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Wow, they took that out of commission quick. Hopefully they'll turn it back on soon.

"What could it hurt for you to put personal opinion aside and just work through it logically and see where it leads us?" ROFLMAO Reminds me of a skit I saw on TV... Guy acts like he's dialing a phone, using his hand as a handset... "Hello Kettle, this is the Pot. Your Black!" This has turned out the be the most hillarious thread.

If they were going to introduce it, it would probably be at the National Meeting in San Diego this May or at the All Hands Meeting in August. I'm hoping it's going to be in San Diego, I'm going to that one...

On the two courses I've staffed so far, we show our totems for every presentation we have, we have a totem next to our pictures in our materials and we have a tradition that the patrols afix thier totems to the appropriate patrol boxes on the second weekend. Of course I didn't have any of this on the course i took in 2003, so I had to "fix" my totem when I needed to actually use it.

"Boy Scout Skills for Scoutmasters" 1983 Philmont Scout Ranch... #1, because it was at Philmont, the holy grail of BSA, and #2, This was the first long term training I'd ever taken and the experience of bonding with other like minded scouters while in an immersion environment was irreplaceable. Being a 22 year old "kid" at the time gave me a certain skew on the subject. I was able to beat the heck out of the "old timers", some as old as 40 , at scoutcraft, and I learned a lot from them in terms of dealing with youth from an adult perspective... Wow, this takes me back. I'm going

Ok, I'm going to put on my bragging hat: One of my patrols has won "honor patrol" 3 of the last 5 years. Not the same patrol each time, but typically our regular scout patrol of 13 year olds, 1st class or better... We don't host the Camporee ever, we do lots of other things in the district. We do take advantage of the information put out by the Camporee Chief prior to the event and we make sure the boys are aware of what the competitions are so they can prepare. Our district camporees have been a mixed bag of mediocre to excellent in the past 7 years. The first camporee I attend

Wow Lisabob, lots of good questions. We have an experienced scout patrol, which could be argued to be a venture patrol. The boys are generally 14+ and experienced campers and hikers. We plan grander high adventure trips for them during the summer and allow them to do more difficult monthly hikes and outings. Since most high adventure activities in Scouting are limited to those 14 years and older, that seems to be the typical age limit. That's not to say that a 13 year old can't do a 50 mile backpack, it would depend on the boy's condition and mindset, but generally speaking 14 y

The patch has the 100th Anniversary Logo incorporated into it. I think it's cool that a youth member of a Scout Troop came up with it. I'm proud of it personally and I'll wear it with some pride, as if I had anything to do with it.

The application for the Silver Beaver has some pretty good guidelines, and I'm pretty sure the local councils have to follow that list, but I may be wrong. The two councils I've been involved with followed it to my knowledge. The current council does a good job of selection. All nominations are screened and formatted to be similar in appearance. Each is numbered and names or identifying info are removed. Identifying info may be "..served as District Chairman in Atlanta, Santa Fe, Tupelo", so it would be changed to "..served as District Chairman". The committee gets the forms and

Traditionally we do this for our Eagles. Troop purchases: Eagle presentation kit (medal, pins, first patch) Eagle embroidered neckerchief Eagle neckerchief slide Campaign Hat (cool tradition, even if they only wear it once) if they have a hat already, then we have a jewler make a special tie bar Brass nameplate with Eagle Board of Review date on it for CO perpetual plaque Wooden Eagle toll painted w/ brass nameplate w/ EBoR date to hang on wall of Scout House The Eagle keeps almost everything, but the Plaque and the wooden Eagle that hangs on our wall. We have

Thanks, that looks great. My council starts interviewing perspective adults for contingent leaders next month. I've got my fingers crossed.

As I said before, it would be really sad if a boy read this and wrongly believed that he had violated some rule by wearing his uniform to perform his project. It just isn't so. This is exactly my feeling as well. I believe many adults come here as a sort of online commisioner's corner to get answers. They don't necessarily post, but they believe what they read. I personally use a lot of the info I get here in the jobs I've got in Scouting. I think we forum users have a responsibility to post facts when we "quote" regulations and rules. I truely believe that misrepresenting somet

When I took the course in '03, our TG's took our tickets to see the ASM-TG wizzard. She approved/denied tickets. The TGs were our ticket counselors When I served last year on staff, TG's did the same thing and the wizzard had his hand on every decision...and wasted a lot of time. Us TGs are the counselors This year on course our TG's do everything, and they've spend a weekend together to figure it all out in advance. The ticket won't hurt as much as it once did I hope. The TGs are also the counselors on this course.

