) Hornaday Project (HIJACK # 2) - One of the project ideas for the award is to have Scouts either come up with proposed legislation relating to conservation and environmental issues and present it to their Rep's or Senators, or help their Rep
  10. le Voyager, Yep, I've been to a couple of the want-a-be Pow Wows before. Actually we were at one where they didn't secure the US flag or the Eagle Staff, and both went down in the wind. Both were picked back up without a second thought, secured a little better, and continued on as if nothing had happened. That is why we usually only attend the ones on the Rez's. That way everything is authentic to that tribe, and the elders are usually more then willing to help the Scouts, as long as the boys are interested and respectful. The ones run locally at the fairgrounds or neighborhood parks s
  11. CNY, Does your son have his BSA Lifeguard certificate, or ARC Lifesaving training? If he does I'll bet they will definitely be checking him out real good. I would rather be hiring a 16y/o or even a mature 15 y/o with the training then an over 17 without it. When our Council camp guys found out that my oldest had his ARC Lifesaving and Waterfront training and was working year round as a city lifeguard, the two years he attended summer-camp, they were all over him to come back to camp to work the waterfront. They didn't care how old he was. He had the maturity and the training they nee
  12. Election results are in. The outgoing Chapter Chief helped the new Chief hold the elections. He gave a speech, which the adults missed because we were tending to another Troop issue, about qualifications, popularity contests, and Special Needs Scouts. He informed the gang that he himself was a SNS, had managed to become Eagle and Chapter Chief amongst other positions.He informed them that they should really think hard about turning things into a popularity contest just because they don't always understand the NSN, and that most SNS are just as qualified if not more so then most of them.
  13. As a Medic for the last 25 years, I have to agree with RmemberSchiff. The ARC Wilderness First Aid is just a taste for the lay person. It gives them just enough information to maybe squeeze by. If it were me, I would be looking at WMA, SOLO or NOLS. Major cost difference, better programs. Most EMT's and Medics are taught urban medicine. OK, add farm medicine for the rural guys. A city guy will in time figure out how to handle a farm accident, with regular training, but the farm boy will know how to do it faster and safer with different techniques that the city guy has no clue about.
  14. mlg, Was 7 Ranges one of the camps they checked out. Just curious. Lisa, I pretty much grew up at Manatoc, but that was back in the 70's. Manatoc and Camp Butler (what used to be the more primitive camp of the two) are ajoining properties using the same waterfront. Manatoc has a pool. Butler, I don't know for sure. They may still use the old waterfront for swimming. Both camps make up about 700 acres and sit within the Cuyahoga Valley National Park. There is plenty of hiking in the valley, and skiing in the winter. The OA's Cuyahoga Valley Trail runs through both camps and is 13.7 miles
  15. We have a couple special need Scouts in our Council. These Scouts will be over 18 at the time of Jambo, but still considered youth members. Is 18 National's cutoff for Jambo? How has Jambo handled the Special Needs Scouts at past Jambo's? How has your Council handled Special Need Scouts and Jambo? How has the Scout's age effected his eligibility? I would hate to see these Scouts(Special Needs Scouts in general,)who usually show more Scout Spirit the most of our teens, be sidelined for such an event because of being 18.
  16. There are other things besides Eagle that he can involve himself with doing. Some can use his academic load from school depending on his iterests. Has he earned his Religious Emblem Awards for your faith? Is he interested in conservationn? If he has the right mix of merit badges, he may be close to achieving the Hornaday Awards if he completes the related projects. He can involve the Troop and have them earn Hornaday Certificate while he earns the badge or one of the medals. He could incorperate the 50 Miler or Historical Trail Award into one of the projects for him and the Troop
  17. Last May, our neighboring Council lost an 11 year old Scout that lived in our town unexpectedly to similar circumstances . Some of our Scouts and myself found out when the funeral procession was expected at the cemetery and had a colorguard at the enterance when the procession arrived. It was a difficult time for their Troop because the Troop consisted of only 3 or 4 families. Our prayers are with your Pack and his family.
  18. FireKat, From one smoke eater to another, I had a friend that I use to work with. She was of Lebanese descent. One day she heard her 4 year old sing a song in Lebanese about the ladies walking down the street with their backsides(word changed) cacheting back and forth. She calmly asked him where he learned the song. He replied "Auntie." Well Auntie had ran the largest brothel east of the Mississppi in Cleveland, with DC clientele. My friend decided to let it drop figuring that he would soon forget the song. She figured that if she had carried on about it that he would have put the song to m
  19. Wow OGE, I wonder what I missed on that thread the other day. The thread must have really went south.
  20. This morning I woke up with 20+ emails from the "Plant Identification" thread and "Improving Webelos Programming". Every time that I try ro opening them, the "unable to view" or "under mainainance, try later" page pops up. This afternoon, same thing, but only on these two threads. What's up?
  21. I was a 16 or 17 y/o Bicentennial Eagle in the good old days when Scouting was Scouting. My oldest was a deathbed Eagle right at 17 and 364 days. Almost all of the Eagles in our Troop get Eagle at 17. Now if they had a strong Venturing program, or started a Rover program, then maybe 14 wouldn't be so bad. I'm more concerned with keeping the boys involved. And freezing their @#$ends off on their first camp-out I'm sure has driven many a youth away. In my days, if you turned 11 in Aug. or September, to bad. That's when you moved to the Troop.
  22. Gold WIng, I'm wioith you. I don't remember any cross over in the late 60's when I turned 11. I remember Webelos being no more then 1 year.. If we need to have cross-over, do it at the first meeting in September. The new Tigers will go WOW, look at those Cubs. They are becoming Boy Scouts. Maybe we won't lose over half the Scouts that we do at spring cross-over, because we freeze them out of Scouting on their first Boy Scout camp-out in Feb. or March. At least with a September cross-over, they'll be prepared for winter camping, and have a year to prepare for summer camp. Why rush th
  23. WDL, 1) Make sure the Web's are prepared to handle such weather. 2) Next year meet with one of your area troops a few weeks to a month before Klondike and have them go over proper clothing and layering, and make sure your guys practice what they learned. You also get your troop visit requirement out of the way. 3) Have a back up plan if you have to cancel, bowling, swimming etc. That way the weekend is not a total lose. Last weekend was our Klondike. Friday night it was a balmy 15-20 degrees, which ended up being the high for Saturday. By dark Saturday, we were down to single digits
  24. Tindeuchen, If you can take the guys to Indianapolis, go to the Eiteljorg Museum. Call ahead and talk with the curator. They have awesome displays of Native regalia. I don't know if you are allowed to take pictures, but it's worth checking out.
  25. Tindeuchen, Where specifically are you located? The suggestion on contacting an area Tribal Council is good. Contact Jim Clippinger from the Tecumseh Council in Ohio. He is of Deleware decent and use to be the their Council's Lodge adviser. His sister, Rene Dennison from Ohio, is a Native Ethno-Artist, historian and geneologist who travels nationally teaching classes and running programs on Native culture, art and craftwork and working behind the scenes with Native issues. She would be an invaluable resource when it comes to regalia. If she can not help you, she will be able to put you
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