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Kudu

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  1. This might be for older kids, but see "HOW TO SPIN A ROPE: Lariat throwing, Rope Spinning, and Trick Cowboy Knots" http://www.inquiry.net/outdoor/spin_rope/index.htm and also Dan Beard's Lariat "how to" http://www.inquiry.net/outdoor/autumn/lariat.htm
  2. > As students of Scouting history we are bound to split hairs...therefore, > I will. I don't do much original historical research, although I do see some areas where such an examination of rare old primary materials is needed (B-P's writings on "The Religion of the Woods" and "Practical Christianity," for instance). My own interest lies in establishing traditional Scouting programs, either within the BSA (essentially a return to Hillcourt's methods) or as alternative Traditional Scouting programs based directly on Baden-Powell's own model. > They did not have to create
  3. If no one else has actually come out and said it, I think that a Patrol taking off on a high-adventure activity on the same weekend as a Camporee is the very definition of "Patrol Spirit." The message that I see being sent to the younger Scouts is that older boys have different interests, and are capable of undertaking more challenging adventures because of their size, strength, and (ideally) maturity. Another message is that as boys get older, girls, cars, and jobs take up an increasing amount of time. If despite all that, they are still camping as a Patrol, then you are doing someth
  4. > Are you sure, Kudu...the first SM Handbook (1913 - 1914), p. 18, states: > "Troops and Patrols. The Boy Scouts, themselves, are organized into > troops and their subdivisions, the patrols. A patrol consists of eight boys, > one of whom becomes the patrol leader." Yes, Troops were "divided into" Patrols, but I don't think you will find any public mention of B-P's Patrol System until 1923. An appendix titled the "Patrol Method" was bound into the later printings of the second SM Handbook (which I guess was about three years before Hillcourt's arrival, do you have any
  5. Miki writes: > Without BP, the Scouting that would have occurred would have been > in the non-militaristic, highly Americanized vision of Dan Beard. For those who are interested, the entire Dan Beard handbook for his pre-Scouting boys' organizations, "The Boy Pioneers: Sons of Daniel Boone," can be found at The Inquiry Net: http://www.inquiry.net/traditional/beard/pioneers If you check out their constitution, you can see that the program is truly "boy-lead," which may have presented problems for year-to-year continuity in local chapters (called "forts") :-) ht
  6. > I greatly resent your insinuations. I don't see why. I seem to be a lone voice in this forum. Everywhere you go for the rest of your life you will be celebrated by non-Unitarian-Universalists for your work in outflanking the UUA. Let me concede right here and now that the UUSO's program is a great victory for the religious right. In the coming years, as the BSA Handbooks and glossy religious awards posters feature "Living your Religion" as "the" Unitarian-Universalist religious award, even UU children and adults will be confused. I can only hope that Unitarian-Universalists
  7. Proud Eagle writes: > It sounds like BSA didn't like the old UUA stuff because it openly > disagreed with BSA policies. It would be nuts for a group to support > distribution of materials that do not support its policies.... > Finally, the false conflict between Catholicism and supporting our > armed forces is entirely contrived. It was an analogy, and all analogies are contrived. The idea is to make a strange situation seem more understandable by making a comparison to some imaginary situation. I clearly indicated that the contraction between the
  8. nldscout writes: > I am not a UU nor have any intention of becoming one. I would > however say that the debate about who in the UU church can > issue a religious medal would be better discussed among UU > church members on the UU list. The subject of the discussion is "Religious Emblem Approved for Unitarian Universalist Youth!" Fred Goodwin writes: > I agree with you [nldscout] ...So by analogy, there's no reason that > non-UUs should be precluded from discussing UU issues here, although > I agree there is little that we (non-UUs) can
  9. Fred Goodwin writes: > nuqDaq 'oH puchpa' 'e' I'm sorry, but I'm new to this forum and I can't follow Fred Goodwin's Klingon logic. Can someone translate? Hunt writes: > A couple of points here: Trevorum's original post makes it clear that > UUSO is not affiliated with UUA. He wrote that they were working "in coordination with Rev. Sinkford who has approved of our organization and its objectives." To me this implies that Sinkford and the UUA were at least AWARE (which they deny) of the UUSO and its objectives. There is no such approval of their organiz
  10. > [PRAY's] announcement was silent with respect to the relationship of > UUSA to UUA. So any speculation on that relationship amounts to > "talking by those not in the know". That was true until yesterday. > Why don't we wait for an official announcement from UUA before > speculating on that relationship? That was the official announcement from the UUA, Fred. 1. "Religion in Life" is the Unitarian-Universalist Association (UUA)'s Boy Scout religious award. 2. Religion in Life is administered by Jesse C Jaeger, the UUA's Youth Programs Directo
  11. PackSaddle writes: > However, it was to my surprise to realize that BSA placed their > restrictions on UUA scouts in order (is everyone ready for this?) > TO PROTECT THE BOYS. Riiight! Actually Lawrence Ray Smith's exact words were, "Unfortunately, this simply reopens the entire issue of using boys as a venue to air your differences with the policies of the Boy Scouts of America." So what does he do? His committee recognizes a group of Scouters who apparently disagree with the UUA's position regarding religious freedom. Its like a group of Iraq war supporter
  12. Trevorum wrote: > How do you other SMs handle the "Scout Spirit" requirement? Do you > have criteria (written or not) or go with gut instinct. This is always the > central point of my SM conferences for Star, Life and Eagle. We briefly > review the candidates completion of all the other requirements, but then > have a fairly intense discussion of the Scout Oath and Scout Law, what > they mean and how to live one's life that way. > What do you other SMs do? Most discussions of "Scout Spirit" advancement requirements revolve around how adults shoul
  13. I'm reminded of the adage "Those who talk don't know, and those who know, aren't talking." So, not knowing any of the facts, my best guess is that the UUSO simply caved on distributing the pamphlets "When Others Say God" and "In Support of All People" to Scouts working on their "Religion in Life" award. The BSA's Religious Relationships Committee had objected to these in their letter of May 7, 1999 rescinding approval of the UUA "Religion in Life" award. Meanwhile, here are some background information URLs for those who are interested: 1) A summary of a 2001 UUA General Asse
  14. Trevorum, Your post seems to imply that you are a member of the Unitarian Universalist Scouters Organization (UUSO). I was a member for a year, but I never received ANY information about the group. Indeed, the only confirmation that I had ever been a member (or that the organization even existed) was a renewal letter telling me that my "membership" had expired! I have some specific questions: 1. Was the UUSO created as a result of an agreement between the UUA and the BSA? 2. Does the UUA have an officially designated representative on the UUSO? 3. In its interactions
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