"Outside the Sphere of Scouting" means that the project cannot benefit the BSA, the local council, the unit...that's it. " No it does not. That is a separate issue addressed in a separate BSA policy. Yes, I'm afraid it does. You are putting together bits and pieces of several rules and guidelines in order to make a rule that doesn't exist. You're adding additional requirements and burden on the backs of the scouts you serve. Reason this through. Is the Eagle project done as a unit, district, or council event? No. it is done as an independent and indiviudal activity for an ouside organiz

Eammon, My old council sounded a lot like what you're going through. Many people asked to sit on the Executive Board and never showing up. The write their check during the year and that's the end of their commitment. We had so much of this going on some of the Executive Committee (VP's, DC's, and Key 3) would joke about it openly. We lost our council ultimately. It was a sad day when that happened. Now we're a part of a much bigger and better organization. Our current Executive Board meets bi monthly and the Executive Committee meets monthly. Any Executive Board member

Wow, lots of bad info here. "Outside the Sphere of Scouting" means that the project cannot benefit the BSA, the local council, the unit...that's it. The project is formulated, planned and generally carried out by scouts (but does not have to be). It has nothing to do with uniforming and liability. " A Scout unit that volunteers to help with the poroject as a troop activity would be covered by their regular BSA accident and liability insurance BUT ONLY for the members of that unit that participated. That protection does not extrend to any person or property related to the project,

Eammon, if your friend staffed WB21C in 2005, wouldn't he be "elegible" under the new rules? Part of being on staff is the experience of living the presentations and materials again, in a different light. I believe his training would be acceptable under the circumstances and within the requirements. Ultimately that would remain the decision of your Council NSJ Committee, but he certainly has at least one leg to stand on.

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I think this whole thread has gotten hilarious quite frankly. Here's my take. Scouts shouldn't wear field uniforms (very pricey) to service projects. It's nice to see them in activity uniforms (troop t-shirts) during these. They certainly don't have to and are not required to at any rate in our unit. Eagle candidates working the project are expected to lead the project and to jump in and help when needed. Don't expect anyone to do a job you wouldn't be willing to do yourself. Sometimes a task demonstrated by the perceived leader gets better attention and respect than an or

District Advancement Committees are a great idea in a centralized management style, but when you "decentralize" the overall management of this segment of Scouting, it quickly becomes a competition of which district has the most "legitimate" Eagles around. Case in point is my Council. We've got 10 districts, soon to grow again. The Council management style was to leave the districts to themselves due to the vast area of the Council. This caused several good ideas to become rooted and now some districts have ridiculous extra provisions for Eagle projects, Boards of Review, and the like.

Our troop has a standard script for the ceremony. The Eagle and his family plug in the names of the folks they want to present certain portions of the ceremony. They do not have to follow the ceremony, they don't have to have a ceremony, we can just present it at a regular CoH. I have one boy, he'll be 20 soon enough, who hasn't had a Court of Honor. Both of his parents were ill (still are) and he needed help. I got a group of folks together to make it happen. 3 weeks before his ceremony he called and cancelled it due to his parents health. He never rescheduled, even after numerou

At our recent Council Dinner, we had 19 Silver Beavers (I was one of them, it was toooo cooool). We were interviewed on camera a month prior by a professional video crew, and they showed it during our ceremony. That was kind of a WOW moment. In the two council's I've been involved with, we've always notified recipients of the Silver Beaver, but never the DAM. We make it the nominators responsibility to get the DAM Recipient to the dinner, or we get sneeky with the spouse (in a good way). It's really fun when it's a couple, then you have to make sure they have a son in the progra

At our recent Council Dinner, we had 19 Silver Beavers (I was one of them, it was toooo cooool). We were interviewed on camera a month prior by a professional video crew, and they showed it during our ceremony. That was kind of a WOW moment. In the two council's I've been involved with, we've always notified recipients of the Silver Beaver, but never the DAM. We make it the nominators responsibility to get the DAM Recipient to the dinner, or we get sneeky with the spouse (in a good way). It's really fun when it's a couple, then you have to make sure they have a son in the progra

I'm a Bear, and a good 'ol Bear too. Matt WE4-51-2-03 WE4-45-1-07&08 staffer.

Congratulations d.a.m. By the looks of things with your new user name, you've accepted the challenge of being a DAM recipient. The award is supposed to be a surprise at the District Dinner. When I received my award I wasn't as surprised as I should have been. I had made my weekly trip to our Council Service Center. I saw my wife there talking with some folks. My wife volunteered me to be Asst Cubmaster 11 years ago and pretty much hadn't stepped foot into the service center since, so I know something was up. LOL Like you I was, and still am, very humbled by the experience.