johndaigler

Eagle309, Sorry your wife and family and you have had to go through this. Certainly, there is no need to consider resigning but I agree being open about it is important. There shouldn't be any shame or embarassment -- if you're feeling any, please talk to someone about it: a counselor, a religious, whomever you trust. By sharing your story, you'll help others in similar or comparable situations. Thank you. Be well, jd

In rereading my post above - I'm afraid some might read my vague Watergate comment to be disrespectful to Sen. Irvin. Believe me that is not my intent. Rightly or wrongly, I see him as one of the heroes of that horrific situation. Watergate on the whole, however, taught me to question authority and distrust power. jd BTW, vmpost, respectfully, IMHO, being stripey or purple is as minimizing as any other label, colored or otherwise. Just being VMPOST is more than enough -- it's not your color, but your ideas, that matter. Scoutnut, Don't you think that equating talk radio and

Lisabob, if it's OK with you, I'd like to address some of your ideas from another thread. You consistenly demonstrate your ability to discuss ideas respectfully, I'd like to try my hand at it. So, on that note: Here are some things that I believe as a liberal. Personally I think these beliefs fit rather well with the ideals embodied in the Boy Scout Oath and Law. If you don't think so, by all means, let's talk about it. **I believe in standing up for freedom of speech, of the press, of assembly, and of petition, both when in support of and when criticizing those in power. And just b

Hillis, Great thread! Thanks! Many of these ideas are appropriate or easily modified for beginning teamwork with Cubs, as well. jd

I'd love to see the boys pull it off successfully. Fgoodwin and vmpost make good points. Won't it be difficult to find a movie that's appropriate and entertaining for the whole age range? Monty Python's Holy Grail still makes me laugh -- but, appropriate for 11 yr. olds???? I'm not sure. Will you need parental permission? Copyright permissions? Have fun, jd

WELCOME, bourne! Good thoughts. In my experience, the only way to do this is is to educate and prepare. Start by supervising and guiding. Allow apprenticeship of decisions. Occasionally allow failure but always correct. Allow them to solo when ready. Your post makes a lot of sense; but IMHO, there's never one "only way to . . ." I think this is the key -- and probably where all the grey comes in. Each child and parent are ready for different amounts of "educate, prepare, supervising, guiding, apprenticeship, . . ." at any given point. By sharing our diverse ideas here, we (p

But both sides, especially many L's in academia and education, don't always live by this credo. You can believe what you want, but this question has an answer that is objective and independent of whatever you believe. The mistake here is . . . Yah yah. Da biggest difference between your Blue-L and the Red-C's is this repeated notion that "government" is something separate, independent, and more powerful than "neighbor." Yah, how'd I do there, Red? All I'm suggesting is that Beavah should speak for himself about himself. When we feel we can define others and

It all goes round and round -- so now we're not even "Conservatives" or "Liberals". Now, let's chunk it even more like kindergarden -- now we're red C's, and blue L's, and pink H's, and green E's and ... perhaps we should wear our little tags pinned to our shirts to make it easy for the grownups to identify us. Beavah, what could be a good conversation between you, lisabob and others will slowly slip into colored letter mud, because you couldn't stand on your own feet with your own ideas. You had to jump behind the giant fuzzy team mascot and stick your tongue out at her. (Yah, how'd I

Way to go BSA!!!! Only 4 copyright owners yet to permit my last 8 songs (out of 28). This whole thing has been a bit tedious, but not really difficult. Most artists/publishers have been very supportive when they hear it's for the kids, I'm not making any money --- and the deal clincher seems to be the fact that I'm actually bothering to ask permission!!! jd

I'm with Lisabob, I have to be careful when I park my car - I've a tendency to be 3 feet to the right!! Can't ever support Pittsburgh -- not that they won't win -- it'll just be another sad Superbowl Sunday for me . . . jd

Dear jg0017, WELCOME! Why the search? jd

BSAChaplain -- good luck with the ticket!!! It's probably too far off topic for your book, but it would be nice if there was a way to bring the "Chaplainship" to Units without, and who are ignorant of the value, or choose not to have a chaplain. How about "Unit Chaplain as Steward" >> focusing on how the Chaplain role can be future looking and increase/ensure the Unit's experience even beyond his/her tenure. jd

Chip, I'm sure you didn't intend insult but, being a Cub Scouter, I am concerned with your last sentence. I've read and understand all the above points about the Unit Leader getting to know the boys and their names. The importance is unmistakable, but I think the CM isn't the correct comparison to the SM. In Cubs, the foremost "adult association" contact is the DL. The CM is, as Trevorum (I think) said, "a layer away". I think it's a hard working SM that gets to know his Scouts the way a DL gets to know his Den and their families. The "quality" of the boy's Cub experience is closely

I assume Kahuna is speaking with knowledge. If so, this is disappointing -- embarassing for SF, actually. jd

Sir Scoutalot, my standard test for what my kids might get into without "preventative parenting" is to remember what I did, or might have done when I was their age. I gave my Mom grey hair and drove my dad completely bald!! -- And, too be honest, I was a good kid. But I was a kid, and capable of more harm to myself (and others) than I had a clue. Read any of the stats about kids, behavior and danger -- you'll end up getting brochures for safe places to lock your kids away until they're grown up!! IMHO, we go way overboard when we consider a child's privacy, or peer reputation as mor

I guess It's time to look elsewhere for that missing "rimshot"!!!(This message has been edited by johndaigler)

The ones who don't wear boxers are BRIEFcases!!

When you're at work, I think they're called SUITcases!

Off with their Head, er, Cases!!!

I am surprised and dismayed at SF's response to the battleship -- doesn't SF have a large historical significance to the Navy? That being said, FScouter's words should give us a few second thoughts. . . Does this decision show a changed attitude since the last retiree was harbored in SF? Maybe a Battleship is a redundancy in SF's honoring of the Navy? Maybe the city's budget is in the red and a Battleship clogs up some income producing space? I don't know, and the city's choice DOES seem "Kooky" on its face, but maybe there's actually some thought behind their "kookiness"?? . . . ??

Leaders can wear nameplates (CSLB pg.12-9), but I can't find a prohibition against Cubs wearing nameplates. Does anyone have a reason for or against??

Peter Himmelman has also given his permission -- He's the second Scout I've met through this process. I'm getting closer! jd Besides Disney and BSA, I can tell my biggest issue is going to be the obscure CDs that are older music and/or compilations of older stuff. I may have to develop a work-around for those.

Ed, the Church's problem was pedophile priests, not homosexual priests. If a Unit followed G2SS, and I knew the Leadership (a personal requirement even without homosexual Scouters involved) I WOULD let my son camp with the Unit. Heterosexuality isn't a focal point of a campout - why would I believe (worry) that homosexuality was? You draw a picture of a "group of homosexuals" as if that's a scary thing. Very few Units would likely be overwhelmingly homosexual given population percentages. I suppose a Unit might actually develop into a predominantly homosexual group due to person

Hey, Trev, good post. Actually, it's not "a different perspective"- I agree with it completely. It's one of my main reasons for fighting "sound-bite knowledge" and "minimizing labels". I'm familiar with your point - thanks (?) to over a decade of teaching, and almost as long as a school administrator. The brain loves to chunk data - it's an efficient and effective technique for categorizing and storing information: socks in one drawer; t-shirts in another. The problem, of course, is using a filing system with only big boxes. That makes it difficult for the brain to make judgements an

So far so good ... Barefoot Books, Twin Sisters, and Bill Harley (Round River Records) have all given permission!! jd